Selling guns for children

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Oneal

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Mr Wiggley wrote:
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Do you really believe people are that corrupt? Really?
Don't play naive. As mentioned, some sick bastards are capable of INTENTIONALLY "snipping", literally severing the spinal cord of a just-born infant, then stuffing them in a shoe box and into a freezer - and the left continues to support the act of abortion that allowed this to happen.

Yet when an ACCIDENT happens and a child is shot, liberals throw their hands in the air and scream something needs to be done - or as that idiot Stevie often screeches, "heads need to roll!".

On one hand you sit back and allow the slaughter of innocent infants for political reasons claiming it's the right of women to be allowed to murder their babies and anyone who says differently hates women. On the other, you feign such compassionate sorrow over an accident that kills a child, coincidentally by the latest liberal political pet project.

Really - liberalism breeds hypocrisy, corruption and lack of morals.

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free thinker wrote:
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Not at all, I'd just prefer to expect the worst from strangers and be pleasantly surprised than naively expect that all have nothing but good intentions and be disappointed to discover otherwise...or worse.
I tend to be a realist. Personally, I think those pollyanna rose colored glasses you seem to be wearing keep you from seeing reality.
Yep...like I said...you only look for the bad in others.
What a lousy way to live your life...

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Oneal wrote:
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Don't play naive. As mentioned, some sick bastards are capable of INTENTIONALLY "snipping", literally severing the spinal cord of a just-born infant, then stuffing them in a shoe box and into a freezer - and the left continues to support the act of abortion that allowed this to happen.
Yet when an ACCIDENT happens and a child is shot, liberals throw their hands in the air and scream something needs to be done - or as that idiot Stevie often screeches, "heads need to roll!".
On one hand you sit back and allow the slaughter of innocent infants for political reasons claiming it's the right of women to be allowed to murder their babies and anyone who says differently hates women. On the other, you feign such compassionate sorrow over an accident that kills a child, coincidentally by the latest liberal political pet project.
Really - liberalism breeds hypocrisy, corruption and lack of morals.
No where did I defend the actions of any abortion clinic...no where.
You need to make things up so you can get pissed off...it's very common amoungst you who need to label others as "liberal".

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free thinker wrote:
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LOL...sure and you just couldn't resist playing along with dragging it off topic.
It's a pretty big stretch to go from kids with guns to Catholics and abortion/birth control but I can see how the liberal mind might confuse the two topics.
You just can't resist telling someone what their intentions were or making things up to bolster your point.
I asked honest questions and I did NOT bring abortion into this topic AND I have every right to ask those questions.

Fail fail fail...

You just can't win today huh??

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Not sure how to tackle this being a gun owner and have always been around them even as a child I guess I was taught not to touch and that guns are dangerous, just like matches and disposable lighters which cause the deaths of a lot of children and we don't hear for bans or registration of these things, I mean "they" cant ban fire, or can "they"?

A life is a life and no matter how a life is taken is a tragedy either by fire, gun, or abortion. I have all the sympathy and empathy for women who have been raped and become pregnant I cant begin to imagine what any of them experience.

I am one who believes that our souls were created when the universe was created and that when there is conception that soul has chosen to come fourth in human form and to kill that life affects that soul so much that the next time it comes fourth and is born it is a damaged soul and who knows maybe these damaged souls were the aborted souls of people like Jeffery Dahmer or Ted Bundy, no one can know but it is possible.
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Shoeless Eluder wrote:
Not sure how to tackle this being a gun owner and have always been around them even as a child I guess I was taught not to touch and that guns are dangerous, just like matches and disposable lighters which cause the deaths of a lot of children and we don't hear for bans or registration of these things, I mean "they" cant ban fire, or can "they"?
A life is a life and no matter how a life is taken is a tragedy either by fire, gun, or abortion. I have all the sympathy and empathy for women who have been raped and become pregnant I cant begin to imagine what any of them experience.
I am one who believes that our souls were created when the universe was created and that when there is conception that soul has chosen to come fourth in human form and to kill that life affects that soul so much that the next time it comes fourth and is born it is a damaged soul and who knows maybe these damaged souls were the aborted souls of people like Jeffery Dahmer or Ted Bundy, no one can know but it is possible.
If you believe in a soul and life beginning at conception then don't have an abortion. Don't expect everyone to believe what you do though and make them pay for your beliefs. Contraception fails and sometimes people aren't careful, whatever the reason why would you want to bring in another unwanted child into this crazy, overpopulated world? If someone believes life begins at birth or that all we are is an accident of science, then why should they not have access to an abortion?
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Shoeless Eluder wrote:
Not sure how to tackle this being a gun owner and have always been around them even as a child I guess I was taught not to touch and that guns are dangerous, just like matches and disposable lighters which cause the deaths of a lot of children and we don't hear for bans or registration of these things, I mean "they" cant ban fire, or can "they"?
A life is a life and no matter how a life is taken is a tragedy either by fire, gun, or abortion. I have all the sympathy and empathy for women who have been raped and become pregnant I cant begin to imagine what any of them experience.
I am one who believes that our souls were created when the universe was created and that when there is conception that soul has chosen to come fourth in human form and to kill that life affects that soul so much that the next time it comes fourth and is born it is a damaged soul and who knows maybe these damaged souls were the aborted souls of people like Jeffery Dahmer or Ted Bundy, no one can know but it is possible.
Don't forget swimming pools...... Water is evil....... Progressives really don't care what happens to kids..... Just getting their way is all....

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Try Again wrote:
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If you believe in a soul and life beginning at conception then don't have an abortion. Don't expect everyone to believe what you do though and make them pay for your beliefs. Contraception fails and sometimes people aren't careful, whatever the reason why would you want to bring in another unwanted child into this crazy, overpopulated world? If someone believes life begins at birth or that all we are is an accident of science, then why should they not have access to an abortion?
I don't expect people to believe what I do that's my point. I just want people to think before they act on emotion. Of course I cant have an abortion being male and like I wrote cant even imagine what women who have been raped go through, also because I am a male. I leave the decision to them but also the guilt they may have after that decision, it can affect them even if they were raped.

Abortion should never be used as a form of birth control and I guess my solution for that is don't have sex. I know that is a ludicrous thought but it does work.

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Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>Don't forget swimming pools...... Water is evil....... Progressives really don't care what happens to kids..... Just getting their way is all....
Yep lots of children drowning and again the reason for most is inattentive parents just a serious as accidental shootings and fires..

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Try Again wrote:
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If you believe in a soul and life beginning at conception then don't have an abortion. Don't expect everyone to believe what you do though and make them pay for your beliefs. Contraception fails and sometimes people aren't careful, whatever the reason why would you want to bring in another unwanted child into this crazy, overpopulated world? If someone believes life begins at birth or that all we are is an accident of science, then why should they not have access to an abortion?
You mean to tell me you don't believe you have a soul.

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There are absolutes when it comes to children and guns.
I believe this to be a parental failure to teach their children those absolutes...sad story here...
http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/03/news/companie...
I happen to own one of these Crickett 22s it is a very safe firearm. But beyond that I got my first gun when I was eight years old an H&R 410 break action shotgun I still have it. I think if you would look back through history lets say the last eighty years or so guns were marketed towards children it was a sign of maturity to have your own gun and the responsibilities that came along with it. Yes I was out in the field at eight with my dad and two of my brothers hunting pheasants and rabbits with my own gun. I am sure that this would be shocking to the sensibilities to some of our nanny state politicians who think a child is up to 26 years old.

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Shoeless Eluder wrote:
<quoted text>I happen to own one of these Crickett 22s it is a very safe firearm. But beyond that I got my first gun when I was eight years old an H&R 410 break action shotgun I still have it. I think if you would look back through history lets say the last eighty years or so guns were marketed towards children it was a sign of maturity to have your own gun and the responsibilities that came along with it. Yes I was out in the field at eight with my dad and two of my brothers hunting pheasants and rabbits with my own gun. I am sure that this would be shocking to the sensibilities to some of our nanny state politicians who think a child is up to 26 years old.
My background with guns is very similar to your's.
My worst experience with guns was basic training. Others whom were also in the military may have had similar experiences. The first day at the live shooting range was scary. When they gave live ammo to the recruits who had never been around guns it was duck and cover time. One actually was shaking so badly he fired his weapon before the order was given to begin firing...yikes!!!
My purpose in starting this thread was to open a discussion on parents allowing their children to have guns and what training should the parents have before being allowed to give guns to their children.

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My background with guns is very similar to your's.
My worst experience with guns was basic training. Others whom were also in the military may have had similar experiences. The first day at the live shooting range was scary. When they gave live ammo to the recruits who had never been around guns it was duck and cover time. One actually was shaking so badly he fired his weapon before the order was given to begin firing...yikes!!!
My purpose in starting this thread was to open a discussion on parents allowing their children to have guns and what training should the parents have before being allowed to give guns to their children.
Yep I get it. Hard to imagine grown men being afraid of guns or know how to use them, sorry for naivete and my assuming. To think I was five years old when I actually started shooting with supervision of course only 22s but I do remember the excitement and anticipation when I got the chance to shoot my dads .270 deer rifle.
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Not sure what you mean here Batch...teenagers of any background have the same urges. Why deprive them of the capability and resources to prevent an unwanted pregnancy or transmition of diseases?
Adults also have the same urges. Why make them feel guilty about using proper birth control because of their religion??
Sure, let's just keep encouraging them to hump everything in sight like the neighborhood stray rather than teaching them that the only 100% safe sex is no sex. I thought the difference between animals and humans is the ability to engage in higher thinking rather than just following wherever their dick leads them.'Safe' sex these days is an oxymoron. 1 in 4 girls has a STD and it's not for lack of access to birth control (the Pill provides no protection here). There's worse things out there these days than AIDS and kids (or even college students) in real life practice, don't use birth control correctly nearly 50% of the time http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/research/condo... . Tell me, is giving in to your 'urges' really worth dying over?
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/05/05/doct...

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vox veritatis wrote:
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Sure, let's just keep encouraging them to hump everything in sight like the neighborhood stray rather than teaching them that the only 100% safe sex is no sex. I thought the difference between animals and humans is the ability to engage in higher thinking rather than just following wherever their dick leads them.'Safe' sex these days is an oxymoron. 1 in 4 girls has a STD and it's not for lack of access to birth control (the Pill provides no protection here). There's worse things out there these days than AIDS and kids (or even college students) in real life practice, don't use birth control correctly nearly 50% of the time http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/research/condo... . Tell me, is giving in to your 'urges' really worth dying over?
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/05/05/doct...
When you provide the formula for 100% safe sex participation by everyone let us all know.
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Mr Wiggley wrote:
When you provide the formula for 100% safe sex participation by everyone let us all know.
Perhaps the real threat of dying might do it but then again, low intelligence participants will probably still want to hump every female they can find who is willing. There's always that ideation of 'it won't happen to me' among that age group. After all, they're the age group most prone to drinking and driving, texting and driving and taking other risks.
Seems your POV is that because not everyone is willing to participate in 'safe sex' or abstain, you're good with letting 25% of our girls contract diseases that may leave them permanently sterile or dead and the same for our young men, all the while claiming they're not capable of abstaining, yet 40% of graduating teens are still virgins. How can that be since they're not capable of resisting that 'urge' according to you?
In my experience, kids...and teens...will live up or DOWN to whatever standard is set for them and we've done a very poor job of setting the standards for this generation to their harm.
I wonder of the people dying from antiobiotic resistant gonorrhea are dying happy and think it was worth it?
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When you provide the formula for 100% safe sex participation by everyone let us all know.
When you come up with a formula for 100% failsafe protection, make sure you let the CDC know. In the mean time, I have to wonder why our government, who cares oh, so much, for the citizens of this country haven't sounded the alarm about this new threat? They seem to know about if if they're trying to find funding to research an antibiotic that it's not resistant to. Guess they prefer letting people die over suggesting that maybe they try abstaining, much like you.
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Here's another one - Boy, 8, accidentally kills self at a gun show.

Child was firing an Uzi submachine gun under adult supervision at a fair. I hope they charged the dumb SOB with at least child endangerment and abuse, if not homicide. Just how much more stupid can these people be?

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/27399337/ns/us_news...
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Just think of the delight the 8-year old boy experienced just as he blew his brains out. After all, A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, needs 8 year olds, even dead ones.

If only something similar would happen to Wayne Looney Tunes. That day can't come soon enough.
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pipedream wrote:
Just think of the delight the 8-year old boy experienced just as he blew his brains out. After all, A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, needs 8 year olds, even dead ones.

If only something similar would happen to Wayne Looney Tunes. That day can't come soon enough.
Ya, after that 8 year old smoked a big fat one. It is hard to think realistically while in fantasy land.

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