GM to close Wyoming Stamping plant

The Wyoming stamping plant will be closed by General Motors by December 2009, 24 Hour News 8 has learned.

[commonsense]

The union has done this to itself. Its just another in a line of cuts, layoffs, closings etc thanks to outrageous wages and healthcare demands.

[Mushmouth]

My dad is a year from retirement.
I hope he can still get his full pension.

[The way to Freedom]

commonsense wrote:

The union has done this to itself. Its just another in a line of cuts, layoffs, closings etc thanks to outrageous wages and healthcare demands.

This is the direct consequence of the Republican Party’s policies, paying companies to move out of the country. This is not a union problem; it is all jobs that have been closing down. You have blinders on to not see it.

[Arctic49519]

commonsense wrote:

The union has done this to itself. Its just another in a line of cuts, layoffs, closings etc thanks to outrageous wages and healthcare demands.

If you are so sure it's because of outrageous wages, then why didn't you post what these outrageous wages and healthcare demands are?

This is just more union bashing without any substantiated facts. They want to believe that the workers who don't make the business decisions are solely responsible for what happens to a company.

[Ann]

The way to Freedom wrote:

<quoted text>
This is the direct consequence of the Republican Party’s policies, paying companies to move out of the country. This is not a union problem; it is all jobs that have been closing down. You have blinders on to not see it.

There might be some truth to what you say. Bill Clinton helped entice them when NAFTA came into existance. Granholm pushed them out wih more taxes an the unions kept demanding more.
Hmm..the way I see it, it seems to be more liberal mentality driving these failures than anything else.

[Allen Cash]

Ann wrote:

<quoted text>There might be some truth to what you say. Bill Clinton helped entice them when NAFTA came into existance. Granholm pushed them out wih more taxes an the unions kept demanding more.
Hmm..the way I see it, it seems to be more liberal mentality driving these failures than anything else.

I would say that I 1/2 agree with you and with commonsense.

Unions AND NAFTA are to blame. NAFTA serves as an open door and Unions serve as the idiots pushing companies like GM thru said door.

I think we would do ourselves great if we pulled out of NAFTA, because it did NOT do what we were told it would do, and that was create jobs in America and bring more business to American companies. Instead it served as a way for American companies to get cheap labor.

[So Sad]

And people are asking for 4 more years of the GOP...not!

[michael g]

The way to Freedom wrote:

<quoted text>
This is the direct consequence of the Republican Party’s policies, paying companies to move out of the country. This is not a union problem; it is all jobs that have been closing down. You have blinders on to not see it.

Really? The republicans paid GM to move these jobs out of the country? Huh, you'd think they would have put that in the story.

[Ann]

Allen Cash wrote:

<quoted text>
I would say that I 1/2 agree with you and with commonsense.
Unions AND NAFTA are to blame. NAFTA serves as an open door and Unions serve as the idiots pushing companies like GM thru said door.
I think we would do ourselves great if we pulled out of NAFTA, because it did NOT do what we were told it would do, and that was create jobs in America and bring more business to American companies. Instead it served as a way for American companies to get cheap labor.

Well said !! I agree with you 3/4..lol. Kidding.
Maybe after a few more conversations on the subject we'll fully agree. Thank You

[Killroy]

Allen Cash wrote:

<quoted text>
I would say that I 1/2 agree with you and with commonsense.
Unions AND NAFTA are to blame. NAFTA serves as an open door and Unions serve as the idiots pushing companies like GM thru said door.
I think we would do ourselves great if we pulled out of NAFTA, because it did NOT do what we were told it would do, and that was create jobs in America and bring more business to American companies. Instead it served as a way for American companies to get cheap labor.

The UAW is a dying breed. I show no remorse for these people who have fleeced corporations to give them mindless work for high dollar wages.

[b durant]

commonsense wrote:

The union has done this to itself. Its just another in a line of cuts, layoffs, closings etc thanks to outrageous wages and healthcare demands.

Oh, get a life. This is a big blow to many fine employees & West MI as a whole! The General is in trouble. I have little doubt they had to do this, but it still really hurts a lot of very good American workers. I will wish them the best. Get off the union bashing & Granholm bashing, too. These are fellow Americans & West MI citizens. Big economic blow that will have major ripple effect throughout GR & environs.

[rooster]

GM will move these jobs to China and then tell you to "buy American"! Believe it!
People don't understand how devastating an experience like this closing is until they experience it themselves(been there myself). Drop the "blame" right where it belongs..in GM's hands! They made this decision to make more money, nothing else!
Why doesn't Wyoming City Manager Curtis Holt demand the Million dolars in tax abatements Wyoming City
fathers gave GM just a few years ago(to keep them around). Maybe that would make GM give this a second thought!? They-GM- broke this agreemant and they owe the back taxes.

[kclh_thunk]

some one please cite just how it is republicans did this. give examples. I think you'all just like to whine and blame. If republicans caused this, please tell how.

[no KoolAid here]

Arctic49519 wrote:

If you are so sure it's because of outrageous wages, then why didn't you post what these outrageous wages and healthcare demands are?

IMO most of those who go on about 'outrageous wages' are really saying, "Wah! Someone makes more than me and I don't think it's fair". Guess some of them haven't learned one of life's important lessons yet: nowhere is it written that life is-or must be-fair.

[not delusional]

buy American manufactured products! The job you save may be your own.#0 years ago, 80% of our economy was based in manufacturing, now it is around 30%. the rest is in service work and finance. You can see where this got us.

Oh by the way, The GM plant in WQyoming is known for having one of the "weakest" local unions. We have gone above and beyond what any other GM stamping plant has done. This closing has to with logistics, nothing more,

[kev]

In my opinion there are two main factors. Number one is gas prices. The big three have all had big trucks, vans, and SUVs as their bread and butter, now that gas has gone up that dynamic is changing. Number two just as with the realestate market, people made purchases that they cannot afford. Think about it, how many people have financed their vehicles through financial institutions owned by or in part by the big three???

[Wyoming Bob]

kclh_thunk wrote:

some one please cite just how it is republicans did this. give examples. I think you'all just like to whine and blame. If republicans caused this, please tell how.

Plus PROVE it !

[dragon_fly121 aka steve]

michael g wrote:

<quoted text>
Really? The republicans paid GM to move these jobs out of the country? Huh, you'd think they would have put that in the story.

Could you please supply a link to the information that made you make the above statement?

I didn't think so.....

[Ronnie]

no KoolAid here wrote:

<quoted text>
IMO most of those who go on about 'outrageous wages' are really saying, "Wah! Someone makes more than me and I don't think it's fair". Guess some of them haven't learned one of life's important lessons yet: nowhere is it written that life is-or must be-fair.

True...life isn't always fair. Please take this test to verify you're not a complete moron:

Scenario: You own your own company and notice that your forklift driver is sleeping and there are several people on line who are drunk. Do you:

(A) Get rid of them
or
(B) Continue to pay these slugs and quite possibly be "written up" by the UAW just for sticking your nose in it

[common joe worker]

wasn`t this plant on strike just a few months ago?
what did they want? more everything.
gm has to cut wages and start making a profit.
paying people $30-$40 an hour is not going to make a profit.
how many of these people can go out and say they are skilled enough to make this money?
work there can be done by a sixth grader.
the reason companies go to china because of their government. items sold in china have to be built in china.
if this plant was in lansing or detroit granholm would be on the phone.
vote republican and granholm must go!!