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Santorum makes prenatal testing a campaign issue

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Go Blue

West Palm Beach, FL

#24 Feb 23, 2012
The Real Sandy wrote:
<quoted text>Your maturity level matches Sassy's. For someone who says he is mature and doesn't insult or name call, you sure have fallen into those habits. Perhaps you should change the people you admire? They are a bad influence on you. That or perhaps you should leave the scotch alone for a while???
That,"typical" is kinda rude, eh? Guess who i learned that from? Somebody that exudes maturity.....
Mark

Rockford, MI

#25 Feb 23, 2012
Go Blue wrote:
<quoted text>...Mark, don't you agree, that with all that is going on....prenatal testing should be foremost in this election?
Kind of interesting that you mention this. The people that brought up the whole controversy... George Stephanopolous asked a contraception question in a debate a month or so ago, out of nowhere. Asked Romney.Then B.O. With his overreach ordering Catholic entities to offer abortifacients and abortion insurance. So if anyone is making this an issue it's LIBTARDS because they think their culture of death is a winnable issue.

Pregnancy is not a disease, and the whole concept of choice, is bs. If it is elective surgery, much like lyposuction or a boob job, why is it "covered by insurance."

If you believe in the elective use of contraceptives, sterilization and abortion... Step up a pay for it yourselves, as you would any other elective cosmetic surgery. We could extend it to the whole deadbeat dad argument too. If the gals got all the choice why the need for the man to support anything. She obviously elected to get and stay pregnant. You guys want both sides of the argument and either way you want someone else to pay.

This government regulated destruction of the nuclear family is destroying society. For every social program spawns only more social programs to fix the unintended consequences brought on by the former.
Mark

Rockford, MI

#26 Feb 23, 2012
Sassy wrote:
Who ever said insurance was free? Sorry I pay premiums, I pay co pays. But since you are an employer you just don't like the cost continuing to increase for over the last 10 years. This is not any Presidents fault. It is the cost of medical care, and until everyone realizes that, we will remain in the status quo that we are in now.
<quoted text>
You are changing the argument from what you pay to what must be offered by the employer. Your copayment isn't much of nothing of the total cost. And if Obamacare stays, many will have subsidized coverage, while many will not. It's bs... But what's new out of the Libs.

You have me completely wrong on the subject. I'm for single payer, what drives the cost up is what is "covered"

I'm not for elective type surgeries(breast augmentation, rhinoplasty, liposuction) being covered. I'm not for unrestricted pharmaceuticals being covered either (but that's another argument). Pregnancy isn't a medical dysfunction....it's part of the human species life, fighting to live on.

But on second thought... All plastic surgeries should be covered as pretty people have an unfair advantage in life, and if everyone is beautiful, then we take that off the table and it really is then Aristotle wins the debate...and Plato is rendered moot.
AnnAgain

Oakland, CA

#27 Feb 23, 2012
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>Kind of interesting that you mention this. The people that brought up the whole controversy... George Stephanopolous asked a contraception question in a debate a month or so ago, out of nowhere. Asked Romney.Then B.O. With his overreach ordering Catholic entities to offer abortifacients and abortion insurance. So if anyone is making this an issue it's LIBTARDS because they think their culture of death is a winnable issue.
Pregnancy is not a disease, and the whole concept of choice, is bs. If it is elective surgery, much like lyposuction or a boob job, why is it "covered by insurance."
If you believe in the elective use of contraceptives, sterilization and abortion... Step up a pay for it yourselves, as you would any other elective cosmetic surgery. We could extend it to the whole deadbeat dad argument too. If the gals got all the choice why the need for the man to support anything. She obviously elected to get and stay pregnant. You guys want both sides of the argument and either way you want someone else to pay.
This government regulated destruction of the nuclear family is destroying society. For every social program spawns only more social programs to fix the unintended consequences brought on by the former.
I'm gonna take a wild guess here (not)- you're not a woman and about as intelligent as a salted slug :-/
I'm sure you would agree, given the minor problems facing the Nation, State mandated penetration of a woman's vagina with a medical device should be our main concern - moron!
Mark

Rockford, MI

#28 Feb 23, 2012
AnnAgain wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm gonna take a wild guess here (not)- you're not a woman and about as intelligent as a salted slug :-/
I'm sure you would agree, given the minor problems facing the Nation, State mandated penetration of a woman's vagina with a medical device should be our main concern - moron!
And I'm sure you agree that state sponsored penetration of a woman's vagina with a medical device should be all taxpayer required...

Given that the democrats are the ones throwing this "issue" up as an issue....who did George stephanopolous work for again...? Clinton. Is Barack Obama a democrat or a republican.....? Democrat... 1st amendment means nothing to you, I see... So STFU

That's where this whole line of thinking gets you...how's that taste annie
Mark

Rockford, MI

#29 Feb 23, 2012
AnnAgain wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm gonna take a wild guess here (not)- you're not a woman and about as intelligent as a salted slug :-/
I'm sure you would agree, given the minor problems facing the Nation, State mandated penetration of a woman's vagina with a medical device should be our main concern - moron!
Oh I forget to tell you your tin foil chastity belt is showing,

If it wasn't your main concern why are all the libtards talking about it and asking questions about it?
AnnAgain

Oakland, CA

#31 Feb 23, 2012
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>And I'm sure you agree that state sponsored penetration of a woman's vagina with a medical device should be all taxpayer required...
Given that the democrats are the ones throwing this "issue" up as an issue....who did George stephanopolous work for again...? Clinton. Is Barack Obama a democrat or a republican.....? Democrat... 1st amendment means nothing to you, I see... So STFU
That's where this whole line of thinking gets you...how's that taste annie
I guess I'll rest my case, come on buddy you can do better, you even failed to comprehend my post
Go Blue

Grayling, MI

#34 Feb 23, 2012
Go Blue wrote:
<quoted text> That,"typical" is kinda rude, eh? Guess who i learned that from? Somebody that exudes maturity.....
Just like you cracker bitch.
Sassy

Memphis, TN

#35 Feb 23, 2012
yea I know.
Go Blue wrote:
Yeah, Obama said insurance was free........typical.....Don't you know Sassy, it's always all Obama's fault, in Sandy World.....
Sassy

Memphis, TN

#36 Feb 23, 2012
Mark, I know the cost to the employer. I pay the fricking bill, and I have also been on the receiving end of those increases. I understand the employers stance. HOWEVER, to blame these increases all on Obama is truly ludicrious. The cost of insurance has risen 10 - 15% every year for many years. Even before Obama was in office. The PROBLEM is the COST of Health Care.
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>You are changing the argument from what you pay to what must be offered by the employer. Your copayment isn't much of nothing of the total cost. And if Obamacare stays, many will have subsidized coverage, while many will not. It's bs... But what's new out of the Libs.
You have me completely wrong on the subject. I'm for single payer, what drives the cost up is what is "covered"
I'm not for elective type surgeries(breast augmentation, rhinoplasty, liposuction) being covered. I'm not for unrestricted pharmaceuticals being covered either (but that's another argument). Pregnancy isn't a medical dysfunction....it's part of the human species life, fighting to live on.
But on second thought... All plastic surgeries should be covered as pretty people have an unfair advantage in life, and if everyone is beautiful, then we take that off the table and it really is then Aristotle wins the debate...and Plato is rendered moot.
Sassy

Memphis, TN

#37 Feb 23, 2012
As far as plastic surgery goes, I totally agree with you. However, what if someone is injured in fire? I agree that elective surgery aka cosmetic SHOULD NOT be covered by insurance.

I also believe that there should be more mental health care coverage. Do you quit treating a patient and limit them to 20 visits because they have cancer? No you do not. Mental Health should be treated the same way. Mentally ill people have problems, and it is ignored and frowned upon by society and insurance, when in fact it is a true problem. Have you ever dealt with someone that is truly anorexic, bolimic (sp), depressed, suffered from high anxiety, bi pole, PTSD, et. and have difficulty dealing with daily life, and cannot get treated anymore as they cannot afford to pay for it as their insurance coverage runs out. Probably not, but I may be assuming too much with that. However because Cancer you can see they will get continuous treatement.
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>You are changing the argument from what you pay to what must be offered by the employer. Your copayment isn't much of nothing of the total cost. And if Obamacare stays, many will have subsidized coverage, while many will not. It's bs... But what's new out of the Libs.
You have me completely wrong on the subject. I'm for single payer, what drives the cost up is what is "covered"
I'm not for elective type surgeries(breast augmentation, rhinoplasty, liposuction) being covered. I'm not for unrestricted pharmaceuticals being covered either (but that's another argument). Pregnancy isn't a medical dysfunction....it's part of the human species life, fighting to live on.
But on second thought... All plastic surgeries should be covered as pretty people have an unfair advantage in life, and if everyone is beautiful, then we take that off the table and it really is then Aristotle wins the debate...and Plato is rendered moot.
Mark

Rockford, MI

#38 Feb 23, 2012
Sassy wrote:
Mark, I know the cost to the employer. I pay the fricking bill, and I have also been on the receiving end of those increases. I understand the employers stance. HOWEVER, to blame these increases all on Obama is truly ludicrious. The cost of insurance has risen 10 - 15% every year for many years. Even before Obama was in office. The PROBLEM is the COST of Health Care.
<quoted text>
Is it warm on your planet? Where is your relevance to the subject that ive been talking about? You are addressing me but nothing I've said. I've not blamed Obama in the posts you're addressing, haven't even said a damn thing about cost increases. Chill and take you perception meds.
Sassy

Memphis, TN

#39 Feb 23, 2012
Just another one of your many jobs. Like an accountnt?
The Real Sandy wrote:
<quoted text>Your hero, Obama said it when he said that the insurance companies would cover it and it would be "free" to the employers. Not our fault he is clueless how the real world works. As for whom to blame for the medical costs increasing, I might suggest you look to your beloved government. They set the rates for what can be charged for each procedure and then they tell the insurance companies what they can negotiate those rates down to. Don't believe me? As anyone who does medical coding and billing OR even your own physician. If your physician is honest, he/she will tell you. Mine did when I asked him directly.
Mark

Rockford, MI

#40 Feb 23, 2012
Sassy wrote:
As far as plastic surgery goes, I totally agree with you. However, what if someone is injured in fire? I agree that elective surgery aka cosmetic SHOULD NOT be covered by insurance.
I also believe that there should be more mental health care coverage. Do you quit treating a patient and limit them to 20 visits because they have cancer? No you do not. Mental Health should be treated the same way. Mentally ill people have problems, and it is ignored and frowned upon by society and insurance, when in fact it is a true problem. Have you ever dealt with someone that is truly anorexic, bolimic (sp), depressed, suffered from high anxiety, bi pole, PTSD, et. and have difficulty dealing with daily life, and cannot get treated anymore as they cannot afford to pay for it as their insurance coverage runs out. Probably not, but I may be assuming too much with that. However because Cancer you can see they will get continuous treatement.
<quoted text>
Fire, I don't see where that is elective. But I think you are just flat out wrong about psychotropic drugs, psychiatry, and the problems they cause, but there are certainly some mental health issues, unfortunately they are being cheapened by some of the utter nonsense you mentioned. Does your side ever believe in manning the eff up vs being a victim of a mood swing?
Mark

Rockford, MI

#41 Feb 23, 2012
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>Is it warm on your planet? Where is your relevance to the subject that ive been talking about? You are addressing me but nothing I've said. I've not blamed Obama in the posts you're addressing, haven't even said a damn thing about cost increases. Chill and take you perception meds.
Friggin autocorrect..

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#43 Feb 24, 2012
Sassy wrote:
Just another one of your many jobs. Like an accountnt?
<quoted text>
Sheesh! Apparently you can't read and comprehend only insult??? I didn't say I worked in Medical Coding and Billing, I said I talked to people who do numbnuts! Perhaps if I type slower you can follow along???? 3 friends who do medical coding and billing, my daughter does medical coding and billing, I have a degree in medical transcription, AND I talked to my physician. Talking to your physician and asking those type of questions, what a concept! Perhaps you might try it, but I doubt you would comprehend what they told you.
Go Blue

West Palm Beach, FL

#44 Feb 24, 2012
Yeah, and don't confuse numbnuts with an insult....er.....
Sassy

Memphis, TN

#45 Feb 25, 2012
By your post, you know nothing about mental illness. Untill it affects your family you will never know. It is quite obvious that you think it doesn't exist. I feel bad for you.
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>Fire, I don't see where that is elective. But I think you are just flat out wrong about psychotropic drugs, psychiatry, and the problems they cause, but there are certainly some mental health issues, unfortunately they are being cheapened by some of the utter nonsense you mentioned. Does your side ever believe in manning the eff up vs being a victim of a mood swing?
Mark

Rockford, MI

#46 Feb 25, 2012
Sassy wrote:
By your post, you know nothing about mental illness. Untill it affects your family you will never know. It is quite obvious that you think it doesn't exist. I feel bad for you.
<quoted text>
& by all your collective posts you've proven Michael Savage right... Don't feel bad for me. Hope you recover soon...
SeenItBefore

Three Rivers, MI

#47 Feb 26, 2012
Mark wrote:
You guys have it backwards, as usual... Government is already so small it fits in the vagina, and he wants it out.... Why should government impose insurers to provide free.... Blah blah blah....
Government forcing is bigger gubment.
No oppressives are "killing" society.
"Forcing" it to be available to everyone is not forcing everyone to avail themselves of it.

de·moc·ra·cy
4. Majority rule.
5. The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.

e·qual (EE'kwuhl)
adjective
1. Having the same capability, quantity, effect, or value as another.
2. Having the same privileges, status, or rights.

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