Phil

Oxford, MI

#81 Sep 4, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>It wasn't...but sticking our noses into other culture's business should be a lesson...STAY OUT of their internal conflicts.
Hey pot head I agree with you! We should also stop paying these countries to hate us. They sure as hell don't like us no matter how much money, aid, and food we throw at them. Hell they hate us even when our children fight and die for them. Piss on them is my veiw

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#82 Sep 4, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
It wasn't...but sticking our noses into other culture's business should be a lesson...STAY OUT of their internal conflicts.
We, as the great power that America is, honorably promoting and signing the Chemical Weapons Ban Convention.....ratified by our Congress....are occasionally obligated to do the right thing....and enforce that ban....

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#83 Sep 4, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> We, as the great power that America is, honorably promoting and signing the Chemical Weapons Ban Convention.....ratified by our Congress....are occasionally obligated to do the right thing....and enforce that ban....
I agree to a point. Don't you wonder why none of the other country's that also signed that same chemical weapons ban are willing to help?
Also, chemical weapons were known to have been used some 18 months ago, why was no action taken then?
So far, over 11,000 deaths over there, caused by BOTH sides in the civil war over there.
It's terrible what is going on over there, but it is none of our business, we need to stay out of it.
We are not the "police" of the world.
The "opposition" that we would be helping out, is al-Qaeda, and Hezbollah, who are known to hate the USA, why should we help our enemies?
It seems right now, that the only reason Mr. Obama has for attacking Syria, is to save face after his "Red Line" statement.
The rest of the word see's what a buffoon he is, and now he wants to enter yet another war just to save face.
He has NO plan whatsoever. Just to shoot some tomahawk missiles over there and that's it.
I wonder how many innocent children might be killed by them?
I remember back in the 2008 election, when John Kerry, and Hillary Clinton who both voted in favour of the Iraq war, changed their minds later. Are they going to do the same thing this time?
Bombing Syria, is only going to cause more death's of innocent civilians.
We need to stay out of it. Even if it means Mr Obama has to eat crow over his red line comment.
Sassy

Grand Rapids, MI

#84 Sep 4, 2013
Personally, I truly believe that the other countries are worried that the US is lying just like Iraq and the WMD's. Russia and China both signed the UN agreement about chemical weapons. However, because we all were lied to before, everyone is afraid to trust. If Iraq never happened, maybe there would not be so much negativity. Also the problem lays in whom is actually using the chemical weapons. Is it the government of Syria? Or is it the rebels? I think everyone wants proof of that too. Yet, if it is true that the Syrian government is responsible we are screwed as far as acting on our integrity. But, if we do act and it is the rebels, we are screwed too. Then again, if we wait to long, we could be screwed again. So as the saying goes. Damned if we do, damned if we don't.
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> We, as the great power that America is, honorably promoting and signing the Chemical Weapons Ban Convention.....ratified by our Congress....are occasionally obligated to do the right thing....and enforce that ban....
James

Grand Rapids, MI

#85 Sep 4, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> We, as the great power that America is, honorably promoting and signing the Chemical Weapons Ban Convention.....ratified by our Congress....are occasionally obligated to do the right thing....and enforce that ban....
Based on that reasoning, one might say that the Iraq war was justifiable. Saddam had used chemical weapons on the Kurds.
X Class

Grand Rapids, MI

#86 Sep 4, 2013
Yep, GWB, Cheney and the other chicken hawk republicans have forever ruined our ability to strike against at an out of control regime. Now the rest of the world gets to deal with dictators who kill their own people with no fear of anything happening. Thanks W, Cheney and Rumsfeld! May you forever rot in the pits of hell!
Really

Wyoming, MI

#87 Sep 5, 2013
X Class wrote:
Yep, GWB, Cheney and the other chicken hawk republicans have forever ruined our ability to strike against at an out of control regime. Now the rest of the world gets to deal with dictators who kill their own people with no fear of anything happening. Thanks W, Cheney and Rumsfeld! May you forever rot in the pits of hell!
And the immmature teenagers of the world continue their rants. perhaps you should look at Go blue's sentiments that it is our "moral" duty to strike Syria this time. Of course, Saddam used chemical weapons on the Kurds, but that was NOT our "moral" duty to do anything about. And the dog and pony, blame everyone else teenage mentality just rolls on and on and on.
Sassy

Grand Rapids, MI

#88 Sep 5, 2013
We did do something about the Kurds under Bush 1.
Really wrote:
<quoted text>And the immmature teenagers of the world continue their rants. perhaps you should look at Go blue's sentiments that it is our "moral" duty to strike Syria this time. Of course, Saddam used chemical weapons on the Kurds, but that was NOT our "moral" duty to do anything about. And the dog and pony, blame everyone else teenage mentality just rolls on and on and on.
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#89 Sep 5, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
We, as the great power that America is, honorably promoting and signing the Chemical Weapons Ban Convention.....ratified by our Congress....are occasionally obligated to do the right thing....and enforce that ban....
Funny...you weren't saying that about Iraq and we know that they gassed the Kurds.
Really

Wyoming, MI

#90 Sep 5, 2013
Sassy wrote:
We did do something about the Kurds under Bush 1.
<quoted text>
He also gassed them a second time as well I believe Sassy. I could be incorrect. In any case, the fact that the media and the left is behind Obama 100% while still blaming Bush is ridiculous, IMO
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#91 Sep 5, 2013
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>Back in the day Kerry protested the war by pitching medals over the White House fence. He did not like the war even though VC would come into a village visited by Special Forces to inoculate children in need. The VC cut their arm off that got the shot...... Kerry is a waffle....... Yet Bobbie likes the involvement in Syria..... Poor uneducated fool.......
WTF are you blubbering about?

My only comments on here have regarded the comical antics of the republican neo-cons running in all directions because the president has requested that they perform their constitutional duties.

It's funny how you baggers whined and howled about the president usurping congress' power, and are now doing the same when he is giving them the chance is hilarious!

Try to limit your replies to the few times that you are actually sober enough to think about what you're typing!
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#92 Sep 5, 2013
Gville Jim wrote:
<quoted text>I agree to a point. Don't you wonder why none of the other country's that also signed that same chemical weapons ban are willing to help?
Also, chemical weapons were known to have been used some 18 months ago, why was no action taken then?
So far, over 11,000 deaths over there, caused by BOTH sides in the civil war over there.
It's terrible what is going on over there, but it is none of our business, we need to stay out of it.
We are not the "police" of the world.
The "opposition" that we would be helping out, is al-Qaeda, and Hezbollah, who are known to hate the USA, why should we help our enemies?
It seems right now, that the only reason Mr. Obama has for attacking Syria, is to save face after his "Red Line" statement.
The rest of the word see's what a buffoon he is, and now he wants to enter yet another war just to save face.
He has NO plan whatsoever. Just to shoot some tomahawk missiles over there and that's it.
I wonder how many innocent children might be killed by them?
I remember back in the 2008 election, when John Kerry, and Hillary Clinton who both voted in favour of the Iraq war, changed their minds later. Are they going to do the same thing this time?
Bombing Syria, is only going to cause more death's of innocent civilians.
We need to stay out of it. Even if it means Mr Obama has to eat crow over his red line comment.
Has your cousin the marine gotten orders to prepare for the invasion of Syria too?
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#93 Sep 5, 2013
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>

My only comments on here have regarded the comical antics of the republican neo-cons
OK, so you're saying your comments are just inane insults and not worthy of anyone's consideration.
Got it, Putterboy, not that there was any question.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#94 Sep 5, 2013
Sassy wrote:
Personally, I truly believe that the other countries are worried that the US is lying just like Iraq and the WMD's. Russia and China both signed the UN agreement about chemical weapons. However, because we all were lied to before, everyone is afraid to trust. If Iraq never happened, maybe there would not be so much negativity. Also the problem lays in whom is actually using the chemical weapons. Is it the government of Syria? Or is it the rebels? I think everyone wants proof of that too. Yet, if it is true that the Syrian government is responsible we are screwed as far as acting on our integrity. But, if we do act and it is the rebels, we are screwed too. Then again, if we wait to long, we could be screwed again. So as the saying goes. Damned if we do, damned if we don't.
<quoted text>
I believe that UK's Parliament's vote was heavily influenced by how they feel about being oversold on Iraq by us.....I can't think of a better way to re-establish trust, than to help the helpless from slaughter....I think, if we were to ignore it, we should likely pass on the lead, on the world stage.....Then, we are just a shell of ourselves....faded glory....

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#95 Sep 5, 2013
vox veritatis wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny...you weren't saying that about Iraq and we know that they gassed the Kurds.
To be honest with you, you have zero idea what i thought of Iraq in 2002....neither do i.....i was too busy fighting off sharks in business, and trying to make as much money as possible....lol...
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#96 Sep 5, 2013
Oneal wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, so you're saying your comments are just inane insults and not worthy of anyone's consideration.
Got it, Putterboy, not that there was any question.
Baggers such as yourself deserve all of the insults you get.

You've been bellowing about hypocrisy for the last 5 years because this president is doing exactly what your party has been doing for the previous eight.

You didn't see any problem with fake WMD claims that got us into Iraq because congress voted for it. This president is asking congress to agree to this strike, and now it's completely the same and different.

The democrats pass a health care plan based on the exact model that a republican pushed through in Massachusetts, but you only find fault at this point.

Herr Bush pushed unfunded mandates on this country that increased the national debt by Trillions, and you only did a 180 on spending as soon as Obama got in office.

The bottom line is that you are the poster boy for hypocrisy, and I am enjoying the hell out of pointing it out every chance I get.

Deal with it, or STFU!

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#97 Sep 5, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> We, as the great power that America is, honorably promoting and signing the Chemical Weapons Ban Convention.....ratified by our Congress....are occasionally obligated to do the right thing....and enforce that ban....
Some points here...
We (the U.S.) are not solely responsible for the enforcement of the chemical weapons ban...the U.N. and NATO are and the International community are. Until they decide to act we have no business doing anything on our own.

Where is the money to pay for all of this going to come from?? We are so far in debt already it's ridiculous.

Just what are we going to aim our bombs at in Syria? The military has been moved into positions that it is impossible we would not kill civilians. There are limited strategic targets that would make an impact and by the time we bombed them the impact would be zero...except for killing civilains. Yes, they are cowards, but we already knew that.

Mark my words...if we do start lobbing bombs ito Syria, it will NOT end there. Iran, Hezbola, and other terrorists have sworn they will retaliate...and that's not going to end soon either. There is no good ending to this situation. On one hand Syria (Assad) hates us and on the other factions that support the rebels (terrorists) do too...

As long as the religious war goes on in Syria they are more focused on killing eachother than coming after us. Granted, they are nasty and don't care who they kill but that's their religion and I want no part of it. Their justification for killing eachother is non of my, your, or the U.S.'s business.

Don't get me wrong Blue...I realize that many innocent people are being affected by this but our intervention will only serve to leave more of them hating us.
Oneal

United States

#98 Sep 5, 2013
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Baggers such as yourself deserve all of the insults you get.
You've been bellowing about hypocrisy for the last 5 years because this president is doing exactly what your party has been doing for the previous eight.
You didn't see any problem with fake WMD claims that got us into Iraq because congress voted for it. This president is asking congress to agree to this strike, and now it's completely the same and different.
The democrats pass a health care plan based on the exact model that a republican pushed through in Massachusetts, but you only find fault at this point.
Herr Bush pushed unfunded mandates on this country that increased the national debt by Trillions, and you only did a 180 on spending as soon as Obama got in office.
The bottom line is that you are the poster boy for hypocrisy, and I am enjoying the hell out of pointing it out every chance I get.
Deal with it, or STFU!
Your own comments credit the reasons I've had to point out the left's hypocrisy. Liberals whined and behaved like babies under Bush, and then elected a sportier version of the same thing. As if that weren't obvious the first go round you damned idiots reelected him despite any evidence of the hope and change you morons fell for in the first place!

Syria is but another example of the left's sheer political allegiance to Bush II, but feel free to do your best O-blamo impression and try to pretend you're not a hypocrite.
free thinker

Farmington, MI

#99 Sep 5, 2013
Bob wrote:
You didn't see any problem with fake WMD claims that got us into Iraq because congress voted for it.
I don't think the Kurds found those gas WMD too fake. How many thousands of them did Hussein kill and how many more thousands lived the rest of their lives impaired or suffeing from birth defects if they or their parents happened to survive? Interesting that he used Sarin and now Assad did, too. Care to guess where he got it?
Why is it okay that we bomb Syria because they used Sarin on civilians but not okay that we also attacked Hussein for similar reasons?
free thinker

Farmington, MI

#100 Sep 5, 2013
Bob wrote:
The democrats pass a health care plan based on the exact model that a republican pushed through in Massachusetts, but you only find fault at this point.
Small point of difference; the citizens of Massachusetts WANTED the plan. The citizens of the US did not...and still don't.
Damn, dude...I don't know what's wrong with you but I bet it's hard to pronounce and won't be covered under Obamacare.

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