Harry Reid Exempts His Staff From Obamacare

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Oneal

Three Rivers, MI

#1 Dec 4, 2013
http://news.yahoo.com/harry-reid-exempts-some...

One of the biggest public supporters of the Affordable Care Act has reportedly decided that some of his staff should be exempted from the new law.

CNN reports that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is the only top congressional leader to exempt some of his staff from having to buy insurance through the Affordable Care Act exchanges...

"Let's stop these really juvenile political games – the one dealing with healthcare for senators and House members and our staff,” Reid said at the time.“We are going to be part of exchanges, that's what the law says and we'll be part of that." Harry Reid, 2013

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LMAO ... oh the lies!

What says you now, progressive friends? Seems even Harry The Hypocrite would rather spare his staff that which he tells you is your only option.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#2 Dec 4, 2013
Oneal wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/harry-re id-exempts-some-of-his-senate- staff-from-obamacare-exchanges -192925037.html
One of the biggest public supporters of the Affordable Care Act has reportedly decided that some of his staff should be exempted from the new law.
CNN reports that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is the only top congressional leader to exempt some of his staff from having to buy insurance through the Affordable Care Act exchanges...
"Let's stop these really juvenile political games – the one dealing with healthcare for senators and House members and our staff,” Reid said at the time.“We are going to be part of exchanges, that's what the law says and we'll be part of that." Harry Reid, 2013
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LMAO ... oh the lies!
What says you now, progressive friends? Seems even Harry The Hypocrite would rather spare his staff that which he tells you is your only option.
Now for the million dollar question...what gives him the right to exempt his employees while no other employer, except politicians, have that same right?

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#3 Dec 4, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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Now for the million dollar question...what gives him the right to exempt his employees while no other employer, except politicians, have that same right?
Good question,.....makes you wonder, doesn't it?
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#4 Dec 5, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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Now for the million dollar question...what gives him the right to exempt his employees while no other employer, except politicians, have that same right?
He himself stated they will all be on because "it's the law", therefore by exempting some of his staff Reid's at the very least breaking his own word and at the worst breaking the law.

Who gives him the right? The ignorant masses who continue to allow these progressive elitists to create laws they themselves then decide who must obey and who doesn't because those Obama supporters are no longer paying attention. The radical lunatics like Bob and Pipedream who only care about "the cause" of progressivism at best, and at worst don't really care about anything but trollish zingers on a Topix site.

I'm elated Reid did this. It gives conservatives even more prof this law is corrupt, flawed and needs to be repealed. It gives conservatives even more ammunition to fire at democrats that they themselves don't believe in a law they willfully shoved down the throats of the middle class, who will ultimately pay for every one of these exemptions the law-pushers dictate.

The best the radicals can come back with is accusations of "foux outrage", but once again they cannot defend or debunk a lie.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Brighton, MI

#5 Dec 5, 2013
Harry want to be a slave owner.

Since: Dec 11

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#6 Dec 5, 2013
Oneal wrote:
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He himself stated they will all be on because "it's the law", therefore by exempting some of his staff Reid's at the very least breaking his own word and at the worst breaking the law.
He's breaking his word, but not the law. The law does not apply to those staff members.

It's silly to deem this an "exemption" when it didn't apply to them in the first place.

Since: Dec 11

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#7 Dec 5, 2013
Oneal wrote:
What says you now, progressive friends? Seems even Harry The Hypocrite would rather spare his staff that which he tells you is your only option.
You don't understand the situation.

The typical American with health insurance has it through their employer or Medicaid or Medicare.

For those that don't, they can go to the exchanges and pick up a Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum plan OR they can find a job with health insurance OR they can choose to pay the fine.

A clause in the ACA said that Congressmen (and some of their staffers) may NOT get insurance through their job and may NOT choose the Bronze/Silver/Platinum plans on the exchange. They have far FEWER options than the rest of America.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Howell, MI

#8 Dec 5, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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He's breaking his word, but not the law. The law does not apply to those staff members.
It's silly to deem this an "exemption" when it didn't apply to them in the first place.
So our Constitutional Republic has a govt that rules by do as I say and not as I do...... This will end the Dems when the bill comes due.....

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#9 Dec 5, 2013
Gville Jim wrote:
<quoted text>Good question,.....makes you wonder, doesn't it?
Yep, sure does.

Have you had that snowmobile out yet?

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#10 Dec 5, 2013
Oneal wrote:
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He himself stated they will all be on because "it's the law", therefore by exempting some of his staff Reid's at the very least breaking his own word and at the worst breaking the law.
Who gives him the right? The ignorant masses who continue to allow these progressive elitists to create laws they themselves then decide who must obey and who doesn't because those Obama supporters are no longer paying attention. The radical lunatics like Bob and Pipedream who only care about "the cause" of progressivism at best, and at worst don't really care about anything but trollish zingers on a Topix site.
I'm elated Reid did this. It gives conservatives even more prof this law is corrupt, flawed and needs to be repealed. It gives conservatives even more ammunition to fire at democrats that they themselves don't believe in a law they willfully shoved down the throats of the middle class, who will ultimately pay for every one of these exemptions the law-pushers dictate.
The best the radicals can come back with is accusations of "foux outrage", but once again they cannot defend or debunk a lie.
As long as Obama continues to abuse his "executive power" to bypass congress we are in trouble. We are sliding down a slippery slope as we watch our Representative Democracy dwindle away.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#11 Dec 5, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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He's breaking his word, but not the law. The law does not apply to those staff members.
It's silly to deem this an "exemption" when it didn't apply to them in the first place.
The law does not apply to his staff??????

So now we have constitutional laws that only apply to certain people? And being employed by a congressman is the ticker that exempts them from the law????

Just whom mandated this special exemption?
Oneal

Three Rivers, MI

#12 Dec 5, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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You don't understand the situation.
The typical American with health insurance has it through their employer or Medicaid or Medicare.
For those that don't, they can go to the exchanges and pick up a Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum plan OR they can find a job with health insurance OR they can choose to pay the fine.
A clause in the ACA said that Congressmen (and some of their staffers) may NOT get insurance through their job and may NOT choose the Bronze/Silver/Platinum plans on the exchange. They have far FEWER options than the rest of America.
I understand the situation. When republicans predicted Harry would exempt his staff he made the snotty statement to the media that I posted. Since then he's done exactly what the republicans predicted he'd do. He lied. You can quote passages from Humptycare all day long, but it doesn't clear the lie.

Obama should have been honest and clear (as he always begins his professorial lecturing to the American people with "let me be clear...") about the requirement clause that is now causing millions to receive cancelation notices.

Harry Reid should have been clear about the possibility that his staff would not sign up when he got his panties in a fluff over predictions that he'd exempt his own staff from the law he himself has strongly fought to foist on the American people.

Here's the situation, just so you're clear: This is the administration that promised to be the most transparent in history, yet incidents like this prove them to be anything but transparent, which is exactly why I created this thread.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Farmington, MI

#13 Dec 5, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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As long as Obama continues to abuse his "executive power" to bypass congress we are in trouble. We are sliding down a slippery slope as we watch our Representative Democracy dwindle away.
Respectfully, should the label for our form of govt be a Representative Republic? I know people use some terms interchangeably...... Thoughts

Since: Dec 11

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#14 Dec 5, 2013
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>So our Constitutional Republic has a govt that rules by do as I say and not as I do...... This will end the Dems when the bill comes due.....
No, it won't. If lying was a problem for politicians, there would never be incumbents.

Since: Dec 11

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#15 Dec 5, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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The law does not apply to his staff??????
The extra mandate only applies to his personal staff, not these other staff members. It was in the article.

"Though the law requires members of Congress and their personal staff to sign up under the federal exchange, CNN reports that committee and leadership staff are not bound by the same requirements."
Mr Wiggley wrote:
So now we have constitutional laws that only apply to certain people? And being employed by a congressman is the ticker that exempts them from the law????
No, being employed as personal staff to a Congressmen (or being the Congressman) is the only thing that *makes the law apply*.

You have the entire situation backwards.

The law creates the exchanges and says anyone MAY use them if they like. It then also says that a set of people [Congressmen and their personal staff] MUST use them.
Mr Wiggley wrote:
Just whom mandated this special exemption?
Republican Chuck Grassley is the one who added it to the ACA.

Since: Dec 11

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#16 Dec 5, 2013
Oneal wrote:
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I understand the situation.
The fact that you think anyone is being exempted from anything they'd otherwise be required to do proves otherwise.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#17 Dec 5, 2013
The_Box wrote:
<quoted text>
The extra mandate only applies to his personal staff, not these other staff members. It was in the article.
"Though the law requires members of Congress and their personal staff to sign up under the federal exchange, CNN reports that committee and leadership staff are not bound by the same requirements."
<quoted text>
No, being employed as personal staff to a Congressmen (or being the Congressman) is the only thing that *makes the law apply*.
You have the entire situation backwards.
The law creates the exchanges and says anyone MAY use them if they like. It then also says that a set of people [Congressmen and their personal staff] MUST use them.
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Republican Chuck Grassley is the one who added it to the ACA.
I think you just contradicted yourself...

Since: Dec 11

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#18 Dec 5, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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I think you just contradicted yourself...
Explain, please.
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#19 Dec 5, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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The fact that you think anyone is being exempted from anything they'd otherwise be required to do proves otherwise.
I understand you're going to try and argue over the definition of a word instead of accept the lie that Harry Reid told.

Harry's own words prove he lied. You either accept that or you don't. I'm not arguing with a Bill Clinton wannabe on the definition of "is".

The end result is harry Reid said his staff would be in when it came to Obamacare and they are most definitely not in. He lied.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#20 Dec 5, 2013
Oneal wrote:
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I understand you're going to try and argue over the definition of a word instead of accept the lie that Harry Reid told.
What thread are you in? I said right at the start of the thread that he lied.

That has nothing to do with your misunderstanding about Obamacare and how it applies to Congressional staff members.

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