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Liberty University Law School Dean: Gay Marriage is 'Beginning...

There are 311 comments on the Cybercast News Service story from Aug 5, 2014, titled Liberty University Law School Dean: Gay Marriage is 'Beginning.... In it, Cybercast News Service reports that:

Mathew D. Staver, dean of the Liberty University School of Law, said that efforts to change the definition of marriage to include same-sex "marriage" would be like trying to re-define the law of gravity, adding that, if it were tried, it would mark "the beginning of the end of Western civilization."

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Latter Day Taints

Philadelphia, PA

#107 Aug 7, 2014
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>You're still a hate filled bigot. Just because I suggest a solution you accuse me of being something I am not. I don't fit into any of the descriptions you out line......
You have been systematically arguing for lesser civil rights in this non theocracy for lgbt people, and you have been systematically lying about that fact and every other one.

But I love when stinking, lying bigots begin to weep how _they_ are the victims of bigotry. Keep it up - you will find yourselves increasingly shunned by educated society, if not overtly disfranchsied.
Latter Day Taints

Philadelphia, PA

#108 Aug 7, 2014
lgbt is silly wrote:
<quoted text>
Marriage, the abolition of marriage is what we’re facing right now
Apparently the legal recognition of same sex marriage is going to make every or most every heterosexual stop marrying members of the opposite sex.

That's the only way this "abolition of marriage" argument makes any internal sense.

Guess they weren't exactly secure in their heterosexuality to begin with....

More likely, though, it's just another insane "argument" that will continue to be laughed out of court.

“Common sense prevails.”

Since: Mar 14

3rd rock from the sun.

#109 Aug 7, 2014
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>That would be up to Congress to make that change. Me myself and I.... Something like "Domestic Union" might be appropriate...... According to my past exposure to another thread "Civil Union" was thought to be offensive to another militant.......
Doesn't matter what YOU want to call it, "separate but equal" doesn't work, it's already been tried in this country and was a disaster.

In states that originally tried Civil Unions found out that the insurance companies immediately dropped the benefits of civil unions because they weren't marriage and so on and so on. It's marriage, so call it marriage. You can define your own marriage any way you wish, allow others the same respect.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#110 Aug 7, 2014
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
He is right about the definition of "marriage". Words mean things. That being said, a State contract to facilitate legal access to make decisions as a couple is up to the individual State. The US Constitution does not make such contracts part of the Federal govt........
You're delusional.

AMENDMENT IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

How about we talk about the immigration problem.

A guy smuggles in illegals. He gets caught. He then offers his daughters for gang rape to get out of trouble. After he leaves the city he gets drunk in a cave and has sex with his daughters.

That's the morality tale of Lot.

Why is Lot a hero and all these illegals are the bad guys?

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#111 Aug 7, 2014
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>The Courts are only putting cases to the test of Constitutionality of the laws passed in the Country Sweetheart...... If you remember your govt classes, the legislative branch in the federal govt passes laws..... They do not issue licenses. The States do...... There has been no violation of rights by the States since the people decide what happens in their State. Marriage is not necessarily a right, if it were then brothers and sisters could marry as well as any other family combination...... That said, the word Marriage means something. It has been defined and, as I mentioned, it means things...... Now, to my point. The license issued by the State can be renamed for all citizens who want a legal device to take care of peoples home as intended. The word marriage should not be used by the State. The word marriage should be used by those who follow their faith in the venue they are accustom...... Now I know there are religious Gays out there and that relationship between them and their church or synagog is up to their congregation...... See? No violation of rights....... The separation of church and state remains sound.......
West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette 1943 (SCOTUS Majority Opinion)
"The very purpose of a Bill of Rights was to withdraw certain subjects from the vicissitudes of political controversy, to place them beyond the reach of majorities and officials and to establish them as legal principles to be applied by the courts. One's right to life, liberty, and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections.”

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#112 Aug 7, 2014
lgbt is silly wrote:
<quoted text>
Quote:
"Staver continued,“It doesn’t matter how many opinions or how many votes you have for that, you can’t change God’s natural created order. Marriage, the abolition of marriage is what we’re facing right now, is literally an abolishing of gender. We’ve never been in this situation before. We will not be able to escape the coercive nature of this issue. It is cataclysmic in its change-effect.”
“It is, I believe, ultimately the beginning of the end of Western civilization, if we adopt this as a country,” said Staver."
For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. Colossians 1:16

There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28

Is the Dean saying the Bible is WRONG?

Are YOU saying the Bible is wrong?

“Common sense prevails.”

Since: Mar 14

3rd rock from the sun.

#113 Aug 7, 2014
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>Look folks, another bigoted hater....... I have it on good authority that Harvey Milk and Jeffery Dalhmer are room mates and they prefer that satan doesn't lube on his trident when they get violated...;. How's that? Did that pass the smel....er..... outrageous test????
And here you say you are only interested in the naming of gay unions and whether to call them marriage or whatever.

Finally your true colors come shining through.

C'est la vie.
Dr X

Littleton, CO

#114 Aug 7, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>You're delusional.
AMENDMENT IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
How about we talk about the immigration problem.
A guy smuggles in illegals. He gets caught. He then offers his daughters for gang rape to get out of trouble. After he leaves the city he gets drunk in a cave and has sex with his daughters.
That's the morality tale of Lot.
Why is Lot a hero and all these illegals are the bad guys?
Lot a hero? And Illegals are technically, by definition, breaking the law which makes them the "bad guys"...by definition. If we're going to pick and choose which laws we follow then I guess we'll have anarchy.
Dr X

Littleton, CO

#115 Aug 7, 2014
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
OF COURSE its the end of Western Civilization!
.
We're living in The Brave New World
.
We call it 'Change We Can Believe In'
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/theori...
I call it a recipe for civil war.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#116 Aug 7, 2014
Dr X wrote:
<quoted text>Lot a hero? And Illegals are technically, by definition, breaking the law which makes them the "bad guys"...by definition. If we're going to pick and choose which laws we follow then I guess we'll have anarchy.
agreed. Which is why I don't see the point of "religious exemptions" in a country where the law is supposed to apply equally to everyone.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#117 Aug 7, 2014
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right,‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him,‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply,‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left,‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer,‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply,‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

I hope the Dean has a "get out of hell free" card.
Dr X

Littleton, CO

#118 Aug 7, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>agreed. Which is why I don't see the point of "religious exemptions" in a country where the law is supposed to apply equally to everyone.
It's a Catch-22. On one hand, you could argue that the law applies to everyone equally across the board thus rendering religious exemptions DOA. But part of the "equal" part of our nation's law is that it permits the freedom of religion and that of certain religious beliefs. Case in point is ongoing in Colorado where, as you know, a judge has ordered a baker to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple even though it's against the bakers religious beliefs. So, what's the answer? It could be argued that the baker is ignoring the rights of the gay couple and that, in doing so, he's violating the Constitution. It can also be argued that it is the baker who's rights are being infringed upon because he's being ordered to do something that is clearly against his personal faith. I see a dangerous trend here. I can foresee the day when religion, in general, is deemed too much of a burden on society and thus is cast away indefinitely. We know what happens after that...don't we?
Really

Wyoming, MI

#120 Aug 8, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>You're delusional.
AMENDMENT IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
How about we talk about the immigration problem.
A guy smuggles in illegals. He gets caught. He then offers his daughters for gang rape to get out of trouble. After he leaves the city he gets drunk in a cave and has sex with his daughters.
That's the morality tale of Lot.
Why is Lot a hero and all these illegals are the bad guys?
Wow! the delusional one would be you. however, please continue as your argument only makes your views more ridiculous to someone with critical thinking skills.
Really

Wyoming, MI

#121 Aug 8, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. Colossians 1:16
There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28
Is the Dean saying the Bible is WRONG?
Are YOU saying the Bible is wrong?
No, the only wrong being committed is when people take things out of context to make their point. Even Satan knows the scriptures and uses them for his own purposes. Try looking up what happened to the Roman Empire and the Greeks when they allowed unbridled sexuality to rule the day AND allowed the minorities to rule the day.

Since: Aug 14

Kuwait, Kuwait

#122 Aug 8, 2014
i want to unsatisfied marred woman delhi
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Royal Oak, MI

#123 Aug 8, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
FLUSHED
NEXT
You forgot the snap, we need the snap!

Since you like to stereotype.......
Shirvel s Shrivel

Philadelphia, PA

#124 Aug 8, 2014
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>That would be up to Congress to make that change. Me myself and I.... Something like "Domestic Union" might be appropriate...... According to my past exposure to another thread "Civil Union" was thought to be offensive to another militant.......
Hey you stupid, lying bigot, then you christianist trash may have "civil unions" instead of marriage.

You won't qualify for any federal benefits of marriage, and you won't be "married" when you travel to other countries, but since you like to treat others as less than then following the golden rule you won't mind being treated as less than yourself.
Shirvel s Shrivel

Philadelphia, PA

#125 Aug 8, 2014
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>You're still a hate filled bigot. Just because I suggest a solution you accuse me of being something I am not. I don't fit into any of the descriptions you out line......
You are a lying and self deluded bigot. You have opposed every advance of equal rights for lgbt people, not just marriage equality.

The "solution" you suggest is less than. It is the definition of bigotry. The only thing is you think your bigotry is perfectly justifiable...since you equally try to bar the divorced, the adulterous, the covetous from marrying and equal civil rights.

Oh wait, you don't do that. Because this is all about your psychosexual problem with variations in sexual orientation.
Shirvel s Shrivel

Philadelphia, PA

#126 Aug 8, 2014
Really wrote:
<quoted text>No, the only wrong being committed is when people take things out of context to make their point. Even Satan knows the scriptures and uses them for his own purposes. Try looking up what happened to the Roman Empire and the Greeks when they allowed unbridled sexuality to rule the day AND allowed the minorities to rule the day.
You don't follow scripture. You pick and choose. You're not always crowing about how unrepentant coveters are bringing down empires. You don't want divorce outlawed. You (possibly) don't support slavery.

You don't know what causality means; you have no idea that "unbridled sexuality" is what cause various empires to recede.(And they all do.)

You aren't barring the equal civil rights of the "sexually unbridled," you are opposing the equal civil rights of lgbt people. Go and similarly rail against and take equal rights from heterosexual adulterers and then we'll know you don't just have a mental disorder of homophobic obsession.

Liar.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

South Lyon, MI

#127 Aug 8, 2014
Shirvel s Shrivel wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a lying and self deluded bigot. You have opposed every advance of equal rights for lgbt people, not just marriage equality.
The "solution" you suggest is less than. It is the definition of bigotry. The only thing is you think your bigotry is perfectly justifiable...since you equally try to bar the divorced, the adulterous, the covetous from marrying and equal civil rights.
Oh wait, you don't do that. Because this is all about your psychosexual problem with variations in sexual orientation.
Should I call the fire department?..... Your hair is on fire...... You are such a bigot...... I didn't say that you should not have equal rights..... I merely had suggested a way for society to accept a secular solution without the drama you display now..... You are out there in your bigotry...... By the looks of it, you may have bigger issues you are fighting in your personal life. Better sort that out.......

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