500 battery jobs for Johnson Controls

A partnership involving Johnson Controls plans to add 500 jobs in West Michigan to build batteries for electric cars. Full Story
Zak

Saint Charles, IL

#21 Apr 14, 2009
Where do I go to apply for one of those jobs, any shift. Have references.
mike

Madison Heights, MI

#22 Apr 14, 2009
QUIT BITCHING!!! my god, like i posted in the other thread, you people bitch when jobs go away and you bitch when jobs come to the area, you are your own worst enemies! If you don't like it here...then leave???

Since: Feb 09

nowhere

#23 Apr 14, 2009
i think the state needs to create jobs fixing these crappy roads that way we would never run out of work lol

“Infinitely Interesting”

Since: Jan 09

Kalamazoo, MI

#24 Apr 14, 2009
wingnut wrote:
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Yes it probably would, but I doubt that that will happen. Maybe some of the more recent laid off people would get called back, but the majority I would say will be new hires. probably alot of hiring through temp agencies at first too. How often do you see croporations doing "the right thing"?
Johnson Controls has been trying to restrict their use of temp agencies for sometime. They might just go "through the door" on this one. Generally, many companies have policies that restrict rehiring old employees. Regardless of layoffs, many companies feel that if the employee was not hired originally, they might be disgruntled and could cause more harm than good. While employees don't look at it like that, many employers do. It is so unfortunate, because I work in the staffing industry and deal with a lot of very qualified workers, who for whatever reason, are unable to return to their prior jobs, regardless of performance or not, especially when it involves larger corporations. Smaller mom and pop shops are usually more open to bringing back old employees. However, even with all of that said, there are other companies still, who WILL bring back prior employees given they have been laid off for at least 6 months or less and had NO prior adverse action documented to their employee handbook. If you have attendance or performance issues, regardless of how wonderful they told you, you were, don't expect to be brought back. I see it all the time.

“Infinitely Interesting”

Since: Jan 09

Kalamazoo, MI

#25 Apr 14, 2009
colie26 wrote:
i think the state needs to create jobs fixing these crappy roads that way we would never run out of work lol
Ever since I was a little girl growing up in Oklahoma, there was one thing I remember my dad always referencing; The bad roads in Michigan, salt, and winter driving hazards that damage people's cars. I knew moving here 10 years ago that living in Michigan will require me to deal with it.... It goes with the territory. The roads will always be a B, just like the rusty old pickups found around here... Ever wonder why people store their nice vehicles in the winter or hear people sell their vehicles and list "never seen a Michigan winter"? This is referring to the harsh conditions and the salt used on the roads. This is really nothing new. The roads in GA and OK are great, you could always move there!

Since: Feb 09

nowhere

#26 Apr 14, 2009
well yea i hope they don't go thru an agency those are a waste of time i would rather deal directly with the company not a third party. other than that i'm happy theres jobs finally coming here, although im in the medical field so it doesn't relate to any of my skills lol

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Since: Oct 08

Kalamazoo, MI

#28 Apr 14, 2009
This is good news, but right now it is like repairing a capillary while an artery is still bleeding out. We've got a lot of vessels to repair/ replace if this state is going to thrive again.
wingnut

United States

#29 Apr 14, 2009
lil poochie wrote:
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What is the right thing in your mind. Call the person back because they are? Or call the person back becasue they were a valued employee in the past and are qualified for the new job. And that hiring that person back will make the company and the rest of the work force healthier and stronger in the future.
I think and hope that the really smart people making the really hard decisions will lean toward the latter, which in the real business world would be the right thing to do.
Doing the right thing would be to hire those that were valued and quality workers, but more often than not they won't hire them back, instead opting to hire cheaper workers through a temp agency. You say that it doesn't matter what degree a person has, that it doesn't matter if it pertains to their job or not. How good business sense is that. Let's hire a person with a physical therapy degree to be a tool and die supervisor. Or how about the person with the marketing degree as a manufacturing maintenance supervisor. How does that make sense? Where I was, more often than not, those making the really hard decisions were not really all that smart. Intelligent maybe but not smart. Lets say educated beyond their intelligence.
Seriously

Grand Rapids, MI

#30 Apr 14, 2009
For a 100 million dollar tax CREDIT, I will hire 500 people and give them jobs for four years! Let's do the math. If I pay them 40k per year for 4 years, that is 160,000. Multiply that by 500... 80,000,000. should net me a cool 20 mil.

If I promise to turn cow manure into energy, will that do? Better yet, I will have my 500 employees run on a tredmill to charge batteries.
Its been a long day

Grandville, MI

#31 Apr 14, 2009
lil poochie wrote:
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WHAT?!?!? Are you complaining that they want experience and don't look enough at experience in the same sentence? OMG. And you people wonder why you are un-employed...
I think that's a bit harsh. I think what the poster was trying to get at is that an applicant may not have 5 yrs of experience in that particular field, but may have valuable experience elsewhere.

I have been with my company for almost 11 years and don't plan on leaving anytime soon. But if something where to happen, there is little chance of me getting a comparable job in the same field. Hopefully prospective employers would take my current work experience into considersation should I have to go into a new field.
Denny

Grand Rapids, MI

#32 Apr 14, 2009
You all are very narrow minded and don't look at or don't care to see the whole picture. This article is about 500 jobs which is a very very very small piece of the puzzle.
gold1102

Greenville, MI

#33 Apr 14, 2009
This is a pretty good scam don't you think, A month or so ago Johnson Controls was/is eliminating how many 100's if not thousands of jobs.
And yet this month they get a 100 Million dollar Tax Break for creating jobs.
Seems to me like Johnson Controls gets a very nice tax break because they eliminated a bunch of jobs.
Does this mean they have to hire new workers or just call back or not get rid of the workers they already have? Pretty nice move for a $100,000,000 and yet they still eliminated how many jobs?
Oh yeah they didn't make batteries, They made car parts. So they did create new jobs. They just eleimnated the car parts.
Probably use the same buildings too, And just convert them, Pretty good scam Governor, "Blow us away" with some more jobs.
Proactive

Grand Rapids, MI

#34 Apr 14, 2009
Businessminded wrote:
Does anybody else find this odd? We're gearing up to produce mass amounts of batteries for cars. What cars? Who is buying cars with batteries? Where do we 'fill em up?'- there is no infrastructure. And is their enough Lithium in the world to meet the US Demand if we did???? Are we ready to put these batteries in manufacturing already? TOO many questions, not enough answers....
http://forums.hannity.com/archive/index.php/t...
Part of the reason we are in the mess we're in is because no one planned for today .... Batteries for cars we've not all bought in to? Yes! Why wait until the cars are in demand to build the batteries for them? If consumers have to wait they won't buy the car. Let's get a head of the curve for once and plan for the future.

And by the way, try quoting someone with some authority. Not a tv celeb!

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#35 Apr 14, 2009
When Johnson Controls bought out the Delphi/Delco battery company,
They switched all production to China!
They closed the plants here.

“Part of the uninformed masses.”

Since: Jun 08

Grand Rapids

#36 Apr 14, 2009
spartanman wrote:
This is good news, but right now it is like repairing a capillary while an artery is still bleeding out. We've got a lot of vessels to repair/ replace if this state is going to thrive again.
Agreed. Once announcement or even 10 will not fix our state... but it's a start!
John Q Public

Grand Rapids, MI

#37 Apr 14, 2009
MTS wrote:
IMPEACH GRANMOLE IF YOU KNOW WHATS GOOD FOR MICHIGAN WOULDNT IT BE NICE IF WE COULD GET A GOVENOR THAT ACTUALLY CARES ABOUT MICHIGAN AND SOME ONE WHO WAS BORN IN MICHIGAN AND NOT CANADA.
So anyone wasn't born in Michigan doesn't care about Michigan, right?

Well I was Born in Kalamazoo. Raised in Wisconsin and after a few stints in Iowa as wewll as Wisconsin again I came back to Michiagn in 1979.

Let me know if I qualify. Because If I dont i'll stop caring right now.

“Infinitely Interesting”

Since: Jan 09

Kalamazoo, MI

#38 Apr 14, 2009
spartanman wrote:
This is good news, but right now it is like repairing a capillary while an artery is still bleeding out. We've got a lot of vessels to repair/ replace if this state is going to thrive again.
Agreed! But this is a start in the right direction. Did you see the other posts for 3000 film jobs in Detroit. That helps. Then another company bringing on 300. I know it's still dreary, but it is a step toward getting people back to work. I have noticed that my office has started picking up with needs for professionals. Right now, the general labor/ light industrial market is still slow. I have had a lot of movement for purchasing agents/buyers, accountants, shipping/ warehousing clerks, non-profit telemarketers, collections, and customer service.

From what I hear National City in Kalamazoo is trying to hire 300 jobs immediately, mostly for customer service,$12-15/hr, 1st/2nd shifts, and immediate turn around time- Could be working within 3 days to a week after applying.
Worth a shot for those looking. Must have prior customer service experience.
Businessminded

Saint Charles, IL

#39 Apr 14, 2009
Proactive wrote:
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Part of the reason we are in the mess we're in is because no one planned for today .... Batteries for cars we've not all bought in to? Yes! Why wait until the cars are in demand to build the batteries for them? If consumers have to wait they won't buy the car. Let's get a head of the curve for once and plan for the future.
And by the way, try quoting someone with some authority. Not a tv celeb!
Yeah I knew somebody would get too focused on where the info came from rather than absorb it for the reality it speaks. I always consider sources -but that goes both ways. If Obama says something that makes sense it doesn't matter that it's Obama.

I am 100% behind 'planning for the future'. But this smells a WHOLE lot like the stupid idea of using corn for gas too. LOOK where that got us! Higher corn/food prices and where is that alternative fuel now? We DO NOT need another hairbrained half-thought out idea. "Batteries" should be PART of the solution and the idea that we're suddenly adding thousands of jobs to produce them when I don't know a single person buying a battery operated car smells like corn to me!
spike

Grand Rapids, MI

#40 Apr 14, 2009
I'm pretty sure they'll be making flux capacitors in the same plant!! Somebody call Marty McFly!!!
Businessminded

Saint Charles, IL

#41 Apr 14, 2009
I want to be clear, I am for alternative energy and solving the gas/oil dependency. But, this 'announcement' would make more sense if it were followed by more info that related to the 'big picture'. For instance, what car company is buying these battieries? GM is on the verge of bankruptcy. Who either is producing them or is financially able to invest in more battery operated vehicles without their being 'orders' for them? Or will this be another example of 'stockpiles' of items produced that we don't need or can't be sold like a military contract?

I'm not trying to rain on the good news but I was skeptical of the corn fuel too and was amazed that 'experts' did not forsee the impact on the supply/demand and pricing of corn. I'm not that smart but it seemed like an obvious hurdle to me. Batteries are a great idea for a very small portion of the population. But imagine how many cars currently pull into a gas station and fill up each day and now ask yourself how that will work for the electric car and how long that will take to build an infrastructure. Then ask yourself IF 'electric' gas can be affordable and profitable if everybody isn't using them and manufacturing & infrastructure costs aren't absorbed by the masses. Is the government planning a mass purchase for gov't employees vehicles?

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