vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#246 Oct 13, 2013
Bob wrote:
Did you happen to notice that Herr Rob has changed the very principles that this country was founded on?
So has Obama but I don't hear you squealing like a little girl over that.
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#247 Oct 13, 2013
pipedream wrote:
Rob boy is a freak show.
And you are a carbuncle on the buttocks of your community.
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#248 Oct 13, 2013
pipedream wrote:
Go ahead, ROFLYBO all day long a$$Hole. You're the only one who looks stupid on this one.
Oh, I'm laughing, all right. You look stupid 24/7, you senile old goat.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#249 Oct 13, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
Odd that you failed to mention anywhere that the democraps were notified by the DOD and did or said NOTHING about it also. Or did you just "forget"???
If the democraps knew, why didn't they say anything?? Please explain.
Why would DoD have discussions with the Democrats? Top dog in the GOP controlled House is none other than John Boner. He and the t-baggers he answers to run the show. Even if DoD had included Pelosi or Democrats in the discussions (and I'm not saying she wasn't), but even if she had, what was she to do? What authority did Pelosi have to fix the situation? Was she to have over rode Boner and call a vote? The GOP Leadership, specifically your man John Boner, is responsible for that however his people were too busy trying to defund Obamacare to pay any attention or care about anything else. And guess what? It came back to bite them in the a$$. And guess what else? People aren't going to forget about that come 2014.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#250 Oct 13, 2013
pipedream wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would DoD have discussions with the Democrats? Top dog in the GOP controlled House is none other than John Boner. He and the t-baggers he answers to run the show. Even if DoD had included Pelosi or Democrats in the discussions (and I'm not saying she wasn't), but even if she had, what was she to do? What authority did Pelosi have to fix the situation? Was she to have over rode Boner and call a vote? The GOP Leadership, specifically your man John Boner, is responsible for that however his people were too busy trying to defund Obamacare to pay any attention or care about anything else. And guess what? It came back to bite them in the a$$. And guess what else? People aren't going to forget about that come 2014.
So now you are saying only the "top dogs" are included in such information?

Are you totally nuts or are you just acting like you are??

Why would any group or party be excluded from such important information?

You've lost this one pipester...admit it and move on.

Each post you reply to me seems weaker and weaker as you slowly sink into total submission as you try to back pedal your way out of what was a total lie. Your attempt to blame only the GOP is a total failure.

How foolish you must be feeling right now....
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#251 Oct 13, 2013
nope didn't say only the top dogs were included, nor did I say anyone was excluded. What I said was the House GOP leadership, having been fully informed by DoD regarding the effects of the govt. shut down failed to address the problems concerning payment of death gratuities. Responsibility for doing so falls on the GOP leadership, specifically Speaker Boner since the GOP are the majority party. If the GOP had acted to correct the problem prior to it becoming an issue, there would not have been an issue. So Wiggles, you are the one looking stupid. Quit trying to spin this into something its not.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#252 Oct 13, 2013
pipedream wrote:
nope didn't say only the top dogs were included, nor did I say anyone was excluded. What I said was the House GOP leadership, having been fully informed by DoD regarding the effects of the govt. shut down failed to address the problems concerning payment of death gratuities. Responsibility for doing so falls on the GOP leadership, specifically Speaker Boner since the GOP are the majority party. If the GOP had acted to correct the problem prior to it becoming an issue, there would not have been an issue. So Wiggles, you are the one looking stupid. Quit trying to spin this into something its not.
So we have come full circle.
My only question was ans still is why did the DOD only (according to you) inform the GOP of the problem? Or better still, if the democrats were also informed, why did they not say anything or raise a red flag?

How about a straight answer...either the democrats were not told or...they also ignored the information.

Which is it??
Really

Wyoming, MI

#253 Oct 13, 2013
pipedream wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would DoD have discussions with the Democrats? Top dog in the GOP controlled House is none other than John Boner. He and the t-baggers he answers to run the show. Even if DoD had included Pelosi or Democrats in the discussions (and I'm not saying she wasn't), but even if she had, what was she to do? What authority did Pelosi have to fix the situation? Was she to have over rode Boner and call a vote? The GOP Leadership, specifically your man John Boner, is responsible for that however his people were too busy trying to defund Obamacare to pay any attention or care about anything else. And guess what? It came back to bite them in the a$$. And guess what else? People aren't going to forget about that come 2014.
Ummmm.....you apparently are unaware that the Tea Party is NOT the majority of the House? Of course you are, why else would you keep whining and crying like the baby you are about a group that doesn't hold the majority of votes by anyone's stretch of the imagination? Oh,trust me, the American people are going to remember a whole lot come 2014. And your man Obama is not going to be remembered fondly by lots of folks.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#254 Oct 13, 2013
Do you have something that says the democrats did not raise a red flag? How do you know that the dem leadership, specifically Pelosi and/or Hoyer, or anyone else, either D or R, upon learning that the DoD could not or would not pay death gratuities did NOT address their concerns with the GOP leadership? You don't have anything do you Wiggles? All YOU have is spin because if you had something, you would have brought it forward. Which party shut down the Govt wiggles? And as Speaker, what are Boehner's responsibilities and duties? You're not going to deny that the GOP leadership were not fully appraised by DoD of the effects of the shutdown, specifically with regard to death gratuities are you?
Dr X

Byron Center, MI

#255 Oct 13, 2013
pipedream wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would DoD have discussions with the Democrats? Top dog in the GOP controlled House is none other than John Boner. He and the t-baggers he answers to run the show. Even if DoD had included Pelosi or Democrats in the discussions (and I'm not saying she wasn't), but even if she had, what was she to do? What authority did Pelosi have to fix the situation? Was she to have over rode Boner and call a vote? The GOP Leadership, specifically your man John Boner, is responsible for that however his people were too busy trying to defund Obamacare to pay any attention or care about anything else. And guess what? It came back to bite them in the a$$. And guess what else? People aren't going to forget about that come 2014.
The progressives always try and deflect their failures by pointing their boney finger at the other side of the aisle. By the way, when AHCA starts ruining peoples lives then it will be you democrat morons who will get 100% of the blame. The people will also remember that it was the Republicans who fought it. Translation? AHCA=NO HOUSE TAKEOVER+LOSS OF SENATE+LOSS OF WHITE HOUSE IN 2016. Good bye dems. The British Parliament has some openings I hear.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#256 Oct 13, 2013
Eric Cantor Given Total Control of House In late Night Rule Change on Sep. 30, 2013

H.Res 368. changed standing rules of the House and prevents any member of the House except Eric Cantor or his designee of calling up or offering the Senate Bill to Re-open the Government

Video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Democracy has been suspended.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#257 Oct 13, 2013
http://rules.house.gov/sites/republicans.rule...

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hre...

Text of House Resolution 368

H. Res. 368

In the House of Representatives, U. S.,

October 1 (legislative day, September 30), 2013.

Resolved, That the House hereby (1) takes from the Speaker’s table the joint resolution (H.J. Res. 59) making continuing appropriations for fiscal year 2014, and for other purposes, with the House amendment to the Senate amendment thereto,(2) insists on its amendment, and (3) requests a conference with the Senate thereon.

Sec. 2. Any motion pursuant to clause 4 of rule XXII relating to House Joint Resolution 59 may be offered only by the Majority Leader or his designee.

Attest:

Clerk.
Dr X

Byron Center, MI

#258 Oct 13, 2013
Going to bed now but before I go.....

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/13/we...
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#259 Oct 13, 2013
Rules Committee Hearing on H.J. Resolution 59 Continuing Appropriations Resolution 2014 - Senate Amendment III

Pete Sessions R-Chairman

Video

http://rules.house.gov/video/rules-committee-...

Proves the alholery that took place late Sep. 30, 2013 in the Rules Committee Hearing concerning the Continuing Appropriations Resolution 2014.

Take note of Pete Sessions demeanor during this hearing and his explanation as to why the GOP changed standing rules to rig the govt. shutdown.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#260 Oct 13, 2013
Dr X wrote:
Going to bed now but before I go.....
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/13/we...
Million Vet March Organizers Condemn Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, and the Tea Party

The tea party, Sarah Palin, and Ted Cruz tried to hijack the Million Vet March for political and personal gain, and event organizers condemned them for politicizing the march.

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/10/13/millio...

Palin, Cruz and T-baggers can be seen turning the march into HATE OBAMA. The police would have been justified in locking them all up.

According to a message on the Million Vet March website, the problem began when a local DC organizer turned the march into a tea party rally,“The political agenda put forth by a local organizer in Washington DC was not in alignment with our message. We feel disheartened that some would seek to hijack the narrative for political gain. The core principle is about all Americans honoring Veterans in a peaceful and apolitical manner.”

Sassy

Byron Center, MI

#261 Oct 13, 2013
pipedream wrote:
<quoted text>
Million Vet March Organizers Condemn Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, and the Tea Party
The tea party, Sarah Palin, and Ted Cruz tried to hijack the Million Vet March for political and personal gain, and event organizers condemned them for politicizing the march.
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/10/13/millio...
Palin, Cruz and T-baggers can be seen turning the march into HATE OBAMA. The police would have been justified in locking them all up.
According to a message on the Million Vet March website, the problem began when a local DC organizer turned the march into a tea party rally,“The political agenda put forth by a local organizer in Washington DC was not in alignment with our message. We feel disheartened that some would seek to hijack the narrative for political gain. The core principle is about all Americans honoring Veterans in a peaceful and apolitical manner.”
You use politicususa.com as a source? That is the most communist news site on the web by far with the most anarchist buffoons for readership ever encountered. The vets are with us, not you. That will be readily apparent after the first shots are fired dickhead. I used to be a liberal progressive but now I see that I've been supporting evil and I will no longer believe the lies. I'm sorry guys but I can't be a liberal progressive anymore after finding out what that meant.
Phil

Oxford, MI

#262 Oct 14, 2013
Sassy wrote:
<quoted text>You use politicususa.com as a source? That is the most communist news site on the web by far with the most anarchist buffoons for readership ever encountered. The vets are with us, not you. That will be readily apparent after the first shots are fired dickhead. I used to be a liberal progressive but now I see that I've been supporting evil and I will no longer believe the lies. I'm sorry guys but I can't be a liberal progressive anymore after finding out what that meant.
Don't be sorry, be proud! Better late than never.
Really

Wyoming, MI

#263 Oct 14, 2013
pipedream wrote:
<quoted text>
Million Vet March Organizers Condemn Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, and the Tea Party
The tea party, Sarah Palin, and Ted Cruz tried to hijack the Million Vet March for political and personal gain, and event organizers condemned them for politicizing the march.
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/10/13/millio...
Palin, Cruz and T-baggers can be seen turning the march into HATE OBAMA. The police would have been justified in locking them all up.
According to a message on the Million Vet March website, the problem began when a local DC organizer turned the march into a tea party rally,“The political agenda put forth by a local organizer in Washington DC was not in alignment with our message. We feel disheartened that some would seek to hijack the narrative for political gain. The core principle is about all Americans honoring Veterans in a peaceful and apolitical manner.”
Once again, according to pipester and his/her merry band of fools, free speech is only for those who agree with Obama. No one else can have free speech. doesn't work that way pipester and it is truly sad that you and others haven't figured that out.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#264 Oct 14, 2013
Phil wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you for real? He left that message like 3 days ago. But then again nobody here ever accused you of being quick thinking. Without our military we would not be free people. Maybe you should study some history and find out how many times the United States was challenged. If you don't know the basics then we can't help your dumb ass
Sorry, I didn't know there was a time limit to respond.......

Does that same rule apply to history too, because I'm only familiar with that "of the people, by the people, and for the people" thing. I can't remember when the country switched over to a militaristic society.

If it was more than three days ago, I'm screwed!
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#265 Oct 14, 2013
vox veritatis wrote:
<quoted text>
So has Obama but I don't hear you squealing like a little girl over that.
I'll bet there was a REALLY interesting news article about that, but I won't bother to ask for a link!

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