Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Southfield, MI

#126 Jan 3, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
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Me lived off your labor? Fat chance sonney boy. I raised my kids without ANY help from you. And you aren't contributing a precious nickle to me. I paid my way even through the four recessions you republican hacks caused. And didn't moan and groan 1/10th of what you do.
My percentage is high. One day you and I will pass each other and you will not catch a life altering sickness.... I will relish that day. So you are living off a State Program........ Last I looked the State does not produce income.....
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#127 Jan 3, 2013
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
If you pay no income tax then you should not be allowed to vote..... It takes people who know what it takes to support a limited govt......
And you know I pay no income tax how?

Not everyone that pays income taxes is so greedy to resent it because they actually know how their businesses aren't viable without government. You'll find no industrialized 1st world country on the planet that business isn't dependent on the governments. It wasn't even that when this country was founded;
United States Constitution
Article 1, Section 8;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
For those of you that don't know; the power of law behind protection of patents.

Among the establishment and maintenance of the court system to enforce private contracts, to arrest and prosecute theft and destruction and/or invasion of business properties, among so many other areas protecting business all on the taxes of the entirety of the tax paying public.

Oh, and let us not forget the subsidies for private business. Including very large corporations that are making profits off those subsidies/gifts that don't need them to be profitable.
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#128 Jan 3, 2013
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>My percentage is high. One day you and I will pass each other and you will not catch a life altering sickness.... I will relish that day. So you are living off a State Program........ Last I looked the State does not produce income.....
Pharmaceuticals then? HUGE government subsidies on the backs of the tax payers with giganticous profits and exorbitant prices just because they can.

It doesn't make any difference. You get the point.
Chip

Madison, WI

#129 Jan 3, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
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If you learned anything about math in school you might want to try using it on the income scale. It's because you're using your math that makes you stupid about it.
I'll give you a very simple example. If you take 56.8% from $500,000 and 50% from $60,000 who is left with more? So sorry the one making $500,000 is now poorer than the one making $60,000. Oh, wait a minute, that's your math that flips the wealth scale.
Again with the examples not based in reality. Give me one person who is making 60k and paying 50% in taxes.

You completely missed the point that the wealthy seen taxes go up both in terms of $'s and % than anybody else. You simply don't care becuase you lack the comprehension of what risks were taken, sacrifices made, and hard work it took for these people to get where they are. You would rather just steal from them so you can do less and satisfy your lazy desires. How dare these people make themselves better and provide employment for others.

What about the person who worked all of their lives and sacrificed to build a busienss, now they want to sell it and retire and now have to pay additional money in taxes because of the one year in which they sold the company they are in a high tax bracket. Thats right you don't care about them either, you only care about yourself.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Southfield, MI

#130 Jan 3, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
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And you know I pay no income tax how?
Not everyone that pays income taxes is so greedy to resent it because they actually know how their businesses aren't viable without government. You'll find no industrialized 1st world country on the planet that business isn't dependent on the governments. It wasn't even that when this country was founded;
United States Constitution
Article 1, Section 8;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
For those of you that don't know; the power of law behind protection of patents.
Among the establishment and maintenance of the court system to enforce private contracts, to arrest and prosecute theft and destruction and/or invasion of business properties, among so many other areas protecting business all on the taxes of the entirety of the tax paying public.
Oh, and let us not forget the subsidies for private business. Including very large corporations that are making profits off those subsidies/gifts that don't need them to be profitable.
Dude, you seriously said that... I don't mind the taxes but I do mind the wasteful spending that happens... Your years of Professorship does not diminish the reality of working families who pay a third to the Federal govt and are not protected by any of their programs because they make too much. It is like paying for cable without getting the service..... Makers and Takers......
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#131 Jan 3, 2013
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>My percentage is high. One day you and I will pass each other and you will not catch a life altering sickness.... I will relish that day. So you are living off a State Program........ Last I looked the State does not produce income.....
And you know I live off a State Program HOW?

The State doesn't produce income? Maybe not. But it does provide the means to produce income.
United States Constitution
Article 1, Section 8
"To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;"

"To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;"

Without it you would be working for a loaf of bread, and/or a ham hock, and/or eggs, and/or the chicken, and/or meat from a cow, and/or the cow. Just imagine how many hours you would have to put in to just feed your family much less build the house to shelter them in after you had traded your hours for the land to build it on, with our own hands.

No, again, I am not a big government lover. I do not though off-handed ignore the realities because they don't suit me the way I want them to.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Southfield, MI

#132 Jan 3, 2013
Chip wrote:
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Again with the examples not based in reality. Give me one person who is making 60k and paying 50% in taxes.
You completely missed the point that the wealthy seen taxes go up both in terms of $'s and % than anybody else. You simply don't care becuase you lack the comprehension of what risks were taken, sacrifices made, and hard work it took for these people to get where they are. You would rather just steal from them so you can do less and satisfy your lazy desires. How dare these people make themselves better and provide employment for others.
What about the person who worked all of their lives and sacrificed to build a busienss, now they want to sell it and retire and now have to pay additional money in taxes because of the one year in which they sold the company they are in a high tax bracket. Thats right you don't care about them either, you only care about yourself.
Chip, Madison, WI and how have you survived? You the man.....
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#133 Jan 3, 2013
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>Dude, you seriously said that... I don't mind the taxes but I do mind the wasteful spending that happens... Your years of Professorship does not diminish the reality of working families who pay a third to the Federal govt and are not protected by any of their programs because they make too much. It is like paying for cable without getting the service..... Makers and Takers......
Dude, get over it. I have NEVER been in the teaching profession in any manner.

Like the cable company running their profit making line through my property, over the maintenance easement, and expecting free access off the easement blocking my access whenever they believed it necessary for their own purpose? Not having to pay for that access? Thinking it unreasonable to provide free cable as "payment"? Expecting me to pay for their service while getting free access?

And no I haven't had cable for over 20 years. But I think you get the idea.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Southfield, MI

#134 Jan 3, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
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And you know I live off a State Program HOW?
The State doesn't produce income? Maybe not. But it does provide the means to produce income.
United States Constitution
Article 1, Section 8
"To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;"
"To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;"
Without it you would be working for a loaf of bread, and/or a ham hock, and/or eggs, and/or the chicken, and/or meat from a cow, and/or the cow. Just imagine how many hours you would have to put in to just feed your family much less build the house to shelter them in after you had traded your hours for the land to build it on, with our own hands.
No, again, I am not a big government lover. I do not though off-handed ignore the realities because they don't suit me the way I want them to.
Nice theories. I cook Ragout with hocs and coq au vin all the time. You know what you will pay in a diner for that level of expertise?
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Southfield, MI

#135 Jan 3, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
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Dude, get over it. I have NEVER been in the teaching profession in any manner.
Like the cable company running their profit making line through my property, over the maintenance easement, and expecting free access off the easement blocking my access whenever they believed it necessary for their own purpose? Not having to pay for that access? Thinking it unreasonable to provide free cable as "payment"? Expecting me to pay for their service while getting free access?
And no I haven't had cable for over 20 years. But I think you get the idea.
You are making enough on the dole to have Dish network.....
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#136 Jan 3, 2013
Chip wrote:
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Again with the examples not based in reality. Give me one person who is making 60k and paying 50% in taxes.
You completely missed the point that the wealthy seen taxes go up both in terms of $'s and % than anybody else. You simply don't care becuase you lack the comprehension of what risks were taken, sacrifices made, and hard work it took for these people to get where they are. You would rather just steal from them so you can do less and satisfy your lazy desires. How dare these people make themselves better and provide employment for others.
What about the person who worked all of their lives and sacrificed to build a busienss, now they want to sell it and retire and now have to pay additional money in taxes because of the one year in which they sold the company they are in a high tax bracket. Thats right you don't care about them either, you only care about yourself.
See? I try to give you and easy example to follow, you don't get it because "it's not based in reality" yet you say I missed your point? R E A L L Y!?
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#137 Jan 3, 2013
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>Nice theories. I cook Ragout with hocs and coq au vin all the time. You know what you will pay in a diner for that level of expertise?
Oichh..
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Southfield, MI

#138 Jan 3, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
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Oichh..
You should have your own cook at home..... I travel too much and cook better than the cities I go too......
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#139 Jan 3, 2013
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>You are making enough on the dole to have Dish network.....
I get my TV with an antenna. I refuse to pay any company their ridiculous prices.
Chip

West Bend, WI

#142 Jan 3, 2013
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>Chip, Madison, WI and how have you survived? You the man.....
LOL, I try to avoid the capital square if at all possible. Madison is 90 square miles surrounded by reality!
Chip

Hartland, WI

#143 Jan 3, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
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See? I try to give you and easy example to follow, you don't get it because "it's not based in reality" yet you say I missed your point? R E A L L Y!?
People making 60k are not paying 50% in taxes, that is the reality you don't understand. Only proves you don't have a clue.
Chip

Hartland, WI

#144 Jan 3, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
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I get my TV with an antenna. I refuse to pay any company their ridiculous prices.
Something I actually agree with you on! Got to make sure all my bills are paid so when the government thinks I have saved too much they can take it away and give it to someone who wasn't as responsible. And you wonder why I hate your ideals!
Really

Holland, MI

#145 Jan 3, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
<quoted text>
Me lived off your labor? Fat chance sonney boy. I raised my kids without ANY help from you. And you aren't contributing a precious nickle to me. I paid my way even through the four recessions you republican hacks caused. And didn't moan and groan 1/10th of what you do.
You are still moaning and groaning every opportunity you get, and then throw whining in when you can get away with it.:)
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#146 Jan 3, 2013
Chip wrote:
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LOL, I try to avoid the capital square if at all possible. Madison is 90 square miles surrounded by reality!
Get rid of Scott walker and that will change for the better.

But then you're in CA now. Keep moving around (on the internet)because you're afraid people will find out who you really are. Or are you just playing secret agent man?
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#147 Jan 3, 2013
Chip wrote:
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People making 60k are not paying 50% in taxes, that is the reality you don't understand. Only proves you don't have a clue.
Wow you're really smart. Did you try out for the part of Sherlock Holmes? But then you wouldn't have gotten it as "Holmes" understands the concept of metaphors and exaggerated hypothetical to get a point across. Something that flies right past you.

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