Car buyers standing by GM

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General Motors Corporation stock hit its lowest point in more than 75 years on Friday, falling to just $1.27 per share at one point.

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Not a Native

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Oct 21, 2010
 
I guess it goes back to the whole reason why GM is in this mess:

HIGH VOLUME must mean HIGH QUALITY.
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Oct 21, 2010
 
Not a Native wrote:
I guess it goes back to the whole reason why GM is in this mess:
HIGH VOLUME must mean HIGH QUALITY.
Same old $h!T. toyota recalls 1.6 million vehicles! And those jap lovin morons still buy their subpar crap! Buy an american brand car! Support your country! Stop paying for national health care in japan!!!
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Oct 21, 2010
 
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>Same old $h!T. toyota recalls 1.6 million vehicles! And those jap lovin morons still buy their subpar crap! Buy an american brand car! Support your country! Stop paying for national health care in japan!!!
Trash the unions, and I will buy an American car.
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Oct 21, 2010
 
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>Same old $h!T. toyota recalls 1.6 million vehicles! And those jap lovin morons still buy their subpar crap! Buy an american brand car! Support your country! Stop paying for national health care in japan!!!
you just dont get it, do ya Patrot.

See, Toyota has recalls to fix problems.

The little 4 has daily recalls......the repair shop, see they break all the time!

Oh, Im sorry, nobody is supposed to know that...my bad!

Does GM drug test their employees? Check criminal records? Has anyone ever been fired for growing and sell drugs?

Dont responed, we already know the answers.....POSs!!!!!!

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Oct 22, 2010
 
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Geez....VW outsells Mercedes Benz, do you think they're better?
No, not to my way of thinking, but that appears to be the predominant trend in the "thinking" of much of the industry.
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Oct 22, 2010
 
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No, not to my way of thinking, but that appears to be the predominant trend in the "thinking" of much of the industry.
Not really Taz, even tho they seem to be most interested in total volumne, actually average unit profit is probably most important. Mercedes making $1350 per unit is more profitable, than a VW, making only $520 per vehicle.....What the unions did to the american manufacturers, with their high wages and unrealistic retirement programs, was to deplete profit margins.....
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Oct 22, 2010
 
60 day handshake wrote:
<quoted text>you just dont get it, do ya Patrot.
See, Toyota has recalls to fix problems.
The little 4 has daily recalls......the repair shop, see they break all the time!
Oh, Im sorry, nobody is supposed to know that...my bad!
Does GM drug test their employees? Check criminal records? Has anyone ever been fired for growing and sell drugs?
Dont responed, we already know the answers.....POSs!!!!!!
Oh I insist on responding 60 day! 60 days of shaking your own hand "wink, wink"! You must be a self made ,get it self made kind of guy! toyota is by far the worse car company bar none, read a news paper and stop shakin that thing! 60 days that may be a record! Gm does drug test there employee's does toyota Most of the japs love their dope after all look at their quality record!! Didn't you daddy tell ya if you don't quit the shakin you will do gay things like buy a jap made car LOL!!!!
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Oct 22, 2010
 
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Trash the unions, and I will buy an American car.
Join one you will be a better oriential! You will finally get paid what your are worth! No wait maybe you are worthless! Nevermind.
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<quoted text>Join one you will be a better oriential! You will finally get paid what your are worth! No wait maybe you are worthless! Nevermind.
No way, sorry, if the workers have no ballz to have the ability to talk to the CEO without a union, you are crap.!!!(and so is the place you work for)

When it comes to business each can either play hardball, or each can developer the best damn leanest company of the planet.
Creating a "union" is a blatant statement AGAINST a company, but "they" ARE the owners and only pisses them off.
Hand in hand, the "workers" want to keep a pretty good job, and NOT piss off the company.

All a union does is piss off the company, hence they now WANT to cheat you, even more !!!!
I agree with workers, and company, the "union" is now the problem.

One may say, "OK but China has low wages" but, figure WE make a car that is cheap, stays working for 10 years, no rust, and that way cheap labor is bad for the company.And can only be done if both workers are working for the same thing as the boss.

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Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>Join one you will be a better oriential! You will finally get paid what your are worth! No wait maybe you are worthless! Nevermind.
He is just a wanta be SCAB. For all we know he is already one but it don't matter a scab is a scab.
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No way, sorry, if the workers have no ballz to have the ability to talk to the CEO without a union, you are crap.!!!(and so is the place you work for)
When it comes to business each can either play hardball, or each can developer the best damn leanest company of the planet.
Creating a "union" is a blatant statement AGAINST a company, but "they" ARE the owners and only pisses them off.
Hand in hand, the "workers" want to keep a pretty good job, and NOT piss off the company.
All a union does is piss off the company, hence they now WANT to cheat you, even more !!!!
I agree with workers, and company, the "union" is now the problem.
One may say, "OK but China has low wages" but, figure WE make a car that is cheap, stays working for 10 years, no rust, and that way cheap labor is bad for the company.And can only be done if both workers are working for the same thing as the boss.
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The biggest thing unions have done is create an adversarial relationship between management and labor. How can any company be efficient if they waste so much energy fighting each other?
Bottom line. Management needs labor and labor needs management. Management and labor CANNOT be enemies. They must work together toward a COMMON goal, not individual goals. Companies that grasp this concept succeed. Companies that don't struggle or fail.
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Old Rocker wrote:
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The biggest thing unions have done is create an adversarial relationship between management and labor. How can any company be efficient if they waste so much energy fighting each other?
Bottom line. Management needs labor and labor needs management. Management and labor CANNOT be enemies. They must work together toward a COMMON goal, not individual goals. Companies that grasp this concept succeed. Companies that don't struggle or fail.
If everyone complies with what they agree to there shouldn't be anyproblems. In our situations where I work 99% of the time management is the one that breaks what they agreed to.
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No way, sorry, if the workers have no ballz to have the ability to talk to the CEO without a union, you are crap.!!!(and so is the place you work for)
When it comes to business each can either play hardball, or each can developer the best damn leanest company of the planet.
Creating a "union" is a blatant statement AGAINST a company, but "they" ARE the owners and only pisses them off.
Hand in hand, the "workers" want to keep a pretty good job, and NOT piss off the company.
All a union does is piss off the company, hence they now WANT to cheat you, even more !!!!
I agree with workers, and company, the "union" is now the problem.
One may say, "OK but China has low wages" but, figure WE make a car that is cheap, stays working for 10 years, no rust, and that way cheap labor is bad for the company.And can only be done if both workers are working for the same thing as the boss.
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Eh Gad you are a moron! My guess front line manangment! You should be accountable for your work and your leadership!

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RFist333 wrote:
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No way, sorry, if the workers have no ballz to have the ability to talk to the CEO without a union, you are crap.!!!(and so is the place you work for)
When it comes to business each can either play hardball, or each can developer the best damn leanest company of the planet.
Creating a "union" is a blatant statement AGAINST a company, but "they" ARE the owners and only pisses them off.
Hand in hand, the "workers" want to keep a pretty good job, and NOT piss off the company.
All a union does is piss off the company, hence they now WANT to cheat you, even more !!!!
I agree with workers, and company, the "union" is now the problem.
One may say, "OK but China has low wages" but, figure WE make a car that is cheap, stays working for 10 years, no rust, and that way cheap labor is bad for the company.And can only be done if both workers are working for the same thing as the boss.
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In most cases, if you try to talk to the CEO at a non union company, you will be fired! It has nothing to do with bravery or the lack of it.

The existence of a union does not have to mean that an adversarial relationship exists between the company and management. That is up to the people involved, both local management and the union local officials. Unions have, in many cases, saved their company money by working with the company.

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In a free country, an employer would be able to fire or hire anyone for any reason he sees fit.
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I read an article in our local paper and they had an article about the auto industry. They said every automaker saw major sale increases except TOYota. That should tell you something. By the way they ranked the highest selling vehicles. Guess what? It wasn't a car the top 2 vehicles sold were Ford F series and Chevy Silverado. Thats out of every vehicle trucks, cars and SUV's. Its hard to beleive trucks are the best selling vehicle. The TOYota Tundra didn't even make the list.5126

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Frank wrote:
I read an article in our local paper and they had an article about the auto industry. They said every automaker saw major sale increases except TOYota. That should tell you something. By the way they ranked the highest selling vehicles. Guess what? It wasn't a car the top 2 vehicles sold were Ford F series and Chevy Silverado. Thats out of every vehicle trucks, cars and SUV's. Its hard to beleive trucks are the best selling vehicle. The TOYota Tundra didn't even make the list.5126
Well your article was wrong--the top selling car was the Toyota Camry

The top selling wagon was the Toyota Matrix

And they sold more RAV-4's than both the Chevy Equinox and Ford Escape

"TORRANCE, Calif., Oct. 1, 2010; Toyota Motor Sales (TMS), U.S.A., Inc., today reported September sales of 147,162 units. With equal selling days in September 2009 and September 2010, sales were up 16.8 percent over the year-ago month on a daily selling rate and unadjusted raw volume basis.
Toyota Division recorded sales of 130,214 vehicles, an increase of 20.5 percent over the year-ago month"

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And before fRANK jumps on the same old tired horse--a few quotes from Consumer Reports:

"General Motors has improved considerably, though Honda and Toyota still dominate in the latest predicted-reliability Ratings of new cars, according to Consumer Reports 2010 Annual Auto Survey"

"some GM nameplates had been among the least reliable brands in past years"
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Gentle Taz wrote:
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In most cases, if you try to talk to the CEO at a non union company, you will be fired! It has nothing to do with bravery or the lack of it.
The existence of a union does not have to mean that an adversarial relationship exists between the company and management. That is up to the people involved, both local management and the union local officials. Unions have, in many cases, saved their company money by working with the company.
Are u or real? America saved ur sorry as%$%#$, we saved that botched company.

WE WANT OUR MONEY BACK!

Do u really believe the news when they say GM is paying us back? U would. Its all lies.....the govt does not want america to know the truth....the economy is in the crapper.......GM is going under.

Govt Motors will be closing its doors...soon!!!
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1960brookwood wrote:
And before fRANK jumps on the same old tired horse--a few quotes from Consumer Reports:
"General Motors has improved considerably, though Honda and Toyota still dominate in the latest predicted-reliability Ratings of new cars, according to Consumer Reports 2010 Annual Auto Survey"
"some GM nameplates had been among the least reliable brands in past years"
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingt ires/2010/11/top-10-best-selli ng-cars-october-2010.html I think you better do some research before you speak. Read this article and look at the numbers. Do you know how to read numbers? Looks to me F series and Silverado numbers are at the top of the list out of everything.

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