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#361
May 29, 2013
 
Sassy wrote:
Where is your logic coming from? Personal experience? I know people that just drink, and I know people that just smoke MJ in moderate amounts. I've been to events where the alcohol consumption is extremely high, yet no evidence of MJ. You must live behind closed doors.
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Yeahaaaaa,......you a hoe!
crakhead!
what you do behind closed door's would make most men die from projectile vomiting.
we dont want to hear it!!
you are disgusting!

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vox veritatis wrote:
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And my point is that it's used in combination with alcohol (or another drug) more often then it's used alone. Care to tell the class what happens when you mix alcohol with marijuana?
You get a liberal.

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vox veritatis wrote:
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And my point is that it's used in combination with alcohol (or another drug) more often then it's used alone. Care to tell the class what happens when you mix alcohol with marijuana?
It's used alone, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayy more...than with alcohol....So then, we disagree broadly......

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vox veritatis wrote:
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Once again, Blue doesn't read the link. Marijuana has now passed cocaine as the most commonly used/co-abused drug in conjunction with Alcohol. It also has unpredictable effects on the user when Marijuana and Alcohol are combined. Yep...let's just keep telling everyone that there's no problem and that it's totally, completely safe and harmless. I'm sure the useful idiots of society are more than willing to believe what they want to hear.
Methinks some of their information is wrong...
Almost a Billion in Cocaine...
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/30/justice/massive...

PS...cocaine and alcohol are highly addictive...mj is not.

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Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>It's used alone, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayy more...than with alcohol....So then, we disagree broadly......
I was going to say if that situation comes to be you'd have a very hungry drunk seeking munchies.

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Mr Wiggley wrote:
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Methinks some of their information is wrong...
Almost a Billion in Cocaine...
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/30/justice/massive...
PS...cocaine and alcohol are highly addictive...mj is not.
Can't believe they don't include tobacco in those addiction studies....
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That is where you get your biased attitude from. Obviously not experience. People that treat addiction can have a very different attitude than those that live every day life. There is nothing wrong with their attitude, it just is biased and ingrained in their brain.

Ask your spouse this. What is an an alcholic? Does it apply to nature vs nurture? Do you know what the difference is? Does it mean that a child of a drug addicted parent or alcoholic mean that they are going to become one? No it does not.
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Spouse who works in the field of drug addiction treatment. Your 'personal experience' compared to theirs is so limited, it's laughable.
Really

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Sassy wrote:
That is where you get your biased attitude from. Obviously not experience. People that treat addiction can have a very different attitude than those that live every day life. There is nothing wrong with their attitude, it just is biased and ingrained in their brain.
Ask your spouse this. What is an an alcholic? Does it apply to nature vs nurture? Do you know what the difference is? Does it mean that a child of a drug addicted parent or alcoholic mean that they are going to become one? No it does not.
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Actually, in the case of alcoholics, it has scientifically been proven there is a gene that is passed down that makes the child of an alcoholic a much greater risk for becoming an alcoholic. How do I know this? I have that gene as does my daughter and my grandchildren who got it from their grandfathers. As for the drug addiction, I have no idea if a child of a drug addict is more likely to become one or not. Does the child HAVE to become an alcoholic? No they do not, they have choices just like we all have as they get older, but their risk is higher than someone who does NOT come from an alcoholic family. THAT is fact and knowledge Sassy.
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#369
May 31, 2013
 
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Can't believe they don't include tobacco in those addiction studies....
Not like there haven't been a lot done already. How many more studies do you need on the addictive qualities and properties of nicotine?

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#370
May 31, 2013
 
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Can't believe they don't include tobacco in those addiction studies....
Actually, nicotine rates as high or higher in addictive qualities as heroin or cocaine. In the catagory of Dependance it goes off the charts. In the catagories of Withdrawl, Tolerance and Reinforcement it's pretty much on average with heroin and cocaine. With regards to Intoxication it's quite low.

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free thinker wrote:
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Not like there haven't been a lot done already. How many more studies do you need on the addictive qualities and properties of nicotine?
I'm good...i finally quit...only took 3 years.....the strength of that addiction is incredible, even now part of me thinks i could just have 1 or 2...a few.... but you have to buy a pack.....then it's the elephant foot on the chest, just like the commercial.....figuratively of course....even marijuana is like so less fatal......lol...
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Actually it is tied to depression and anxiety gene. That has been proven to run in families. Individuals suffering from depression and anxiety tend to self medicate with alcohol or drugs instead of getting the help they need.
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<quoted text>Actually, in the case of alcoholics, it has scientifically been proven there is a gene that is passed down that makes the child of an alcoholic a much greater risk for becoming an alcoholic. How do I know this? I have that gene as does my daughter and my grandchildren who got it from their grandfathers. As for the drug addiction, I have no idea if a child of a drug addict is more likely to become one or not. Does the child HAVE to become an alcoholic? No they do not, they have choices just like we all have as they get older, but their risk is higher than someone who does NOT come from an alcoholic family. THAT is fact and knowledge Sassy.
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Jun 1, 2013
 
Go Blue Forever wrote:
I'm good...i finally quit...only took 3 years.....the strength of that addiction is incredible, even now part of me thinks i could just have 1 or 2...a few.....
Congrats on quitting...I'm 8 years quit myself after being a 2 PPD smoker for nearly 25. Yup, it's rough and even though you don't have nicotine in your system still, you will always be addicted to it...the receptors for it never go away so as soon as you smoke one, you're right back where you started, addiction-wise.
IMO what makes quitting hard is not so much the withdrawal, which only lasts for a few days and isn't horribly unpleasant, it's the fact that most smokers have themselves convinced that they are giving up something that they really love/enjoy and it's human nature to resist denying ourselves pleasure for any length of time.
Once I figured out that I was smoking not so much because I liked it but because I was looking for that addiction 'hit'(ie I was addicted to it and jonesing for my fix), I put them down and never looked back, but it took me 6 attempts to achieve that realization.
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Jun 1, 2013
 
vox veritatis wrote:
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Congrats on quitting...I'm 8 years quit myself after being a 2 PPD smoker for nearly 25. Yup, it's rough and even though you don't have nicotine in your system still, you will always be addicted to it...the receptors for it never go away so as soon as you smoke one, you're right back where you started, addiction-wise.
IMO what makes quitting hard is not so much the withdrawal, which only lasts for a few days and isn't horribly unpleasant, it's the fact that most smokers have themselves convinced that they are giving up something that they really love/enjoy and it's human nature to resist denying ourselves pleasure for any length of time.
Once I figured out that I was smoking not so much because I liked it but because I was looking for that addiction 'hit'(ie I was addicted to it and jonesing for my fix), I put them down and never looked back, but it took me 6 attempts to achieve that realization.
Those I know that quit smoking always say it was only successful when they finally reached a point of WANTING to quit, not being pressured to, guilted to or told to quit. They say it's like a light switch clicks on and they're ready.

I had a stupid addiction to soda for a long time and just decided I was done - too hard to stay in shape and always have a soda in your hand. I'm sure it's not even close to what you smokers have gone through, but I can completely relate to that always thinking, "hmmm, maybe I'll just have one ..." feeling.

I've heard mixed reports on the addictive qualities of marijuana. Of course, it's always the people fighting to legalize it that find someone who says it's not addictive, and those against it that find someone who says it is :)
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Jun 1, 2013
 
vox veritatis wrote:
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Congrats on quitting...I'm 8 years quit myself after being a 2 PPD smoker for nearly 25. Yup, it's rough and even though you don't have nicotine in your system still, you will always be addicted to it...the receptors for it never go away so as soon as you smoke one, you're right back where you started, addiction-wise.
IMO what makes quitting hard is not so much the withdrawal, which only lasts for a few days and isn't horribly unpleasant, it's the fact that most smokers have themselves convinced that they are giving up something that they really love/enjoy and it's human nature to resist denying ourselves pleasure for any length of time.
Once I figured out that I was smoking not so much because I liked it but because I was looking for that addiction 'hit'(ie I was addicted to it and jonesing for my fix), I put them down and never looked back, but it took me 6 attempts to achieve that realization.
I quit 12 years ago this year. I still have my times when a cig sounds good, but I am now to the point that I can't really stand the smell of a cigarette. And I totally agree with your assessment that when I realized it was merely a habit that I felt I had to have one in my hand, I quit on a Sunday night and never looked back either. Can now go anywhere and not really crave the cigarette. But, it was not an easy thing to do and it took me 4 tries to finally quit.

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#377
Jun 1, 2013
 
I still look lovingly at them in the grocery store....it's like i still want just one, but they only sell them 20 at a time....it's the last 12-14 that really kick my butt....lol....i think that is one of the strongest addictions of all.....that and a girl named Brenda, in highschool.....#1966, how incredible.....
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Neither should alcoholics, the christian taliban, and mental nutcases. That about covers the spectrum of the chinese loving republicans and rules out at least 99% of the retardicans from owning a gun.

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Jun 6, 2013
 
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I was going to say if that situation comes to be you'd have a very hungry drunk seeking munchies.
...Maybe alcoholic's should'nt have firearms either..at least ideally?....or firarms...lol...
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Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>...Maybe alcoholic's should'nt have firearms either..at least ideally?....or firarms...lol...
Maybe not, that is something that could be looked into. I'm so glad we have pot heads to correct all the spelling errors on topix. I'm glad I could help to make u feel som sort of superior feeling. God nos you need help at it. I'm happy 2 help the helpless.
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I support legalization of cannabis in Virginia recreation use for adults.. everyone should have freedom its less harmless as any other drugs that are legal like Benzodiazepines.
and stop blaming everything on potheads we been programed for years to think like that..
I believe that Marijuana could be easily controlled just as alcohol is by the ABC stores
https://www.change.org/petitions/virginia-gen...

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