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Chip

Madison, WI

#124 Feb 12, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
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No! You said "I did, he responded and laughed, can you believe people pay me to write articles to suit their argument no matter how wrong the facts are."
You said he told you the facts are wrong.
You can't even get it right when you make it up.
Oh no will you ever forgive me. Interesting this still doesn't change that the article used mostly information that have no relation the title, which was the point that seems to continue to elude your small mind.
Chip

Madison, WI

#125 Feb 12, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
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FLBeaver did when he said "Regarding Paine, I know who he is and in some ways Iím surprised you quote him. Whether one considers him a Marxist or as an anarchist,"
Right along with you he comes with all these disjointed explanations that sound good to the woefully uninformed but.. Even, as I pointed out Reagan saying in a speech "We have received this progressive tax direct from Karl Marx, who designed it as the prime essential of a socialist state."
The writings of Thomas Paine were EVERY influential in the fundamentals of the founding of this country in the minds of the founding fathers. So it only follows that conservatives believe the founding of this country was based on socialism, and Marxism, and don't like it to this day.
It would be impossible for Paine to (especially) be or even called a Marxist for the reasons I have explained. So that he even considers Paine a (possible) Marxist...and for Reagan to say the progressive tax came from Karl Marx only goes to prove the intellectual level of conservatives. Intellect and education are not synonymous. But it would seem being also uninformed would get in the way.
Maybe you should look up figurative, clearly the definition escapes you.
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#126 Feb 12, 2013
Chip wrote:
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Maybe you should look up figurative, clearly the definition escapes you.
Figurative was never included in FLBeavers post of even Reagan's speech. You want figurative taken into consideration then use in the original argument.

And even figurative(ly) doesn't apply. You simply can not accuse Paine or compare him to being a Marxist because of the time line. Marx would have to be a Painest.

How in the world did you ever write a thesis.
pipedream

Flint, MI

#128 Feb 12, 2013
Chip wrote:
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Wow, that was difficult to find.
The United States holds the dubious distinction of having the developed world's highest corporate tax rate after Japan's dropped to 38.01 percent, setting the stage for much political posturing but probably little tax reform.
Japan and the United States have been tied for the top combined, statutory corporate rate, with levies of 39.5 percent and 39.2 percent, respectively. These rates include central government, regional and local taxes.
Japan's reduction on Sunday, prompted by years of pressure from Japanese politicians hoping to spur economic growth, gave that country the world's second-highest rate.
http://www.moneynews.com/StreetTalk/US-Corpor...
That the U.S. has high statutory corporate tax rates is a constant claim from your type who blame the supposedly high U.S. corporate tax rate for discouraging job creation. But since you're so clever you ought to also know that while the U.S. has a high statutory corporate tax rate (meaning the rate on paper), U.S. corporations actually pay incredibly low taxes due to the ever-proliferating loopholes, credits, and deductions in the tax code and the use of overseas tax havens.

U.S.corporate taxes that were actually paid (the effective rate) fell to a 40 year low of 12.1 percent in fiscal year 2011, despite corporate profits rebounding to their pre-Great Recession heights. The U.S. both taxes its corporations LESS and RAISES LESS in revenue from corporate taxes than almost every other developed country. Hence our federal deficits. Prove that this is not true or just shut up because no one wants to hear your line of garbage.

Republicans and teabaggers like yourself have no interest in reducing the federal deficit by closing loopholes and cracking down on overseas tax havens WHICH IS THE REAL ISSUE NOT THAT CORPORATIONS PAY TOO MUCH. Its simply NOT true that corporate tax rates are excessive and is strangling our competitiveness. The PROBLEM is corporate greed. AND that is going to be addressed.

Really

Berrien Springs, MI

#130 Feb 12, 2013
pipedream wrote:
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That the U.S. has high statutory corporate tax rates is a constant claim from your type who blame the supposedly high U.S. corporate tax rate for discouraging job creation. But since you're so clever you ought to also know that while the U.S. has a high statutory corporate tax rate (meaning the rate on paper), U.S. corporations actually pay incredibly low taxes due to the ever-proliferating loopholes, credits, and deductions in the tax code and the use of overseas tax havens.
U.S.corporate taxes that were actually paid (the effective rate) fell to a 40 year low of 12.1 percent in fiscal year 2011, despite corporate profits rebounding to their pre-Great Recession heights. The U.S. both taxes its corporations LESS and RAISES LESS in revenue from corporate taxes than almost every other developed country. Hence our federal deficits. Prove that this is not true or just shut up because no one wants to hear your line of garbage.
Republicans and teabaggers like yourself have no interest in reducing the federal deficit by closing loopholes and cracking down on overseas tax havens WHICH IS THE REAL ISSUE NOT THAT CORPORATIONS PAY TOO MUCH. Its simply NOT true that corporate tax rates are excessive and is strangling our competitiveness. The PROBLEM is corporate greed. AND that is going to be addressed.
What you know would fit on the head of pin with a whole heck of a lot of room left over. Quit whining..it's patriotic to give, the Vice President said so.
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#131 Feb 12, 2013
pipedream wrote:
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That the U.S. has high statutory corporate tax rates is a constant claim from your type who blame the supposedly high U.S. corporate tax rate for discouraging job creation. But since you're so clever you ought to also know that while the U.S. has a high statutory corporate tax rate (meaning the rate on paper), U.S. corporations actually pay incredibly low taxes due to the ever-proliferating loopholes, credits, and deductions in the tax code and the use of overseas tax havens.
U.S.corporate taxes that were actually paid (the effective rate) fell to a 40 year low of 12.1 percent in fiscal year 2011, despite corporate profits rebounding to their pre-Great Recession heights. The U.S. both taxes its corporations LESS and RAISES LESS in revenue from corporate taxes than almost every other developed country. Hence our federal deficits. Prove that this is not true or just shut up because no one wants to hear your line of garbage.
Republicans and teabaggers like yourself have no interest in reducing the federal deficit by closing loopholes and cracking down on overseas tax havens WHICH IS THE REAL ISSUE NOT THAT CORPORATIONS PAY TOO MUCH. Its simply NOT true that corporate tax rates are excessive and is strangling our competitiveness. The PROBLEM is corporate greed. AND that is going to be addressed.
I posted effectively the same information with the link a while back. They refuse to want to believe it. Even Chip has said he doesn't bother to read, at least thoroughly, the links I post because he can see from a cursory view that they are bull.

But then we now know facts can be wrong...according to Chip.
Chip

Rockford, IL

#132 Feb 12, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
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Figurative was never included in FLBeavers post of even Reagan's speech. You want figurative taken into consideration then use in the original argument.
And even figurative(ly) doesn't apply. You simply can not accuse Paine or compare him to being a Marxist because of the time line. Marx would have to be a Painest.
How in the world did you ever write a thesis.
Clearly your still too stupid to grasp the obvious, no real point in explaining something to a brick wall.

My thesis was graded by someone with a brain, something you lack.
Chip

Rockford, IL

#134 Feb 12, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
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I posted effectively the same information with the link a while back. They refuse to want to believe it. Even Chip has said he doesn't bother to read, at least thoroughly, the links I post because he can see from a cursory view that they are bull.
But then we now know facts can be wrong...according to Chip.
It's not about believing it, its about the companies that can't get the credits or the deductions, then wind of paying high rates. It's about the high tax rates paid on incremental income beyond the credits and deductions that still incentivizes businesses to move operations offshore. It's a system designed for the government to have the power to pick winners and losers. What I have said and always said is that we need to reduce rates and get rid of all the credits, special deductions, etc.
pipedream

Flint, MI

#135 Feb 12, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>What you know would fit on the head of pin with a whole heck of a lot of room left over. Quit whining..it's patriotic to give, the Vice President said so.
Haha. you're the pin head not to mention a complete a%%hole on these boards. You're incapable of a half an ounce of critical thinking. All you spew is lib this and dem that and conservatives and their business model is it. You don't have a clue and you show it everytime your fingers wander a keyboard.
pipedream

Flint, MI

#136 Feb 12, 2013
Chip wrote:
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Clearly your still too stupid to grasp the obvious, no real point in explaining something to a brick wall.
My thesis was graded by someone with a brain, something you lack.
what do you mean still too stupid to grasp the obvious, unless you're describing yourself. Talk about stupid. And your thesis huh? haha got news for you. I took your thesis this morning after coffee but flushed it down the toilet. You think you're so smart but like your half brother Really not an ounce of critical thinking skills or common sense between the two of you. I bet you're less than 25 and still wet behind the years. Probably never had a real job. and why do your posts show up with so many different ISPs? San Clemente, Madison and tonight a completely different one? you're using a proxy server to disguise your true location aren't you? Got something to hide? That means you're a topix troll too and that means your kind is a dime a dozen.
pipedream

Flint, MI

#138 Feb 12, 2013
Chip wrote:
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It's not about believing it, its about the companies that can't get the credits or the deductions, then wind of paying high rates. It's about the high tax rates paid on incremental income beyond the credits and deductions that still incentivizes businesses to move operations offshore. It's a system designed for the government to have the power to pick winners and losers. What I have said and always said is that we need to reduce rates and get rid of all the credits, special deductions, etc.
Its about companies that can't get the credits? Thats complete bull shit. Corporations have numerous ways to file their returns and routinely do it in a way that minimize their tax liability to disgustingly low levels. Tax rates paid on incremental income beyond the credits and deductions? Hahaha. More crapola from the boy accountant here in our midst. Just who are you trying to kid? It was stated in BLACK AND WHITE in previous posts what the effective corporate tax rate is that's paid to the govt. Its the lowest its been in 40 years or more. 12.1% in fact Corporations skim and they cheat and they come to the trough ALL the time looking for more handouts. Get out of here with your crazy shit.
pipedream

Flint, MI

#139 Feb 12, 2013
china wrote:
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Your starting to talk in circles. Shut up and take your meds Jason!
another name? you should try a different board one that caters to the 12 - 15 year old range for socially challenged punks like yourself. just make sure your mother knows what you're doing.
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#141 Feb 12, 2013
Chip wrote:
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It's not about believing it, its about the companies that can't get the credits or the deductions, then wind of paying high rates. It's about the high tax rates paid on incremental income beyond the credits and deductions that still incentivizes businesses to move operations offshore. It's a system designed for the government to have the power to pick winners and losers. What I have said and always said is that we need to reduce rates and get rid of all the credits, special deductions, etc.
I still haven't seen your solution to the tax problems you so "skillfully", not, point out. SO Mr. CPA MBA with an emphasis on economics, what is it? You state you have the skill set to know where it is wrong now use it expound on how to correct it.

In simpler terms, what is your proposal for rectifying it? And saying lowering tax rates without details IS NOT a resolution.
Chip

Rockford, IL

#142 Feb 12, 2013
pipedream wrote:
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Its about companies that can't get the credits? Thats complete bull shit. Corporations have numerous ways to file their returns and routinely do it in a way that minimize their tax liability to disgustingly low levels. Tax rates paid on incremental income beyond the credits and deductions? Hahaha. More crapola from the boy accountant here in our midst. Just who are you trying to kid? It was stated in BLACK AND WHITE in previous posts what the effective corporate tax rate is that's paid to the govt. Its the lowest its been in 40 years or more. 12.1% in fact Corporations skim and they cheat and they come to the trough ALL the time looking for more handouts. Get out of here with your crazy shit.
I suspected you were an idiot, thanks for removing all doubt.
Chip

Rockford, IL

#143 Feb 12, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
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I still haven't seen your solution to the tax problems you so "skillfully", not, point out. SO Mr. CPA MBA with an emphasis on economics, what is it? You state you have the skill set to know where it is wrong now use it expound on how to correct it.
In simpler terms, what is your proposal for rectifying it? And saying lowering tax rates without details IS NOT a resolution.
get rid of all corporate tax credits, make it illegal for government to "invest" in private industry and lower tax rates to 20%
pipedream

Flint, MI

#144 Feb 12, 2013
Chip wrote:
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I suspected you were an idiot, thanks for removing all doubt.
That's all you know how to respond isn't it jackass? Not sure who you're trying to impress here but you've got a ways to go there boy accountant.
Chip

Rockford, IL

#145 Feb 12, 2013
pipedream wrote:
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Its about companies that can't get the credits? Thats complete bull shit. Corporations have numerous ways to file their returns and routinely do it in a way that minimize their tax liability to disgustingly low levels. Tax rates paid on incremental income beyond the credits and deductions? Hahaha. More crapola from the boy accountant here in our midst. Just who are you trying to kid? It was stated in BLACK AND WHITE in previous posts what the effective corporate tax rate is that's paid to the govt. Its the lowest its been in 40 years or more. 12.1% in fact Corporations skim and they cheat and they come to the trough ALL the time looking for more handouts. Get out of here with your crazy shit.
You do understand that 12.1% is not calculated correctly don't you. But hey, you know better than I do don't you.
pipedream

Flint, MI

#146 Feb 12, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
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Figurative was never included in FLBeavers post of even Reagan's speech. You want figurative taken into consideration then use in the original argument.
And even figurative(ly) doesn't apply. You simply can not accuse Paine or compare him to being a Marxist because of the time line. Marx would have to be a Painest.
How in the world did you ever write a thesis.
If boy accountant did in fact 'write' a thesis, which I doubt he did, I do believe it was written on a roll of toilet paper. Easier to flush. Anyone who would spout off on Topix that he's written a thesis, has a CPA, MBA etc., usually is lying.
pipedream

Flint, MI

#147 Feb 12, 2013
Chip wrote:
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get rid of all corporate tax credits, make it illegal for government to "invest" in private industry and lower tax rates to 20%
And that's your thesis? You got that on the Herman Cain U.? lol or was it the Cain Train? You are a piece of work dude.
pipedream

Flint, MI

#148 Feb 12, 2013
Chip wrote:
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You do understand that 12.1% is not calculated correctly don't you. But hey, you know better than I do don't you.
I'm suppose to disregard 12.1% as the effect tax rate and believe its a number that resulted from another another conspiracy ... and believe you? lol

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