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throw him out

Encino, CA

#1 Mar 18, 2010
The Constitution reference to offenses deemed to be impeachable:
Article II, Section 4
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office or Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Bribery
•the practice of offering something in order to gain an illicit advantage
•Bribery, a form of pecuniary corruption, is an act implying money or gift given that alters the behavior of the recipient.
•the making of illegal payment, or bribes, to persons in official positions as a means of influencing their decisions
•make illegal payments to in exchange for favors or influence;
•payment made to a person in a position of trust to corrupt his judgment or given in exchange for influence or as an inducement to dishonesty;
•the offering, giving, receiving, or soliciting of something of value for the purpose of influencing the action of an official.

Treason
•a crime that undermines the offender's government
•disloyalty by virtue of subversive behavior
•treachery: an act of deliberate betrayal
•In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of disloyalty to one's sovereign or nation....
•The crime of betraying one’s government;
•A violation of allegiance toward one's countryespecially when this violation endangers the country or assists its enemies.
•the betrayal of one's country.

Treason and bribery are understood concepts, but "high crimes and misdemeanors" are open to interpretation. Constitutional scholars have argued that only criminal offenses meet that standard, but others have maintained that a simple breach of the public trust is sufficient. Some of the Framers urged that "maladministration" be added to the list of impeachable offenses.

Maladministration:
•describes the actions of a government body which can be seen as causing an injustice.
•faulty, inefficient or improper management or administration, especially by a government body

I'm just sayin
St Stephen

Milwaukee, WI

#2 Mar 18, 2010
throw him out wrote:
I'm just sayin
What are you sayin? Throw who out? If you go by your post every politician in Washington should be thrown out.

Since: Oct 08

Jackson, MI

#3 Mar 18, 2010
St Stephen wrote:
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What are you sayin? Throw who out? If you go by your post every politician in Washington should be thrown out.
And all that preceded current administration ...

“Really? I mean, REAAALLLYY???”

Since: Nov 08

Cedar Springs, MI

#4 Mar 18, 2010
Don't impeach him. The longer he's in office, the more democrats get kicked out of office...
Man With A Big Truck

Sterling, VA

#5 Mar 18, 2010
Maybe D.C will get struck by a comet, then we all win!
Bob

Hudsonville, MI

#6 Mar 18, 2010
Sorry its too late, Dubyah is already home in Texas.
Mark

Kalamazoo, MI

#7 Mar 18, 2010
St Stephen wrote:
<quoted text>
What are you sayin? Throw who out? If you go by your post every politician in Washington should be thrown out.
IMHO, that would be a great place to start

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#9 Mar 18, 2010
Get over it, we didn't impeach Bush/Cheney did we?
throw him out wrote:
The Constitution reference to offenses deemed to be impeachable:
Article II, Section 4
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office or Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Bribery
•the practice of offering something in order to gain an illicit advantage
•Bribery, a form of pecuniary corruption, is an act implying money or gift given that alters the behavior of the recipient.
•the making of illegal payment, or bribes, to persons in official positions as a means of influencing their decisions
•make illegal payments to in exchange for favors or influence;
•payment made to a person in a position of trust to corrupt his judgment or given in exchange for influence or as an inducement to dishonesty;
•the offering, giving, receiving, or soliciting of something of value for the purpose of influencing the action of an official.
Treason
•a crime that undermines the offender's government
•disloyalty by virtue of subversive behavior
•treachery: an act of deliberate betrayal
•In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of disloyalty to one's sovereign or nation....
•The crime of betraying one’s government;
•A violation of allegiance toward one's countryespecially when this violation endangers the country or assists its enemies.
•the betrayal of one's country.
Treason and bribery are understood concepts, but "high crimes and misdemeanors" are open to interpretation. Constitutional scholars have argued that only criminal offenses meet that standard, but others have maintained that a simple breach of the public trust is sufficient. Some of the Framers urged that "maladministration" be added to the list of impeachable offenses.
Maladministration:
•describes the actions of a government body which can be seen as causing an injustice.
•faulty, inefficient or improper management or administration, especially by a government body
I'm just sayin

Since: Sep 08

Hudsonville, MI

#10 Mar 18, 2010
throw him out wrote:
The Constitution reference to offenses deemed to be impeachable:
Article II, Section 4
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office or Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Bribery
•the practice of offering something in order to gain an illicit advantage
•Bribery, a form of pecuniary corruption, is an act implying money or gift given that alters the behavior of the recipient.
•the making of illegal payment, or bribes, to persons in official positions as a means of influencing their decisions
•make illegal payments to in exchange for favors or influence;
•payment made to a person in a position of trust to corrupt his judgment or given in exchange for influence or as an inducement to dishonesty;
•the offering, giving, receiving, or soliciting of something of value for the purpose of influencing the action of an official.
Treason
•a crime that undermines the offender's government
•disloyalty by virtue of subversive behavior
•treachery: an act of deliberate betrayal
•In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of disloyalty to one's sovereign or nation....
•The crime of betraying one’s government;
•A violation of allegiance toward one's countryespecially when this violation endangers the country or assists its enemies.
•the betrayal of one's country.
Treason and bribery are understood concepts, but "high crimes and misdemeanors" are open to interpretation. Constitutional scholars have argued that only criminal offenses meet that standard, but others have maintained that a simple breach of the public trust is sufficient. Some of the Framers urged that "maladministration" be added to the list of impeachable offenses.
Maladministration:
•describes the actions of a government body which can be seen as causing an injustice.
•faulty, inefficient or improper management or administration, especially by a government body
I'm just sayin
Pure poop.
4 Swampers

Tampa, FL

#11 Mar 18, 2010
Can we bring back the ancient penalty of draw and quartering for those who are treasonous? It could be done live on pay per view with the proceeds going to the Haitian relief fund.
Lakeshore

Grand Haven, MI

#13 Mar 19, 2010
I think the "Comet" thing is a win/win situation.

I also think that BO should be kicked out of office.

“Dude, Where's my car?”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#14 Mar 19, 2010
Every Two years the voters have the right to fire 1/3 of all the Senators and ALL of the House yet politician's are still "Retiring" from Congress! The mentality in this country seems to be "My Representative/Senator is just fine, it's Your's who is the problem". I doubt anything will change in this country until we the people decide to change politicians.

“Don't touch my junk man!”

Since: Nov 07

Middle of the Mitten, Michigan

#15 Mar 19, 2010
Hurley35 wrote:
Every Two years the voters have the right to fire 1/3 of all the Senators and ALL of the House yet politician's are still "Retiring" from Congress! The mentality in this country seems to be "My Representative/Senator is just fine, it's Your's who is the problem". I doubt anything will change in this country until we the people decide to change politicians.
And implement term limits. Sorry Hurley, I know you're not a fan, but I think it's absolutely necessary to limit the exposure these politicians have to the toxic cesspool called DC.

“Dude, Where's my car?”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#16 Mar 19, 2010
Ms Angie wrote:
<quoted text>
And implement term limits. Sorry Hurley, I know you're not a fan, but I think it's absolutely necessary to limit the exposure these politicians have to the toxic cesspool called DC.
You're right. I'm not a big fan of term limits but perhaps they are necessary. All I see Term Limits doing though are shuffling around the same old politicians. They work in the State House for two terms, then go two terms in the State Senate, then move on a to a House or Senate job in Washington. And the kicker is they collect a Pension and life-time health benefits for life, for EACH position!

“Don't touch my junk man!”

Since: Nov 07

Middle of the Mitten, Michigan

#17 Mar 19, 2010
Hurley35 wrote:
<quoted text>You're right. I'm not a big fan of term limits but perhaps they are necessary. All I see Term Limits doing though are shuffling around the same old politicians. They work in the State House for two terms, then go two terms in the State Senate, then move on a to a House or Senate job in Washington. And the kicker is they collect a Pension and life-time health benefits for life, for EACH position!
Yeah, yuck. I can see that being a concern. Perhaps included in the term limit legislation we make sure what you say here is something they can't do. Our forefathers did not have career politicians in mind when they founded this country.

Actually when I think about it we need to heavily emphasize the word SERVICE when it comes to political service. These pensions and life long benefits are no longer available to the regular working Joe, they shouldn't be available for our politicians either.

I also think that more higher quality work would be done if each representative worked from his own home state. Technology is good enough now we don't need them wallowing in the streets of DC compounding each others corruption with even more corruption.

Since: Oct 08

Jackson, MI

#18 Mar 19, 2010
Ms Angie wrote:
<quoted text>
And implement term limits. Sorry Hurley, I know you're not a fan, but I think it's absolutely necessary to limit the exposure these politicians have to the toxic cesspool called DC.
Term limits are in place ... vote the suckers out ... people are just too fascinated with pulling the REP or DEM lever to keep their party in office, regardless of consequences ...

“Don't touch my junk man!”

Since: Nov 07

Middle of the Mitten, Michigan

#19 Mar 22, 2010
Over 50 wrote:
<quoted text>
Term limits are in place ... vote the suckers out ... people are just too fascinated with pulling the REP or DEM lever to keep their party in office, regardless of consequences ...
Yes, that combined with an intense lack of concern or attention when it comes to what those said politicians with the D or the R next to their name do while in office are the big problems.

I'm sorry, but without actual enforced term limits you'll have too many people pulling the lever because they recognize the name of the incumbent in office.
Big Guy

South Boardman, MI

#20 Mar 22, 2010
4 Swampers wrote:
Can we bring back the ancient penalty of draw and quartering for those who are treasonous? It could be done live on pay per view with the proceeds going to the Haitian relief fund.
Your a nut case.

“Smells like 1994!”

Since: Jun 08

Stately Wayne Manor

#21 Mar 22, 2010
throw him out wrote:
The Constitution reference to offenses deemed to be impeachable:
Article II, Section 4
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office or Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Bribery
•the practice of offering something in order to gain an illicit advantage
•Bribery, a form of pecuniary corruption, is an act implying money or gift given that alters the behavior of the recipient.
•the making of illegal payment, or bribes, to persons in official positions as a means of influencing their decisions
•make illegal payments to in exchange for favors or influence;
•payment made to a person in a position of trust to corrupt his judgment or given in exchange for influence or as an inducement to dishonesty;
•the offering, giving, receiving, or soliciting of something of value for the purpose of influencing the action of an official.
Treason
•a crime that undermines the offender's government
•disloyalty by virtue of subversive behavior
•treachery: an act of deliberate betrayal
•In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of disloyalty to one's sovereign or nation....
•The crime of betraying one’s government;
•A violation of allegiance toward one's countryespecially when this violation endangers the country or assists its enemies.
•the betrayal of one's country.
Treason and bribery are understood concepts, but "high crimes and misdemeanors" are open to interpretation. Constitutional scholars have argued that only criminal offenses meet that standard, but others have maintained that a simple breach of the public trust is sufficient. Some of the Framers urged that "maladministration" be added to the list of impeachable offenses.
Maladministration:
•describes the actions of a government body which can be seen as causing an injustice.
•faulty, inefficient or improper management or administration, especially by a government body
I'm just sayin
The whole "impeachment" issue is becoming tiresome. I'm not a fan of the guy but he is the President which means he's my President. I don't think he's committing any impeachable offenses just as I don't think Bush or Clinton did either. As a conservative, I never thought that what Clinton did was worthy of the impeachment proceedings.
There are consequences to elections and the power will switch back and forth as long as our nation exists. I think that more gets accomplished in our country, for the good of all, when one party controls Congress and the other party controls the White House. If November shakes out like I think that it will, Obama will do a "Bill Clinton" and shift to the center in order to accomplish things. Maybe we can start paying off our debt?

Since: Apr 09

Wyoming

#22 Mar 22, 2010

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