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#43 Dec 9, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>Did you look at Priority Health's website? That is the website he quoted. You are real quick to call everyone a liar without putting up your own proof. Just sayin'
He posted numbers that are literally illegal under the ACA.

He said it was impossible to find anything under $600, despite the average being in the $200s.
http://www.zanebenefits.com/blog/bid/318864/M...

He lied.

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#44 Dec 9, 2013
vox veritatis wrote:
<quoted text>
That would be per person, not per family.
We were talking about individual, not family rates.

Since: Dec 11

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#45 Dec 9, 2013
Dr X wrote:
<quoted text>Did you visit the site jerkoff?
Priority Health. 30 year old. Grand Rapids, MI. No tobacco.

Plans range from $214 -$390.

You lied.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#46 Dec 9, 2013
The_Box wrote:
<quoted text>
He posted numbers that are literally illegal under the ACA.
He said it was impossible to find anything under $600, despite the average being in the $200s.
http://www.zanebenefits.com/blog/bid/318864/M...
He lied.
Bottom line: Dr X and his mother Really too stupid to navigate the website.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#47 Dec 9, 2013
The_Box wrote:
<quoted text>
Priority Health. 30 year old. Grand Rapids, MI. No tobacco.
Plans range from $214 -$390.
You lied.
Bottom line: Dr X received incorrect instruction on navigating the website from mom and dad Really and Onutso.
free thinker

Farmington, MI

#48 Dec 9, 2013
The_Box wrote:
What 27-34 year olds are going to be spending that much? I fit in that demographic and the plans for me range from $200-$350/month.
Most 27-34 year olds aren't going to spend that much, either. Millenials are overwhelmingly skeptical of their need for health insurance and prices like those only serve to further convince them that they don't want it and are better off simply paying their fine.
Why is someone in a demographic group who visits the doctor, on average, less than once a year going to spend 3-4K on a plan when their usage wouldn't even meet their average out of pocket on the off chance that they MIGHT get hurt and need care? They would be far better off setting that money aside in a savings account or short term CD and earning interest on it. Then they can tap those funds if and when the need arises. No expensive plan that only serves to pay for someone else's care required.
Oh...and telling them that the government needs them to pay for the older, sicker population isn't making them want to rush to the exchanges, either as enrollment data is clearly showing.

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#49 Dec 9, 2013
free thinker wrote:
<quoted text>
Why is someone in a demographic group who visits the doctor, on average, less than once a year going to spend 3-4K on a plan when their usage wouldn't even meet their average out of pocket on the off chance that they MIGHT get hurt and need care?
Plans can be found for around $200, which is $2400 a year. A lot of young people have low incomes, which would qualify them for subsidies as well.

One trip to the hospital can easily cost in the thousands of dollars. I broke and dislocated my finger 2 years ago and it was over $1500. I also received my regular checkup (+ labwork) as preventative care.

My fiance also gets regular checkups, goes to a gynecologist, and is on $100/month birth control that she pays only $10 for due to her insurance coverage. And we don't have to worry about the costs of prenatal care and delivery costs when we choose to have a child, which a lot of 27-34 year olds are doing.

All this and we're not going to go bankrupt in the event something serious happens.

You overstated the costs and understated the benefits.
free thinker wrote:
They would be far better off setting that money aside in a savings account or short term CD and earning interest on it.
Interest rates are complete garbage right now. It wouldn't earn anything.

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#50 Dec 9, 2013
This is a good article about the increases in obamacare. The main reason is the deductible...or to decrease the deductible by buying a more expensive plan. Either way, people aren't buying in.
Well worth the read...
http://washingtonexaminer.com/hospitals-will-...

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#51 Dec 9, 2013
More special treatment for government employees that the common person doesn't get...
http://washingtonexaminer.com/congress-staff-...
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#52 Dec 9, 2013
27-34 year olds statistically are the most accident prone. Knee injuries, broken limbs can easily cost several thousand dollars particularly if an ER is the first place they end up. If they end up in the ER plan on the hospital charging an uninsured person about 50% more minimum. If that person is also employed, plan on collection efforts in full gear.

You want to roll the dice there lil stinker? Go for it!

Polls are suggesting young people with any smarts are at least considering the benefits of buying health insurance, especially plans with lower premiums. Its making sense to them, not the other way around like the GR forum low information Doofuses like lil stinker and his uncle Papa Grande supremo The Mouth.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#53 Dec 9, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
This is a good article about the increases in obamacare. The main reason is the deductible...or to decrease the deductible by buying a more expensive plan. Either way, people aren't buying in.
Well worth the read...
http://washingtonexaminer.com/hospitals-will-...
And don't forget to mention your source is a right-wing blogger rag that is widely known to cater to low information swamp or bunker dwellers like those you seem to desperately want to impress on forums like this one. Have you ever considered how a 100 watt light bulb stays lit? Your friends here collectively don't have enough smarts to trip the switch to ON.

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#54 Dec 9, 2013
The_Box wrote:
<quoted text>
Plans can be found for around $200, which is $2400 a year. A lot of young people have low incomes, which would qualify them for subsidies as well.
One trip to the hospital can easily cost in the thousands of dollars. I broke and dislocated my finger 2 years ago and it was over $1500. I also received my regular checkup (+ labwork) as preventative care.
My fiance also gets regular checkups, goes to a gynecologist, and is on $100/month birth control that she pays only $10 for due to her insurance coverage. And we don't have to worry about the costs of prenatal care and delivery costs when we choose to have a child, which a lot of 27-34 year olds are doing.
All this and we're not going to go bankrupt in the event something serious happens.
You overstated the costs and understated the benefits.
<quoted text>
Interest rates are complete garbage right now. It wouldn't earn anything.
The $200 dollar offering is not available in all states...that's the big problem here...
http://washingtonexaminer.com/obamacare-shock...

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#55 Dec 9, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
More special treatment for government employees that the common person doesn't get...
lol

The common person has until December 23rd to sign up for an exchange plan if they want it to be available for January 1st.

These employees had until December 9th to sign up and are now being given an extension.

What's the special treatment again?

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#56 Dec 9, 2013
The_Box wrote:
<quoted text>
lol
The common person has until December 23rd to sign up for an exchange plan if they want it to be available for January 1st.
These employees had until December 9th to sign up and are now being given an extension.
What's the special treatment again?
Please, feel free to call or contact the Washington Examiner and tell them they are wrong in printing that the deadline for staffers is today, Dec 9.
When you manage to get a retraction from them be sure to make them post it online and post the link here.
Other than that, what part of the English language don't you understand??

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#57 Dec 9, 2013
pipedream wrote:
<quoted text>
And don't forget to mention your source is a right-wing blogger rag that is widely known to cater to low information swamp or bunker dwellers like those you seem to desperately want to impress on forums like this one. Have you ever considered how a 100 watt light bulb stays lit? Your friends here collectively don't have enough smarts to trip the switch to ON.
You are entitled to your opinion. That does not make it gospel nor does it make it valid.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#58 Dec 9, 2013
The_Box wrote:
<quoted text>
lol
The common person has until December 23rd to sign up for an exchange plan if they want it to be available for January 1st.
These employees had until December 9th to sign up and are now being given an extension.
What's the special treatment again?
In case you don't know. Wiggles is well known in these parts as the Master of Shell Gaming.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#59 Dec 9, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
Please, feel free to call or contact the Washington Examiner and tell them they are wrong in printing that the deadline for staffers is today, Dec 9.
When you manage to get a retraction from them be sure to make them post it online and post the link here.
Other than that, what part of the English language don't you understand??
If you looked for the information somewhere besides the right-wing lunatics blogs or Faux Nose you you might discover credible, factual information/answers.

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#60 Dec 9, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
The $200 dollar offering is not available in all states...that's the big problem here...
http://washingtonexaminer.com/obamacare-shock...
Can you tell me what states do not have offerings around $200?

I live in a state that has been totally uncooperative with the exchanges and only has one (!) insurer as an option (BCBS) and I can find plans around $220.

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#61 Dec 9, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
Please, feel free to call or contact the Washington Examiner and tell them they are wrong in printing that the deadline for staffers is today, Dec 9.
Yeah, that's what I said.
Mr Wiggley wrote:
Other than that, what part of the English language don't you understand??
You should ask yourself that question since the point of my post when completely over your head.

Say you have 2 twin children. You say Timmy has to go to bed at 9 while Bobby has to go to bed at 8.

8 o'clock rolls around and you decide to let Bobby stay up a little later.

"More special treatment for Bobby that Timmy doesn't get..."
Oneal

Three Rivers, MI

#62 Dec 9, 2013
pipedream wrote:
27-34 year olds statistically are the most accident prone. Knee injuries, broken limbs can easily cost several thousand dollars particularly if an ER is the first place they end up. If they end up in the ER plan on the hospital charging an uninsured person about 50% more minimum. If that person is also employed, plan on collection efforts in full gear.
You want to roll the dice there lil stinker? Go for it!
Polls are suggesting young people with any smarts are at least considering the benefits of buying health insurance, especially plans with lower premiums. Its making sense to them, not the other way around like the GR forum low information Doofuses like lil stinker and his uncle Papa Grande supremo The Mouth.
Rolling the dice is creating a total revamp up a nation's health care system under the premise that Hopefully enough young people, who statistically can least afford it, willingly sign up for coverage they may or may not need.

"Polls are suggesting young people with any smarts"?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/04/as...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mariel-klein/mi...

[Millennials will not sign up for Obamacare or the Affordable Care Act.

... less than one quarter of young people ages 18 to 29 say they will definitely or probably enroll in insurance through an exchange, according to a poll from the Harvard Public Opinion Project released Wednesday morning

The data shows that millennials still do not think insurance is worth the cost. Of the 22 percent of millennials who do not currently have health insurance, just 29 percent say they will enroll in Obamacare, 25 percent say the same under the Affordable Care Act. Opposite its intentions, the health reform plan has not incentivized young people to buy insurance..]

If anything polls and projects, and oh by the way ACA signups, are showing that young people are predictably staying away by the droves in favor of "rolling the dice".

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