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John Q Public

Ann Arbor, MI

#1 Jan 7, 2009
I can't believe that there are still people out there that are so clueless about this whole DTV changeover.

IF YOU HAVE CABLE OR SATALITE YOUR FINE!!!!!!!!!

IF NOT GET A CONVERTER BOX!!!!!!!!

ITS THAT SIMPLE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!

CHEESE-N-RICE!!!!!

Since: Dec 08

United States

#2 Jan 7, 2009
John Q Public wrote:
I can't believe that there are still people out there that are so clueless about this whole DTV changeover.
IF YOU HAVE CABLE OR SATALITE YOUR FINE!!!!!!!!!
IF NOT GET A CONVERTER BOX!!!!!!!!
ITS THAT SIMPLE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!
CHEESE-N-RICE!!!!!
I agree 100%. If you haven't gotten your converter box or you don't know what this is all about then you must not have a TV anyway. I wonder how many idiots out there when the 1st test happened called their cable or satalite company saying their TV's failed the test. I think maybe one or two tests is fine, but come on. I don't think we need tons of them. What a bunch of wasted time and I'm sure money. It's probably the reason they ran out of money for the certificates.
John Q Public

Ann Arbor, MI

#3 Jan 7, 2009
krtnews wrote:
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I agree 100%. If you haven't gotten your converter box or you don't know what this is all about then you must not have a TV anyway. I wonder how many idiots out there when the 1st test happened called their cable or satalite company saying their TV's failed the test. I think maybe one or two tests is fine, but come on. I don't think we need tons of them. What a bunch of wasted time and I'm sure money. It's probably the reason they ran out of money for the certificates.
WLAV was talking to an engineer from WZZM and I believe he said it has cost the station around 6 million to change everything out. Miles and Miles of cable and all new digital equipment.

But your right. there will still be people come Feb 17th (or whenever the date is) that will be freaking out not knowing whats going on.

I have Comcast digital cable so I know im all set. But just for chits and giggles I did turn on all my TVs during the last test just to check it out.

all systems are go!

I am bummed out that all you needed was a cable box or a converter. I almost had the wife convinced that we needed a nice big juicy HDTV.:-)

“Almost as Sweet as Gunpowder”

Since: Oct 08

United States

#4 Jan 7, 2009
Does anyone else think that this topic/issue is getting a little too much time, effort, energy, advertising, and money thrown at it?

Why don't they advertise reminders on certain dates for people to help someone, give a little more to a good cause, etc. the way they push the godalmighty TV switch over? Hmmm...hypothetically speaking, if everyone's TV failed in Feb. could it be that we might actually see people out and more active in the community? Parks full? Less instances of obesity and Diabetes and depression over time?

Just some food for thought. I don't get why this is such a majorly huge issue. It's like they think or are trying to convince the people who don't have the proper accoutrements for the switch over that their genitals (can I say that on here?)will shrivel up and fall off!

Just my opinion.
jeff

Sterling Heights, MI

#5 Jan 7, 2009
i am on comcast and on the dtv test i wasn't green and i wasn't, i wasn't anything is that supposed to happen?
Cross-eyed

Saint Charles, IL

#6 Jan 7, 2009
My husband says that only an outdoor antenna will work with a converter box ...we have cable on three TV's so they are okay, and "rabbit ears" on another two in the house. I say he is WRONG, that the rabbit ears one will work as long as we have a converter box on those two TVs. Right? He will listen to anyone BUT me...(but that's MY problem..ha ha.) SOMEBODY, give me in writing that with a converter box, our rabbit ears TVs, will be okay...don't need an outdoor/roof antenna.
John Q Public

Ann Arbor, MI

#7 Jan 7, 2009
Cross-eyed wrote:
My husband says that only an outdoor antenna will work with a converter box ...we have cable on three TV's so they are okay, and "rabbit ears" on another two in the house. I say he is WRONG, that the rabbit ears one will work as long as we have a converter box on those two TVs. Right? He will listen to anyone BUT me...(but that's MY problem..ha ha.) SOMEBODY, give me in writing that with a converter box, our rabbit ears TVs, will be okay...don't need an outdoor/roof antenna.
Your right and your Husband is wrong. Any antenna will work. They say a roof top works "better" than rabbit ears just because it outside with less interference. But YOU are right, they both will work. Have him read this.
http://www.dtv.gov/consumercorner.html#faq19
John Q Public

Ann Arbor, MI

#8 Jan 7, 2009
Cross-eyed wrote:
My husband says that only an outdoor antenna will work with a converter box ...we have cable on three TV's so they are okay, and "rabbit ears" on another two in the house. I say he is WRONG, that the rabbit ears one will work as long as we have a converter box on those two TVs. Right? He will listen to anyone BUT me...(but that's MY problem..ha ha.) SOMEBODY, give me in writing that with a converter box, our rabbit ears TVs, will be okay...don't need an outdoor/roof antenna.
Here is more info to help your cause.:-)

Simple indoor antennas, such as rabbit ears, provide minimal performance that may or may not be suitable for your location. If you are unable to obtain satisfactory reception with your current indoor antenna, you may wish to obtain an indoor antenna that includes features for better reception of UHF signals and/or an amplifier to boost the received signal (often referred to as an active indoor antenna).

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/dtvanten...
lonewatchman

Byron Center, MI

#9 Jan 7, 2009
This is just yet another proof we are trapped in the matrix. The government sure is worried about TVs going blank.
Donna

Troy, MI

#10 Jan 7, 2009
Some of you are so rude!!!!! Maybe everyone doesn't
have the money to just go buy their converter box.
I for one have the coupons,but just saved enough
money for the box,only to find out that they have
expired. They should have had a better system in
place. The funds are gone,the coupons are expired!
What the F--K sense does that make??????
lonewatchman

Byron Center, MI

#11 Jan 7, 2009
Sorry Donna, the government should not have issued any coupons. It's not their job to waste tax money on feel good programs and hand outs.
Donna

Troy, MI

#12 Jan 7, 2009
I wasn't asking for a hand-out, or what you call a
feel good program!! I simlpy want to be able to
watch television,but I guess I'll just spend my
time convoing with idiots like you on my computer.
snomad

Hudsonville, MI

#13 Jan 7, 2009
LOL

WOOD & WZZM are gonna be sure you don't lose their ADVERTISING signal. Pump that digital reminder out every 10 minutes... like we are a bunch of kindergartners. Uh... duh... Antenna need box or no worky. Coupons... they ought to be giving the boxes away. Still costs $20 of my cash and a chunk paid by whom?

Reminds me... just what is the reason/benefit for going all digital? Picture/sound clarity... or are we so bombarded by an array of invisible waves, this is a health benefit... or security issue? Who is subsidizing the coupon cost? Taxpayers? Who is getting compensation (w/coupon flip) for converter sales? China?/Mexico?/Japan?

Could not all these boxes had been made in the US? It's not like we had no inclination this was coming. After the switch... say 6 months down the road, will the converter boxes be 4 for a buck @ the Dollar store? Nah... that may be a year away. I believe in technological advancement, wholeheartedly... but if you literally force me to part with my cash, I'd like the complete story.

Somebody fact link to the true reason of this expensive endeavor?
Abby89

Troy, MI

#14 Jan 7, 2009
Well i'll say i have to agree with Donna, not everyone can afford or know how to work new technology. You have to think about people from the older generations..many do not know how to work new technology..most cannot afford it either...Putting an experation date is not fair when annoucing nothing to the public about it. Now days for some everything is last minute things. I do know a few people who are upset about not being more informed about this experation date...and who said anything about feel good programs and hand outs...Every likes to watch T.V.
Michigan Mommy

Indianapolis, IN

#15 Jan 7, 2009
A couple comments.

I received my coupons a few days ago. They have a "valid through" date stamped very clearly right on them. Walmart sells the converters for $50 so that means I will only be paying $10 out of pocket per unit. I'm pretty poor but even I think that's a reasonable cost. If you missed the coupon expiration date, that's just bad planning on YOUR part. It gives you THREE months.

Second.... You may not need a converter box if you have cable or dish but unless I owned at least one new digital TV, I would want to have a converter box available in case of emergency. I don't have cable or dish but my in-laws do and every time it storms, their dish goes out. Come February, they won't be able to watch anything during those times, not even important weather updates, news, etc because their dish will be out and they don't have a newer TV. Just something to think about..........
snomad

Hudsonville, MI

#16 Jan 7, 2009
Michigan Mommy wrote:
A couple comments.
I received my coupons a few days ago. They have a "valid through" date stamped very clearly right on them. Walmart sells the converters for $50 so that means I will only be paying $10 out of pocket per unit. I'm pretty poor but even I think that's a reasonable cost. If you missed the coupon expiration date, that's just bad planning on YOUR part. It gives you THREE months.
Second.... You may not need a converter box if you have cable or dish but unless I owned at least one new digital TV, I would want to have a converter box available in case of emergency. I don't have cable or dish but my in-laws do and every time it storms, their dish goes out. Come February, they won't be able to watch anything during those times, not even important weather updates, news, etc because their dish will be out and they don't have a newer TV. Just something to think about..........
I agree, 10 bucks is very reasonable. My concern is: Who is picking up the other $40 and how much of the $50 stays in the US?
Donna

Troy, MI

#17 Jan 8, 2009
Man, my reason for being pissed off is soooo
simply? MY coupons have an expiration date of
12-o5-08. I have two sitting in front of me.
So, the funds are not depleted, that just are
sitting here not being able to be used. How many
people are in my situation, they have the funds,
but can't use them!! So, for all the people in my
situation. After February 9th, the unused funds will
still be in the hands of the government, but tied
up by those who have coupons that expired. It's a
set up deal, just like everything else they DO, so
givingly to us. They will never give anything to
us,without getting more in return. I'm not so concerned for myself, and watching TV, but there
are those who won't be able to afford it without
the coupon!!! The transition is EASY to figure out,
it's just the way they go about the whole thing,and
anything they do for us.
Donna

Troy, MI

#18 Jan 8, 2009
Dear Michigan MOMMY, it wasn't bad planning on my
part! I obviously planned way before you!!!!!!
The Binkman

Grandville, MI

#19 Jan 8, 2009
dtv, whats that??????????
John Q Public

Ann Arbor, MI

#20 Jan 8, 2009
snomad wrote:
LOL
WOOD & WZZM are gonna be sure you don't lose their ADVERTISING signal. Pump that digital reminder out every 10 minutes... like we are a bunch of kindergartners. Uh... duh... Antenna need box or no worky. Coupons... they ought to be giving the boxes away. Still costs $20 of my cash and a chunk paid by whom?
Reminds me... just what is the reason/benefit for going all digital? Picture/sound clarity... or are we so bombarded by an array of invisible waves, this is a health benefit... or security issue? Who is subsidizing the coupon cost? Taxpayers? Who is getting compensation (w/coupon flip) for converter sales? China?/Mexico?/Japan?
Could not all these boxes had been made in the US? It's not like we had no inclination this was coming. After the switch... say 6 months down the road, will the converter boxes be 4 for a buck @ the Dollar store? Nah... that may be a year away. I believe in technological advancement, wholeheartedly... but if you literally force me to part with my cash, I'd like the complete story.
Somebody fact link to the true reason of this expensive endeavor?
Why are we switching to DTV?

An important benefit of the switch to all-digital broadcasting is that it will free up parts of the valuable broadcast spectrum for public safety communications (such as police, fire departments, and rescue squads). Also, some of the spectrum will be auctioned to companies that will be able to provide consumers with more advanced wireless services (such as wireless broadband).

Consumers also benefit because digital broadcasting allows stations to offer improved picture and sound quality, and digital is much more efficient than analog. For example, rather than being limited to providing one analog program, a broadcaster is able to offer a super sharp “high definition”(HD) digital program or multiple “standard definition”(SD) digital programs simultaneously through a process called “multicasting.” Multicasting allows broadcast stations to offer several channels of digital programming at the same time, using the same amount of spectrum required for one analog program. So, for example, while a station broadcasting in analog on channel 7 is only able to offer viewers one program, a station broadcasting in digital on channel 7 can offer viewers one digital program on channel 7-1, a second digital program on channel 7-2, a third digital program on channel 7-3, and so on. This means more programming choices for viewers.

http://www.dtv.gov/consumercorner.html

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