Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#300 May 9, 2013
SOS in Mesa wrote:
This is pretty sad. I know 10 year olds that are able to have a discussion without resorting to threats and name calling. What is next "my dad can beat up your dad"?
I agree.
sad
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#301 May 10, 2013
vox veritatis wrote:
<quoted text>
Pathological need to declare himself the winner no matter how badly he's getting spanked. Come to think of it, he probably enjoys getting spanked.
I've said all along these anti-conservative haters and progressive lapdogs will make crap up if they have nothing factual to support their hair-brained narratives.

I've no problem hearing them out if they have a fact-base, or even common sense point to make, but after this many posts from Wiggley regurgitating the same argumentative BS, and ultimately leading to his just deciding to make crap up and whine hypocritically about insults like a little girl, I've pretty much lost patience and interest in him/her on this and likely most every other subject of importance.

He and whoever this pipedream idiot are have done nothing but damage to themselves and their irresponsible pro-pot cause. They know it and now they're angry. Expect nothing but tantrum-throwing nonsense from them at this point. They're defeated and lack the class to just walk away.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#302 May 10, 2013
Oneal wrote:
<quoted text>
I've said all along these anti-conservative haters and progressive lapdogs will make crap up if they have nothing factual to support their hair-brained narratives.
I've no problem hearing them out if they have a fact-base, or even common sense point to make, but after this many posts from Wiggley regurgitating the same argumentative BS, and ultimately leading to his just deciding to make crap up and whine hypocritically about insults like a little girl, I've pretty much lost patience and interest in him/her on this and likely most every other subject of importance.
He and whoever this pipedream idiot are have done nothing but damage to themselves and their irresponsible pro-pot cause. They know it and now they're angry. Expect nothing but tantrum-throwing nonsense from them at this point. They're defeated and lack the class to just walk away.
Odd...you declare victory yet have not provided one link to disprove any of the several links I provided showing cannibus has been proven in several studies to be useful and helpful in the treatment of several medical ailments, even the AMA says it needs to be studied and could be very useful.
Of course, I'm supposed to believe you know more than the AMA and the studies done by Universities and such...
And apparently the majority of people in your state as well as many others agree and have made it legal for medicinal purposes.
Including...Washington D.C.
Then there's the false accusations...you have not yet provided any link to your claims that I supposedly said cannibus is harmless and/or non-addictive.
And why you translate disagreement into anger on my part is yet another false accusation. Methinks you need that as part of your hate training. Hopefully you don't teach that to children.

For once, try addressing all the points I have just made or concede you are wrong and should not have entered into this conversation.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#303 May 10, 2013
Dr Dread is just one messed up, confused little sap with deep personality and character defects he has so far in life, been unable to cope successfully with or reconcile. He's chosen to deal with all of this on Topix, though he knows down deep, despite vain, weak attempt, he can never 'Really' win an argument with facts, logic or any other way, except maybe 'made up facts' and regurgitating false, misleading or inaccurate claims made by other sources.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#304 May 10, 2013
vox veritatis wrote:
<quoted text>
Whining like a child isn't defending yourself. Your drug habit has you permanently stuck at a junior high maturity level; wanting to pick a fight and then crying how unfair it all is when you get a little bloody nose because you picked the wrong person to squabble with.
The only whining I've heard is the minority that lost the medical marijuana vote in Michigan.
Denying someone the choice to use cannibus for a medical reason as an alternative to highly addictive opiate based drugs is wrong, and the Michigan voters made you have to accept that.
Fantasizing you gave me a bloody nose only perpetuates your need to take your meds...soon.
Having fun slingin' sh1t and it just won't stick?? All you get from the deal is stinky hands...

vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#305 May 10, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
Denying someone the choice to use cannibus for a medical reason as an alternative to highly addictive opiate based drugs is wrong, and the Michigan voters made you have to accept that.
You know, Wiggler...those things can and have been overturned by the voters before once they got a good understanding of what they voted for and how it was affecting their state.
So...if the voters decide in a future vote to recind that approval, will you then be singing the praises of the oh-so-wise voters and pledging to accept and abide by their decision or will you be flinging yourself on the floor in full tantrum mode demanding your way? I think we all know the answer to that one based on your posts here.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#306 May 10, 2013
vox veritatis wrote:
<quoted text>
You know, Wiggler...those things can and have been overturned by the voters before once they got a good understanding of what they voted for and how it was affecting their state.
So...if the voters decide in a future vote to recind that approval, will you then be singing the praises of the oh-so-wise voters and pledging to accept and abide by their decision or will you be flinging yourself on the floor in full tantrum mode demanding your way? I think we all know the answer to that one based on your posts here.
LOL. o so funny you are. The movement to Legalize pot is definitely taking hold despite fierce efforts of state and local govt officials who are fighting it tooth and nail. The people on both sides of the issue have realized legalization makes sense from both a money angle. Just think of the billions upon billions wasted by the crazies enforcing outdated debunked laws on use and possession of small amounts. Yell, scream, bark and howl at the moon but your b.s. is falling on deaf ears.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#307 May 11, 2013
vox veritatis wrote:
<quoted text>
You know, Wiggler...those things can and have been overturned by the voters before once they got a good understanding of what they voted for and how it was affecting their state.
So...if the voters decide in a future vote to recind that approval, will you then be singing the praises of the oh-so-wise voters and pledging to accept and abide by their decision or will you be flinging yourself on the floor in full tantrum mode demanding your way? I think we all know the answer to that one based on your posts here.
So you clearly want to deny people the right to make Doctor supervised, informed choices with regards to their medication when they need it...I'm not surprised. Your narcissistic need to control everything as you see fit won't work in the 21st Century.
Which brings us to "flinging yourself on the floor in full tantrum"...based on your posts, it appears that's exactly what you are currently doing...and it's priceless!!!
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#308 May 11, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
Odd...you declare victory yet have not provided one link to disprove any of the several links I provided showing cannibus has been proven in several studies to be useful and helpful in the treatment of several medical ailments, even the AMA says it needs to be studied and could be very useful.
Of course, I'm supposed to believe you know more than the AMA and the studies done by Universities and such...
And apparently the majority of people in your state as well as many others agree and have made it legal for medicinal purposes.
Including...Washington D.C.
Then there's the false accusations...you have not yet provided any link to your claims that I supposedly said cannibus is harmless and/or non-addictive.
And why you translate disagreement into anger on my part is yet another false accusation. Methinks you need that as part of your hate training. Hopefully you don't teach that to children.
For once, try addressing all the points I have just made or concede you are wrong and should not have entered into this conversation.
I did provide links regarding pot being addictive, which is what I have been arguing this entire time. I'm not arguing whether pot can have medical values or not. If all of this bluster of yours has been about medical marijuana, I'll leave that up to the physicians to decide. Furthermore, if your concern for marijuana is strictly on a medicinal need -only level, I don't have a problem if physicians proscribe it and I'll concede a physician knows more about the properties and effects of marijuana than you or I.

Now, has your argument been strictly for medicinal marijuana usage, or are you also suggesting recreational pot smoking should be made legal too??

That's a rather direct question. Please answer, Wiggley.
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#309 May 11, 2013
pipedream wrote:
Dr Dread is just one messed up, confused little sap with deep personality and character defects he has so far in life, been unable to cope successfully with or reconcile. He's chosen to deal with all of this on Topix, though he knows down deep, despite vain, weak attempt, he can never 'Really' win an argument with facts, logic or any other way, except maybe 'made up facts' and regurgitating false, misleading or inaccurate claims made by other sources.
Will you stop stalking me, you crazy mf'er. I have no interest in your psycho ramblings at this point. You've become increasingly stupid and troll-like over time here, and it's doubtful anyone at this point gives a damn what you have to say. I no longer even read your posts, so don't waste your time.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#310 May 11, 2013
Oneal wrote:
<quoted text>
I did provide links regarding pot being addictive, which is what I have been arguing this entire time. I'm not arguing whether pot can have medical values or not. If all of this bluster of yours has been about medical marijuana, I'll leave that up to the physicians to decide. Furthermore, if your concern for marijuana is strictly on a medicinal need -only level, I don't have a problem if physicians proscribe it and I'll concede a physician knows more about the properties and effects of marijuana than you or I.
Now, has your argument been strictly for medicinal marijuana usage, or are you also suggesting recreational pot smoking should be made legal too??
That's a rather direct question. Please answer, Wiggley.
Of course I support the medical usage of cannibus. I also support and hope hemp will be decriminalized.
I really don't know why you would think otherwise unless you are allowing yourself to be influenced by rob and his crazy accusations.
Here's a ery interesting article from Fox News I found today.
It covers the positive and negative sides of medicinal marijuana but verifies what I have been saying all along...the last paragraph is important also...the delivery method should be improved...
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/05/10/trut...
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#311 May 11, 2013
Oneal wrote:
<quoted text>
Will you stop stalking me, you crazy mf'er. I have no interest in your psycho ramblings at this point. You've become increasingly stupid and troll-like over time here, and it's doubtful anyone at this point gives a damn what you have to say. I no longer even read your posts, so don't waste your time.
The truth hurts eh Dr. Dread?
Rob

United States

#312 May 11, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>So you clearly want to deny people the right to make Doctor supervised, informed choices with regards to their medication when they need it...I'm not surprised. Your narcissistic need to control everything as you see fit won't work in the 21st Century.
Which brings us to "flinging yourself on the floor in full tantrum"...based on your posts, it appears that's exactly what you are currently doing...and it's priceless!!!
You describe yourself very well. Must you always try to accuse others of being like you? Most people try not to be like you. Just go smoke another one and go back to bed.
Rob

United States

#313 May 11, 2013
Oneal wrote:
<quoted text>I did provide links regarding pot being addictive, which is what I have been arguing this entire time. I'm not arguing whether pot can have medical values or not. If all of this bluster of yours has been about medical marijuana, I'll leave that up to the physicians to decide. Furthermore, if your concern for marijuana is strictly on a medicinal need -only level, I don't have a problem if physicians proscribe it and I'll concede a physician knows more about the properties and effects of marijuana than you or I.

Now, has your argument been strictly for medicinal marijuana usage, or are you also suggesting recreational pot smoking should be made legal too??

That's a rather direct question. Please answer, Wiggley.
We don't need doctors, we got this pothead! He knows everything about getting high.
Rob

United States

#314 May 11, 2013
Oneal wrote:
<quoted text>Will you stop stalking me, you crazy mf'er. I have no interest in your psycho ramblings at this point. You've become increasingly stupid and troll-like over time here, and it's doubtful anyone at this point gives a damn what you have to say. I no longer even read your posts, so don't waste your time.
Good luck with that!
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#315 May 11, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
So you clearly want to deny people the right to make Doctor supervised, informed choices with regards to their medication when they need it...
Not at all. I want it treated like every other mind altering, addictive drug on the market that is marketed for 'pain relief': available only at controlled dosages/quantities with a prescription, through a pharmacy with production, quality and potency supervised by the FDA.
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#316 May 11, 2013
Oh....and they probably shouldn't be allowed to have firearms, either, since that was the original topic.
Rob

United States

#317 May 11, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>Of course I support the medical usage of cannibus. I also support and hope hemp will be decriminalized.
I really don't know why you would think otherwise unless you are allowing yourself to be influenced by rob and his crazy accusations.
Here's a ery interesting article from Fox News I found today.
It covers the positive and negative sides of medicinal marijuana but verifies what I have been saying all along...the last paragraph is important also...the delivery method should be improved...
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/05/10/trut...
Oh ya. You are the one infatuated with pot. You admitted being a user. Everyone else was ready to move on but you and your other personality (poledancer) are stuck on getting high and legalizing it. Eventually thinking you can MAKE everyone believe it is good and should be legal. Your a pothead that obviously used to much in the past. So don't blame me for your addicted abuse.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#318 May 11, 2013
vox veritatis wrote:
Oh....and they probably shouldn't be allowed to have firearms, either, since that was the original topic.
So you want cannibus treated like every other mind altering addictive drug when it comes to prescription usage but not when it comes to gun ownership??
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#319 May 11, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course I support the medical usage of cannibus. I also support and hope hemp will be decriminalized.
I really don't know why you would think otherwise unless you are allowing yourself to be influenced by rob and his crazy accusations.
Here's a ery interesting article from Fox News I found today.
It covers the positive and negative sides of medicinal marijuana but verifies what I have been saying all along...the last paragraph is important also...the delivery method should be improved...
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/05/10/trut...
All I can say to Wiggley is the same thing I've said before, medicinal marijuana, if monitored by a physician is one matter, decriminalizing pot for anyone to smoke is another matter altogether. Just like using pain killers - if monitored by a physician they can be a blessing to sufferers. If used for recreational purposes, they are addictive and dangerous. Pot is addictive, and if used just for getting high will lead to accidents, crime and add to the already enormous amount of substances people destroy their lives by becoming addicted to.

I've offered an argument against RECREATIONAL usage of pot; ADDICTION, and provided evidence to back it up. Can you provide a counter-argument that would cause anyone (who doesn't just want to get high like yourself) to support your cause?

Again, I'm talking about the recreational variety of legalized pot usage, not the physician-proscribed kind. Can you provide something that justifies legal recreational use of pot?

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