Car buyers standing by GM

Car buyers standing by GM

There are 7211 comments on the WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan story from Mar 6, 2009, titled Car buyers standing by GM. In it, WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan reports that:

General Motors Corporation stock hit its lowest point in more than 75 years on Friday, falling to just $1.27 per share at one point.

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Frank

Brighton, MI

#7255 Dec 23, 2012
I see nothing has changed here. Go Blue how you been? I see some different people joined in. Just to let you know the Ford Escape is built in Kansas City.

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#7256 Dec 24, 2012
Frank wrote:
I see nothing has changed here. Go Blue how you been? I see some different people joined in. Just to let you know the Ford Escape is built in Kansas City.
Merry Christmas , Frank....yeah, and tough news for GM, so many trucks recalled....and Hyundai's for glass skyroofs that shatter on their own...lol...
Frank

Whitmore Lake, MI

#7257 Dec 24, 2012
Merry Christmas. What trucks are being recalled? The only recalls I been hearing are from all the foreigners. I don't think I told you guys but I bought a 2012 Silverado. No recalls on mine.
Frank

Whitmore Lake, MI

#7258 Dec 24, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Merry Christmas , Frank....yeah, and tough news for GM, so many trucks recalled....and Hyundai's for glass skyroofs that shatter on their own...lol...
Are you Go Blue and added Forever or someone else?

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#7259 Dec 24, 2012
Frank wrote:
Merry Christmas. What trucks are being recalled? The only recalls I been hearing are from all the foreigners. I don't think I told you guys but I bought a 2012 Silverado. No recalls on mine.
The recall is on the smaller trucks, for hood latches.

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Since: Oct 12

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#7260 Dec 24, 2012
Frank wrote:
<quoted text> Are you Go Blue and added Forever or someone else?
Same...when i registered, there was already a go blue, so....lol....
Frank

Southfield, MI

#7261 Dec 24, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Same...when i registered, there was already a go blue, so....lol....
I see.
Frank

Alliance, OH

#7262 Dec 24, 2012
I see alot of foreign vehicles being recalled and not doing very well in some crash test. Just so everyone knows TOYota is just about the only one I am hearing about. Thats why I buy AMERICAN and UNION made vehicles. I have mentioned it on here before and I will again because it is one of the most funniest things I have seen, a snow plow on a TOYota Tundra. What the heck was that guy thinking? He needs to buy a real truck!!!! He would be better off with the power wheels we bought our niece for Christmas!!! Just thought I would try to get the ball rolling again. I missed chatting with you guys glad you kept it going.

Since: Oct 12

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#7263 Dec 24, 2012
Actually, for reliability, i still trust some foreign makes, more than domestic...I did see that some of the Toyota's had a problem in a recent crash tests....i often wonder if these crash tests are truly a reliable indicator of real safety levels?
justataxpayer

Indianapolis, IN

#7264 Dec 24, 2012
The airlines went through the same economic downturns in the early decade and resolved their issues by "planning" bankruptcy, which allowed an elimination of benefits and pensions.
After this was accomplished, they raised ticket prices and lowered standards. The result? More people then ever fly. The bailout helped the automakers keep prices high, while consumers took major cuts in pay and helped the used car market immensely. Please Washington, don't help the gas companies next!!

Since: Oct 12

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#7265 Dec 24, 2012
They already do....they tried to pass a bill, that would end subsidys and tax breaks for oil companies, but it was voted down...
Frank

Norwalk, OH

#7267 Dec 24, 2012
justataxpayer wrote:
The airlines went through the same economic downturns in the early decade and resolved their issues by "planning" bankruptcy, which allowed an elimination of benefits and pensions.
After this was accomplished, they raised ticket prices and lowered standards. The result? More people then ever fly. The bailout helped the automakers keep prices high, while consumers took major cuts in pay and helped the used car market immensely. Please Washington, don't help the gas companies next!!
Just remember that the companies that didn't take a bailout have vehicles that cost just as much if not more and pay their workers less. So yeah lets screw the working guy instead of getting management that can run a business. There are many other ways to cut spending instead of eliminating benefits and pensions. Let me guess you are on the management side in what ever it is you do? If your not then maybe you need to join a union. I am in a union and during the recession I got pay raises not pay cuts.
Old Rocker

Hudsonville, MI

#7268 Dec 26, 2012
Frank wrote:
<quoted text> Just remember that the companies that didn't take a bailout have vehicles that cost just as much if not more and pay their workers less. So yeah lets screw the working guy instead of getting management that can run a business. There are many other ways to cut spending instead of eliminating benefits and pensions. Let me guess you are on the management side in what ever it is you do? If your not then maybe you need to join a union. I am in a union and during the recession I got pay raises not pay cuts.
Hi Frank,
Ford didn't take a bailout. Does Ford pay their UAW workers less than GM? Are Ford workers getting screwed?
As far as the recall, how can trucks built over a three year period be missing secondary hood latches? That's either a conscious decision or lazy line workers and poor inspection standards. I would guess that they ran out of parts and rather than stop production, the decision was made to ship them out with missing secondary hood latches and recall them later...if they got caught. I wonder how often that happens with ANY automaker.

Since: Oct 12

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#7269 Dec 26, 2012
Old Rocker wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Frank,
Ford didn't take a bailout. Does Ford pay their UAW workers less than GM? Are Ford workers getting screwed?
As far as the recall, how can trucks built over a three year period be missing secondary hood latches? That's either a conscious decision or lazy line workers and poor inspection standards. I would guess that they ran out of parts and rather than stop production, the decision was made to ship them out with missing secondary hood latches and recall them later...if they got caught. I wonder how often that happens with ANY automaker.
Wonder if it might not have been included in the original design, missed by the engineers that are in charge of safety or content? Normally i would think that, not even possible....buuuut?

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#7270 Dec 26, 2012
Frank wrote:
<quoted text> I am in a union and during the recession I got pay raises not pay cuts.
So, what you are saying is that you got pay raises, but it is only because you are a union member, not because of your work performance, or the quality of your work, it's only because of your union membership that you got those raises.
Nice!
For me, I'd rather get my pay raises because the owner see's my work effort, and production, and dedication.
Frank

Southfield, MI

#7271 Dec 26, 2012
Old Rocker wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Frank,
Ford didn't take a bailout. Does Ford pay their UAW workers less than GM? Are Ford workers getting screwed?
As far as the recall, how can trucks built over a three year period be missing secondary hood latches? That's either a conscious decision or lazy line workers and poor inspection standards. I would guess that they ran out of parts and rather than stop production, the decision was made to ship them out with missing secondary hood latches and recall them later...if they got caught. I wonder how often that happens with ANY automaker.
No Ford didn't take a bail out and I wasn't talking about Ford I am talking about the foreign companies.

Since: Oct 12

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#7272 Dec 26, 2012
Exactly, pay raises should come from merit....and only during a healthy business climate....Unions have started out doing good, and ended up being a disservice to the american worker, let alone the manufacturing sector....
Pete

Chicago, IL

#7273 Dec 26, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
Last month, all three american automakers saw increased sales...yet, Toyota has likely finally recovered from all their recalls and their earthquake, and may be ready to take back the #1 position, in the world.....
Toyota must pay 1.4 billion for being...to good. We bailed out GM-Govt Motors for being to bad. GM was only #1 ON PAPER!!Like their specs!!!!Noy Good.....keep bailing numb nuuuuttttssss!!!!
Frank

Southfield, MI

#7274 Dec 26, 2012
Gville Jim wrote:
<quoted text>So, what you are saying is that you got pay raises, but it is only because you are a union member, not because of your work performance, or the quality of your work, it's only because of your union membership that you got those raises.
Nice!
For me, I'd rather get my pay raises because the owner see's my work effort, and production, and dedication.
I would love to get a pay raise for for the reasons you said but its not always like that. The company I work for has many plants that do the same kind of work but at different levels and our plant does the most difficult jobs and has their biggest customer. The current owners bought the company a few years ago and have done nothing but take from their employees, with the exception of us. We are the only union plant. If it was up to our owners we would be working for $8 an hour not $18 and cut benefits in half. I know they would do that because they done it at ALL their other plants and tried to do it at ours but good thing we had a voice and didn't have to just bend over and take it like the rest of them. It took a 3 month long strike but we won. I would love to find a job that pays close to what I make and get respected and pay based on performance but its not always like that. If there was no union I wouldn't make and have what I have. Sorry to go on for so long but I wanted to try to help you understand my situation.
Frank

Southfield, MI

#7276 Dec 26, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
Exactly, pay raises should come from merit....and only during a healthy business climate....Unions have started out doing good, and ended up being a disservice to the american worker, let alone the manufacturing sector....
Not always the case. During the recession our plant was the only in our company not laying off and actually picking up more work. During the recession they closed a few of their non union plants and moved some of the work to our union plant. They wanted us not take our raise because that what they were doing at their other plants. The corporate big wigs met with our union to discuss us giving up our raises, our union wanted them to show them how they were loosing money at our place and to seen the books because the company wanted to changed a signed contract and take what we already have coming. We were willing to give our raise up if it would mean loss of jobs but it did't. After the union wanted to see the books that was the end.

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