Obamacare Failing Already
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#43 Oct 8, 2013
free thinker wrote:
<quoted text>
Your 6 K premium doesn't cover that. Everybody else in the insurance pool covers your cancer illness that could have been prevented if you hadn't smoked 3 packs a day your whole damn life and when there's not enough money in the insurance pool to cover those treatments for the number of insured drawing on it, guess what happens? Yup...the rules of what's covered and what isn't, change and suddenly grandma is offered a suicide pill instead of chemo because....well....it's cheaper.
Let me help you in on a little secret...... Cancer can be caused by much more than a three pack a day habit.

What's your answer to the 13,000+ children that come down with some form of cancer each year?

Under the prior system, insurance companies simply waited for them to either reach adulthood to refuse coverage to them, or for them to hit the maximum ceiling to cut them off.

Fortunately, the ACA is going to make sure that the survivors won't be able to discriminate against them anymore.
Good Neighbor

Hudsonville, MI

#44 Oct 8, 2013
I'm thinking about petitioning for an auto insurance plan that you can pick up after you have an accident. Insurance is a right and it will be less costly than paying premiums and never having a claim!
free thinker

Farmington, MI

#45 Oct 8, 2013
Good Neighbor wrote:
Insurance is a right
Baloney, pure and simple.
free thinker

Farmington, MI

#46 Oct 8, 2013
Bob wrote:
Fortunately, the ACA is going to make sure that the survivors won't be able to discriminate against them anymore.
Nope...they'll just offer you a suicide pill when there's little money in the coffers and you're no longer deemed 'viable' and the cost of treating you is more than they can hope to get out of you in future premiums. But hey...at least they won't discriminate...everyone will be subject to that policy. Won't that be fun, tacobob?

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#47 Oct 8, 2013
free thinker wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope...they'll just offer you a suicide pill when there's little money in the coffers and you're no longer deemed 'viable' and the cost of treating you is more than they can hope to get out of you in future premiums. But hey...at least they won't discriminate...everyone will be subject to that policy. Won't that be fun, tacobob?
Wouldn't that be congruent to assisted suicide?
Have they changed that law also??
Really

Wyoming, MI

#48 Oct 8, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
Wouldn't that be congruent to assisted suicide?
Have they changed that law also??
Not when they ignore it like they do other laws.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Brighton, MI

#49 Oct 8, 2013
This administration is out of control and non constitutional....... Where are the lawsuits.....

“Come and get it! ”

Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#50 Oct 8, 2013
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
This administration is out of control and non constitutional....... Where are the lawsuits.....
I'm wondering the same thing. Glenn Beck was right, I don't recognize my country anymore.
Dr X

Byron Center, MI

#51 Oct 8, 2013
Sneaky Pete wrote:
<quoted text>I'm wondering the same thing. Glenn Beck was right, I don't recognize my country anymore.
The process of a revolt is the duty of every American citizen should the government truly become that which the United States Constitution expressively forbids. Take note Obama. You're not transforming anything.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#52 Oct 9, 2013
free thinker wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope...they'll just offer you a suicide pill when there's little money in the coffers and you're no longer deemed 'viable' and the cost of treating you is more than they can hope to get out of you in future premiums. But hey...at least they won't discriminate...everyone will be subject to that policy. Won't that be fun, tacobob?
But hey......

If Michelle Bachmann says it, it's got to be true. Must be why you fanatics can't provide a direct link to those death panels!
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#53 Oct 9, 2013
Dr X wrote:
<quoted text>The process of a revolt is the duty of every American citizen should the government truly become that which the United States Constitution expressively forbids. Take note Obama. You're not transforming anything.
Why is it that you are always talking and NEVER doing anything about all of these supposed outrages?

Chicken-Hawk Much?
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Farmington, MI

#54 Oct 9, 2013
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Why is it that you are always talking and NEVER doing anything about all of these supposed outrages?
Chicken-Hawk Much?
Come out of Pappys. Your Moped is about to be stolen from the parking lot. You don't think these outrages happened? You are a low information voter....... You wasted the taxpayer dollar on your education..... The O is dumb.......
Oneal

Three Rivers, MI

#55 Oct 9, 2013
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/201...

[One week into the launch of Obamacare: itís literally easier to blog from the Kenyan border than to sign up for insurance on Obamacareís federal exchange...]

"We warned you" Much?

Hope Bob got his tinfoil Obamacare plan secured before the site crashed again. He needs his meds or there will be no window unlicked!

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#56 Oct 9, 2013
Oneal wrote:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/th eapothecary/2013/10/09/now-we- know-obamacares-exchanges-are- a-third-world-experience/?part ner=yahootix
[One week into the launch of Obamacare: itís literally easier to blog from the Kenyan border than to sign up for insurance on Obamacareís federal exchange...]
"We warned you" Much?
Hope Bob got his tinfoil Obamacare plan secured before the site crashed again. He needs his meds or there will be no window unlicked!
The really bad thing here is the probability that the website not being ready leaves one to doubt the other aspects mentioned in the article such as security and accuracy.
Given the information thusfar, I'd advise anyone to wait, pay the fine for the first year, and see what happens. It would be a lot harder ro try to recover from identity theft than to pay a small fine in the long run.
Oneal

Three Rivers, MI

#57 Oct 9, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
The really bad thing here is the probability that the website not being ready leaves one to doubt the other aspects mentioned in the article such as security and accuracy.
Given the information thusfar, I'd advise anyone to wait, pay the fine for the first year, and see what happens. It would be a lot harder ro try to recover from identity theft than to pay a small fine in the long run.
Obama's campaign slogan meets his signature train wreck:

CHANGE your physician and HOPE your identity doesn't get stolen!

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#58 Oct 9, 2013
Oneal wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama's campaign slogan meets his signature train wreck:
CHANGE your physician and HOPE your identity doesn't get stolen!
Haha...good one...
Dr X

Byron Center, MI

#59 Oct 9, 2013
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Why is it that you are always talking and NEVER doing anything about all of these supposed outrages?
Chicken-Hawk Much?
Most of my posts come at night. Where do you think I go in the morning, afternoon...etc? It's called a job. And I am involved in political circles which require actual FACE TO FACE meetings with those who share a common interest. That interest would be seeing certain factions of the Federal government follow the Constitution as well as the laws that document has established. I also network with people who are anti-socialist-like myself- and are actively planning the destruction of the progressive cause with any means in my personal power or the collective power of Americans like myself. You see Bobby Boy, I am a law-abiding citizen who uses the power of separation of powers, voting, political pressure..etc to make the changes I and others believe in. Of course, should there come a time when the above no longer function properly or have been suppressed, then I have another answer for you and the leftist dogs. That answer will not be written so don't bother looking for it.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#60 Oct 10, 2013
Oneal wrote:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/th eapothecary/2013/10/09/now-we- know-obamacares-exchanges-are- a-third-world-experience/?part ner=yahootix
[One week into the launch of Obamacare: itís literally easier to blog from the Kenyan border than to sign up for insurance on Obamacareís federal exchange...]
"We warned you" Much?
Hope Bob got his tinfoil Obamacare plan secured before the site crashed again. He needs his meds or there will be no window unlicked!
So now we are to accept as fact, that anything that fails after one week should be abandoned?

You idiots have been trying for over three years to defund the ACA, can we chalk that up to failure?

You obstructionists made it a priority to make Obama a one term President... There's a word for how you did.

As a matter of fact, the only thing any of you baggers have done in less than a week is to have your golden boy stand up in front of an empty Senate to show off his Fauxlibuster...

I guess that fits in with the latest Gallup poll that shows your party has now hit another low point with a 28% approval rating as compared to the democrats with a rating of 43%.

If the democrats were smart, they wouldn't accept a deal on the CR or the Debt Limit that went beyond next year's mid-term elections. Baggers can't help but shoot themselves in the foot over and over again!
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#62 Oct 10, 2013
Dr X wrote:
<quoted text>Most of my posts come at night. Where do you think I go in the morning, afternoon...etc? It's called a job. And I am involved in political circles which require actual FACE TO FACE meetings with those who share a common interest. That interest would be seeing certain factions of the Federal government follow the Constitution as well as the laws that document has established. I also network with people who are anti-socialist-like myself- and are actively planning the destruction of the progressive cause with any means in my personal power or the collective power of Americans like myself. You see Bobby Boy, I am a law-abiding citizen who uses the power of separation of powers, voting, political pressure..etc to make the changes I and others believe in. Of course, should there come a time when the above no longer function properly or have been suppressed, then I have another answer for you and the leftist dogs. That answer will not be written so don't bother looking for it.
Nice cut and paste job Dr. No!
Oneal

Three Rivers, MI

#63 Oct 10, 2013
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
So now we are to accept as fact, that anything that fails after one week should be abandoned?
You idiots have been trying for over three years to defund the ACA, can we chalk that up to failure?
You obstructionists made it a priority to make Obama a one term President... There's a word for how you did.
As a matter of fact, the only thing any of you baggers have done in less than a week is to have your golden boy stand up in front of an empty Senate to show off his Fauxlibuster...
I guess that fits in with the latest Gallup poll that shows your party has now hit another low point with a 28% approval rating as compared to the democrats with a rating of 43%.
If the democrats were smart, they wouldn't accept a deal on the CR or the Debt Limit that went beyond next year's mid-term elections. Baggers can't help but shoot themselves in the foot over and over again!
No, TacoBob, we fully expect you and the other regressive cattle to stuff your heads back in the dirt and let the facts of this "train wreck" go by you.

Here's some polling numbers for you to ignore:

A large number of Americans continue to adamantly oppose the nationís new health-care law and believe it will produce damaging results, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

Forty-four percent of respondents call the health-care law a bad idea, while 31 percent believe itís a good idea ó virtually unchanged from Julyís NBC/WSJ survey.

By a 45 percent to 23 percent margin, Americans say it will have a negative impact on the countryís health-care system rather than a positive one.
And thatís the good news today for the Obama administration in ACA polling. A new poll from USA Today/Pew shows a majority in opposition Ö a growing majority. Not only do a majority oppose the bill, a narrow plurality now trusts Republicans more than Democrats on health-care policy for the first time in more than 20 years of Pew polling:

Opposition hits new highs: 53% disapprove of the health care law, the highest level since it was signed; 42% approve. By an even wider margin, intensity favors the opposition; 41% of those surveyed strongly disapprove while just 26% strongly approve. Fifty-three percent disapprove of Obamaís handling of health care policy, an historic high. And Democrats have lost their traditional advantage on the issue. For the first time in polling that stretches back more than two decades, Americans narrowly prefer Republicans in dealing with health care policy, 40%-39%.

A boost in approval for the law that followed the Supreme Court decision in July 2012 upholding most of its provisions, to 47% approve-43% disapprove, has disappeared.

Confusion continues: Only one in four say they understand the lawís impact on them and their families well while one-third say they have little or no understanding about how the law will work. Despite increasing education efforts by the administration, advocacy groups and some states, the percentage of Americans who donít understand the law has declined only modestly, to 34% from 44%, since it was passed.

Expectations are downbeat: Most havenít seen much impact from the law, but they are inclined to expect bad news down the road. Forty-one percent predict in coming years the effect on themselves and their families will be negative; just 25% think it will be positive. Even more, 47%, say the law will have a negative impact on the country as a whole; 35% expect a positive impact.

But we know, TacoBob, all we'll hear from you is "MMMoooooooOOOOO!!!! "

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