Russian decision a damper on adoptions, but options remain

Dec 29, 2012 Full story: Post-gazette.com 23

A handful of Pittsburgh-area families that were preparing to take in children from Russia were dealt setbacks Friday when that country's president signed a law barring Americans from adopting its orphans.

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#1 Dec 30, 2012
So sad for so many families, that are half-way through the process. Putin could of handled this much better by allowing those in the system to complete their adoptions, and freeze future ones...Orphans have such a dismal and bleak life in Russia....He has turned into a despot, just to remain in power....
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Southfield, MI

#2 Dec 30, 2012
Commies and Socialists usually are.......
Hey now

Grand Rapids, MI

#3 Dec 30, 2012
I say good for him. Maybe now all the Christian Reformers will be forced to adopt a US born baby. You know? The ones they force people to have and then no one wants? Of course a lot of them are black which is something they'll have to get over. I have to say, if I'm an orphaned Russian kid and have a choice of being raised poor and neglected or being raised by some whacked out religious family from west Michigan, I'm choosing poor and neglected everytime.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Brighton, MI

#4 Dec 30, 2012
Hey now wrote:
I say good for him. Maybe now all the Christian Reformers will be forced to adopt a US born baby. You know? The ones they force people to have and then no one wants? Of course a lot of them are black which is something they'll have to get over. I have to say, if I'm an orphaned Russian kid and have a choice of being raised poor and neglected or being raised by some whacked out religious family from west Michigan, I'm choosing poor and neglected everytime.
You need help.... Start with a shrink
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#5 Jan 1, 2013
Hey now wrote:
I say good for him. Maybe now all the Christian Reformers will be forced to adopt a US born baby. You know? The ones they force people to have and then no one wants? Of course a lot of them are black which is something they'll have to get over. I have to say, if I'm an orphaned Russian kid and have a choice of being raised poor and neglected or being raised by some whacked out religious family from west Michigan, I'm choosing poor and neglected everytime.
It's truly sad that you hate children so much and even more sad that you would deny a child a loving home simply because of your hatred of a branch of Christianity. Nobody is forcing anyone in this country to have a baby. In fact, I'd wager that far more girls and women are pressured INto abortion than OUT of one. The fact that there are over a million abortions here annually shows that clearly. Sadly, there are more adoptive couples waiting for children than there are adoptable children to adopt in this country (between 1 and 2 million couples waiting) which is why many are turning to other countries to adopt. The fact that the majority of the children needing adoptive families in this country are minority children is a shame to their ethnic groups...why are they not taking care of their own? White couples DO adopt children of other ethnicities but generally adoption agencies attempt to place children within their own ethnic group. Don't like that? Talk to the agencies arranging the adoptions and concince them why they should change their policies. Add to that the fact that black activist groups have lobbied actively opposing interracial adoptions and you have the nerve to suggest that the blame lies with the families waiting to adopt?
Ironic and that the country mourns when 20 children are killed by a madman, and rightly so, but applaud the fact that 1.2 million of them are slaughtered annually (with more than 16,000 of those being aborted pregnancies past 20 weeks gestation) and support it as a 'right'. No child should be executed simply because it is inconvenient.

Since: Oct 12

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#6 Jan 1, 2013
...Gotta feel awful for the famalies and orphan's that had been counting on joining together.....Hopefully is that last gangster-type Premier....
Hey now

Grand Rapids, MI

#7 Jan 1, 2013
vox veritatis wrote:
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It's truly sad that you hate children so much and even more sad that you would deny a child a loving home simply because of your hatred of a branch of Christianity. Nobody is forcing anyone in this country to have a baby. In fact, I'd wager that far more girls and women are pressured INto abortion than OUT of one. The fact that there are over a million abortions here annually shows that clearly. Sadly, there are more adoptive couples waiting for children than there are adoptable children to adopt in this country (between 1 and 2 million couples waiting) which is why many are turning to other countries to adopt. The fact that the majority of the children needing adoptive families in this country are minority children is a shame to their ethnic groups...why are they not taking care of their own? White couples DO adopt children of other ethnicities but generally adoption agencies attempt to place children within their own ethnic group. Don't like that? Talk to the agencies arranging the adoptions and concince them why they should change their policies. Add to that the fact that black activist groups have lobbied actively opposing interracial adoptions and you have the nerve to suggest that the blame lies with the families waiting to adopt?
Ironic and that the country mourns when 20 children are killed by a madman, and rightly so, but applaud the fact that 1.2 million of them are slaughtered annually (with more than 16,000 of those being aborted pregnancies past 20 weeks gestation) and support it as a 'right'. No child should be executed simply because it is inconvenient.
What's truly sad is these people won't adopt children right here in our own country. Of course a black ghetto baby wouldn't quite fit in on Sunday mornings while everyone is filing out of the Tahoe. Of course if they adopt a black baby from Ethiopia or Africa they get the chance to tell everyone what great people they are so those black babies are OK.
Really

Grand Rapids, MI

#8 Jan 1, 2013
Hey now wrote:
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What's truly sad is these people won't adopt children right here in our own country. Of course a black ghetto baby wouldn't quite fit in on Sunday mornings while everyone is filing out of the Tahoe. Of course if they adopt a black baby from Ethiopia or Africa they get the chance to tell everyone what great people they are so those black babies are OK.
No, the really sad thing is you making accusations that have no facts to go along with the accusations. Perhaps you should try adopting an African American baby in this country if you are white and then report back to the class about your success??? The groups that are against interracial adoptions are myriad and mostly African American groups. Try looking it up before making racist accusations.

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#9 Jan 1, 2013
Hey now wrote:
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What's truly sad is these people won't adopt children right here in our own country. Of course a black ghetto baby wouldn't quite fit in on Sunday mornings while everyone is filing out of the Tahoe. Of course if they adopt a black baby from Ethiopia or Africa they get the chance to tell everyone what great people they are so those black babies are OK.
How much research have you actually done on the process of adoption, in America? Do you know, just how difficult of easy the adoption process is in this country? Availability of black babies?....
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#10 Jan 2, 2013
I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but I am sure that every county has a number of children in foster care that are in need of a permanant home. Sadly, the majority of these children are older than the babies that everyone seems to be so eager to adopt.

For anyone that has the ability and desire to fill an empty nest, they could accomplish just as much good by taking on the duty of raising an older child. Perhaps more!
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Keego Harbor, MI

#11 Jan 2, 2013
Bob wrote:
I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but I am sure that every county has a number of children in foster care that are in need of a permanant home. Sadly, the majority of these children are older than the babies that everyone seems to be so eager to adopt.
For anyone that has the ability and desire to fill an empty nest, they could accomplish just as much good by taking on the duty of raising an older child. Perhaps more!
Use your vast govt resources and get a couple. I will end up paying for it anyways.....

Since: Oct 12

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#12 Jan 2, 2013
Bob wrote:
I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but I am sure that every county has a number of children in foster care that are in need of a permanant home. Sadly, the majority of these children are older than the babies that everyone seems to be so eager to adopt.
For anyone that has the ability and desire to fill an empty nest, they could accomplish just as much good by taking on the duty of raising an older child. Perhaps more!
If i am not wrong, foster kids still have ties to living parents, and aren't readily available for adoption...aren't they just removed for the parent's failure to provide proper maintainence?
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#13 Jan 2, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> If i am not wrong, foster kids still have ties to living parents, and aren't readily available for adoption...aren't they just removed for the parent's failure to provide proper maintainence?
Some are, but many aren't tied to their birth parents.

There have been too many children who have already explained why another person can be considered Mom or Dad for me to bother going into the complete definition. Having a hand in being there for conception doesn't hold the aura that it once did, and doesn't qualify for that label anymore.

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#14 Jan 2, 2013
Everything i have heard, leads me to believe the american adoption procedure is way too expensive and lawyer-friendly, to be viable. That is why many of these parents have detoured to China and Russia for their children....less hurdles....
swxxxt

Rochester, PA

#15 Jan 2, 2013
youtube.com/watch...
American have enough kids available to adopt kids.so
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#16 Jan 2, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
Everything i have heard, leads me to believe the american adoption procedure is way too expensive and lawyer-friendly, to be viable. That is why many of these parents have detoured to China and Russia for their children....less hurdles....
Probably a combination of less hurdles, plus more babies that are available for adoption. A perverted law of supply and demand if you know what I mean.

Of course, if I was a small child looking for adoptive parents, I'd want the authroties to make damn sure I didn't end up being picked by Sandy, or Batch......

Think about it!
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

New London, OH

#17 Jan 2, 2013
Bob wrote:
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Probably a combination of less hurdles, plus more babies that are available for adoption. A perverted law of supply and demand if you know what I mean.
Of course, if I was a small child looking for adoptive parents, I'd want the authroties to make damn sure I didn't end up being picked by Sandy, or Batch......
Think about it!
If you had kids to support...... Pay taxes at the same time........
Confused

Hudsonville, MI

#18 Jan 2, 2013
Hey now wrote:
<quoted text>
What's truly sad is these people won't adopt children right here in our own country. Of course a black ghetto baby wouldn't quite fit in on Sunday mornings while everyone is filing out of the Tahoe. Of course if they adopt a black baby from Ethiopia or Africa they get the chance to tell everyone what great people they are so those black babies are OK.
So what ghetto have you adopted from Know it All?
free thinker

Farmington, MI

#19 Jan 2, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
If i am not wrong, foster kids still have ties to living parents, and aren't readily available for adoption...aren't they just removed for the parent's failure to provide proper maintainence?
Not all kids in foster care have had parental rights terminated and because of that are not available for adoption; many of these children are eventually placed back in their homes or placed with a willing relative. Many more can be adopted but are difficult to place because they want to keep siblings together. Still others are difficult to place because they have emotional and/or physical challenges (many of these kids have been physically and emotionally traumatized and will require years of therapy to deal with it). It takes a special person or couple to adopt a special needs child and they require much support. Many of these 'older' children fit that category. Sad how people are criticizing people for not adopting black babies rather than criticizing the groups actively preventing those that WANT to from doing so.
Really

Grand Rapids, MI

#20 Jan 2, 2013
Bob wrote:
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Probably a combination of less hurdles, plus more babies that are available for adoption. A perverted law of supply and demand if you know what I mean.
Of course, if I was a small child looking for adoptive parents, I'd want the authroties to make damn sure I didn't end up being picked by Sandy, or Batch......
Think about it!
Really? and you think the children get to choose who adopts them? Now who is being stupid to the nth degree??? Of course, since you are the "expert" in such matters, is it only small boys you would adopt? After all, girls are so much trouble you know.

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