Pot heads should not have firarms

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So you want cannibus treated like every other mind altering addictive drug when it comes to prescription usage but not when it comes to gun ownership??
Do you think people who are currently taking physician-prescribed drugs should be allowed to own a gun?

My opinion on the drug part of background checks is that I'm concerned the government, especially a government who's president is one of the most vocal anti-gun politicians in history, will use something like PAST anti-depression medication as an excuse to decline a citizen's right to arm him/herself.

Should a citizen who IN THE PAST has spent time in a mental institution such as Michigan's Pine Rest be allowed to purchase and own a gun?

You see, similar to Obamacare, we don't know everything that would be in the bill that would allow government to set a criteria for who is and who isn't "fit" to be allowed the constitutional right to own a gun. Therefore, I'm interested to hear your answers on the above questions.

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All I can say to Wiggley is the same thing I've said before, medicinal marijuana, if monitored by a physician is one matter, decriminalizing pot for anyone to smoke is another matter altogether. Just like using pain killers - if monitored by a physician they can be a blessing to sufferers. If used for recreational purposes, they are addictive and dangerous. Pot is addictive, and if used just for getting high will lead to accidents, crime and add to the already enormous amount of substances people destroy their lives by becoming addicted to.
I've offered an argument against RECREATIONAL usage of pot; ADDICTION, and provided evidence to back it up. Can you provide a counter-argument that would cause anyone (who doesn't just want to get high like yourself) to support your cause?
Again, I'm talking about the recreational variety of legalized pot usage, not the physician-proscribed kind. Can you provide something that justifies legal recreational use of pot?
I can't answer your question with regard to "just wanting to get high" because I didn't use it to "just get high".
What part of the English Language don't you understand?? It hlped me 25 YEARS ago...you need to stop listening to rob and his lies...

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Helped...not hiped...

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Oneal wrote:
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Do you think people who are currently taking physician-prescribed drugs should be allowed to own a gun?
My opinion on the drug part of background checks is that I'm concerned the government, especially a government who's president is one of the most vocal anti-gun politicians in history, will use something like PAST anti-depression medication as an excuse to decline a citizen's right to arm him/herself.
Should a citizen who IN THE PAST has spent time in a mental institution such as Michigan's Pine Rest be allowed to purchase and own a gun?
You see, similar to Obamacare, we don't know everything that would be in the bill that would allow government to set a criteria for who is and who isn't "fit" to be allowed the constitutional right to own a gun. Therefore, I'm interested to hear your answers on the above questions.
I'm on the fence with regards to what the final line should be regarding gun ownership...it was vox and rob that appear to draw a more biased line as to only include people who use cannibus...for whatever reason, but don't include those who use or abuse prescription drugs. Odd huh??
Good question about past institution references...that's a whole new debate that I'd rather leave to people who can better make those determinations.
Obamacare????...who knows all the answers?? I personally don't like some of the things I've read are going to go into affect...
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Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>I'm on the fence with regards to what the final line should be regarding gun ownership...it was vox and rob that appear to draw a more biased line as to only include people who use cannibus...for whatever reason, but don't include those who use or abuse prescription drugs. Odd huh??
Good question about past institution references...that's a whole new debate that I'd rather leave to people who can better make those determinations.
Obamacare????...who knows all the answers?? I personally don't like some of the things I've read are going to go into affect...
Listen pot head I never said drug abusers users of any type should be allowed to own guns. The reason I didn't is because I'm not really sure were the government that abuses their power will stop or draw the so called red line.
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Mr Wiggley wrote:
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I can't answer your question with regard to "just wanting to get high" because I didn't use it to "just get high".
What part of the English Language don't you understand?? It hlped me 25 YEARS ago...you need to stop listening to rob and his lies...
Why can't you answer a simple question regarding legalizing RECREATIONAL pot usage? It doesn't matter if you use it recreationally or not, you're the one arguing for it to be decriminalized.

You expect people to buy into your argument that pot should be decriminalized for recreational usage yet you can't give a decent explanation of why we should legalize pot for just anyone to smoke in order to just get high?

The entire crux of my argument has been about recreational smoking introducing increased addiction and crime, as well as potential deadly traffic incidents. Those are common sense concerns that could be reasonably placed on any mind-altering substance used by irresponsible people. It happens with alcohol and other drugs. I've supplied links supporting the fact that pot is addictive - therefore I've pitched my case.

Now it's up to you to give us a sensible reason that supports decriminalizing pot for people to use (not just you) to just get high because they want to. Come on, Wiggley, you have to be able to at least offer an answer or why the hell would you expect anyone to support your cause?

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Oneal wrote:
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Why can't you answer a simple question regarding legalizing RECREATIONAL pot usage? It doesn't matter if you use it recreationally or not, you're the one arguing for it to be decriminalized.
You expect people to buy into your argument that pot should be decriminalized for recreational usage yet you can't give a decent explanation of why we should legalize pot for just anyone to smoke in order to just get high?
The entire crux of my argument has been about recreational smoking introducing increased addiction and crime, as well as potential deadly traffic incidents. Those are common sense concerns that could be reasonably placed on any mind-altering substance used by irresponsible people. It happens with alcohol and other drugs. I've supplied links supporting the fact that pot is addictive - therefore I've pitched my case.
Now it's up to you to give us a sensible reason that supports decriminalizing pot for people to use (not just you) to just get high because they want to. Come on, Wiggley, you have to be able to at least offer an answer or why the hell would you expect anyone to support your cause?
I don't recall ever posting any support for decriminalization of cannibus for recreational usage. If you can find one, please feel free to post the thread and post number.
I'd appreciate it if you would stop making false statements like: "You expect people to buy into your argument that pot should be decriminalized for recreational usage". I did not say that nor did I imply that, anywhere...again...if you think I did...post the thread and post number.
If you can't debate a subject without making false accusations, which seems to be the case, you are obviously not capable of rational conversation or debate. Telling someone what they think and then expecting them to defend those false beliefs is unreasonable.
So what's it going to be?? Reality or your strawman??
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Mr Wiggley wrote:
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I don't recall ever posting any support for decriminalization of cannibus for recreational usage. If you can find one, please feel free to post the thread and post number.
I'd appreciate it if you would stop making false statements like: "You expect people to buy into your argument that pot should be decriminalized for recreational usage". I did not say that nor did I imply that, anywhere...again...if you think I did...post the thread and post number.
If you can't debate a subject without making false accusations, which seems to be the case, you are obviously not capable of rational conversation or debate. Telling someone what they think and then expecting them to defend those false beliefs is unreasonable.
So what's it going to be?? Reality or your strawman??
On post #310 you wrote this:
"Of course I support the medical usage of cannibus. I also support and hope hemp will be decriminalized....".

I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. I just misunderstood your post was all. Take it easy. Hemp and Cannibus are derivatives of the same plant, and although I do understand the differences between the two, they are considered basically the same by many. Keep in mind, none of your multitude of posts made it clear you WEREN'T in support of recreational pot either.

SO, let's get this clear so I don't make the same mistake again: Are you for, against (or in the fence as to) the legalization of CANNIBUS for recreational usage?
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Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>I don't recall ever posting any support for decriminalization of cannibus for recreational usage. If you can find one, please feel free to post the thread and post number.
I'd appreciate it if you would stop making false statements like: "You expect people to buy into your argument that pot should be decriminalized for recreational usage". I did not say that nor did I imply that, anywhere...again...if you think I did...post the thread and post number.
If you can't debate a subject without making false accusations, which seems to be the case, you are obviously not capable of rational conversation or debate. Telling someone what they think and then expecting them to defend those false beliefs is unreasonable.
So what's it going to be?? Reality or your strawman??
What's the point in looking back and reading all the posts to find where you said something stupid only to prove you wrong. Your always wrong and all you will do is say "that's not what I meant" or "it depends on what your definition of "is" is." Your bad memory is a side affect you know.
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Oneal wrote:
<quoted text>On post #310 you wrote this:
"Of course I support the medical usage of cannibus. I also support and hope hemp will be decriminalized....".

I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. I just misunderstood your post was all. Take it easy. Hemp and Cannibus are derivatives of the same plant, and although I do understand the differences between the two, they are considered basically the same by many. Keep in mind, none of your multitude of posts made it clear you WEREN'T in support of recreational pot either.

SO, let's get this clear so I don't make the same mistake again: Are you for, against (or in the fence as to) the legalization of CANNIBUS for recreational usage?
Wether he says yes or no he is a closet yes. As it turns out he is in the closet with lots of things. We will see what the Nancy boy has to say.

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This is the goofiest thread....are you all high?
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Wether he says yes or no he is a closet yes. As it turns out he is in the closet with lots of things. We will see what the Nancy boy has to say.
I'm just trying to figure out what this guy is so adamant about. If it's just about medicinal marijuana last I heard that was legal in Michigan since 2008 if prescribed by a doctor. If he's simply touting the medicinal values of hemp, ok - why would anyone need more than one post to state that point?

I think Mr Wiggley should change his name to Mr Slippery, because he has a funny habit of not really answering a question with a solid answer. Maybe that's the game he's playing on us. If you have to pin someone down with 3 questions just to get one answer, you have to assume they're either full of BS or they're playing you.

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Oneal wrote:
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On post #310 you wrote this:
"Of course I support the medical usage of cannibus. I also support and hope hemp will be decriminalized....".
I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. I just misunderstood your post was all. Take it easy. Hemp and Cannibus are derivatives of the same plant, and although I do understand the differences between the two, they are considered basically the same by many. Keep in mind, none of your multitude of posts made it clear you WEREN'T in support of recreational pot either.
SO, let's get this clear so I don't make the same mistake again: Are you for, against (or in the fence as to) the legalization of CANNIBUS for recreational usage?
Most people do not understand the difference between cannibus and hemp...I can only hope you would support the education of those who need that education.
As far as your demanding certain things from me I'd also demand (or request) some things in return.
There are individuals who have made many false accusations about me on this thread...robby comes to mind. Are you willing to stand up and do the responsible thing and tell those folks they are out of line and need to stand down??

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Oneal wrote:
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I'm just trying to figure out what this guy is so adamant about. If it's just about medicinal marijuana last I heard that was legal in Michigan since 2008 if prescribed by a doctor. If he's simply touting the medicinal values of hemp, ok - why would anyone need more than one post to state that point?
I think Mr Wiggley should change his name to Mr Slippery, because he has a funny habit of not really answering a question with a solid answer. Maybe that's the game he's playing on us. If you have to pin someone down with 3 questions just to get one answer, you have to assume they're either full of BS or they're playing you.
After just posting you know the difference between cannibus and hemp you post here that I'm "touting hte medicinal values of hemp".
THERE ARE NO MEDICINAL VALUES ASSOCIATED WITH HEMP...THERE NEVER WAS...
You clearly don't know what you are talking about...
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Mr Wiggley wrote:
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Most people do not understand the difference between cannibus and hemp...I can only hope you would support the education of those who need that education.
As far as your demanding certain things from me I'd also demand (or request) some things in return.
There are individuals who have made many false accusations about me on this thread...robby comes to mind. Are you willing to stand up and do the responsible thing and tell those folks they are out of line and need to stand down??
Rob the fraud is incapable of being 'educated'. Are you with me on that one? Same goes for 'Rob's bastard kids and cousins on here (I'd name them but I think you know who they are) who lack even a scintilla of reasoning ability. They're locked on stupid. And that's saying it mildly. While I agree with most if not all of what you state on here, I think you don't understand very well the level of stupid you're dealing with when 'Rob' and his bastard kids and cousins are in the equation.
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Oneal wrote:
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I'm just trying to figure out what this guy is so adamant about. If it's just about medicinal marijuana last I heard that was legal in Michigan since 2008 if prescribed by a doctor. If he's simply touting the medicinal values of hemp, ok - why would anyone need more than one post to state that point?
I think Mr Wiggley should change his name to Mr Slippery, because he has a funny habit of not really answering a question with a solid answer. Maybe that's the game he's playing on us. If you have to pin someone down with 3 questions just to get one answer, you have to assume they're either full of BS or they're playing you.
Wiggley has made his point in regard to MJ, Hemp numerous times. Are you that stupid you want to repeatedly find fault with his view, mock and debase his position, his character, everything about him because you are continually stuck on stupid?

Why don't you just make your out-of-touch with reality point and leave it alone. You're the same way with the Benghazi issue, gun control, O care and everything else you open your empty head and big mouth about. Don't you have enough to do but spend hours out of the day on here posting utterly ridiculous statements and pretending like you know what you're talking about.

Just answer that Dr. Dread. I bet you can't even make a decent, reasonable effort at that.

You need to expand your horizons, get away from the white trash, trailer park mentality that has consumed you. There's a whole big wide world out there to be explored.

It must totally suck to be locked on stupid with the likes of your bastard kid Rob. God help both of you, and the rest of us too.
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Phil wrote:
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Wether he says yes or no he is a closet yes. As it turns out he is in the closet with lots of things. We will see what the Nancy boy has to say.
You're one of those people who should not have access to a keyboard, phone, computer or other digital device, except maybe a vibrator you could play with and entertain yourself all day with. You would probably even be dangerous with that.

What the f is the matter with you? It must be true you lock yourself inside (mom's basement) 24 hours a day and don't have much, if any contact with the outside world, because I'm certain if you did, you'd be another statistic, we'd be reading about in the morning, someone who ended up being slapped silly, or worse, by someone you opened your mouth to.
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After just posting you know the difference between cannibus and hemp you post here that I'm "touting hte medicinal values of hemp".
THERE ARE NO MEDICINAL VALUES ASSOCIATED WITH HEMP...THERE NEVER WAS...
You clearly don't know what you are talking about...
Well, if you want to play that game: considering we've both been spelling cannabis wrong all along I'd say neither of us know enough about it to be experts. Cannabis is sometimes referred to as Indian HEMP, therefore maybe you should be more specific with your comments if you expect others to be perfectly accurate in regards to a name that often is used in conjunction. To me I don't give a tinker's damn about hemp or cannabis - you're the one trying to convince us "it" should be legalized. I'm just trying to get you to be more specific about what the "IT" is you want legalized.

Now, enough Mr Slippery games - answer the question please: Are you for, against, or on the fence regarding the legalization of recreational marijuana usage?
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LOL Dr. Dread is at it again. Trying to impress us, I guess.

Go ahead Wiggley explain your position again so these two clowns, Dr. Dread and his bastard kid, can ask you again what it is. Funny, but I know what it is since you first started explaining it. Geez, give me extra credit points.

In any case, How did Einstein defined insanity? Maybe he should have included stupidity into that equation? LOL
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Ya, go ahead Wiggley and also explain to us if you condone what you say under your poledancer name. Do you remember you just wanted to but all that anger and venom aside? You just want to find what we agree on.

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