Is Global Warming a fact, true or false.

Created by Red_Fist on Jul 17, 2008

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athos

Grand Rapids, MI

#183 Aug 3, 2008
anotherupsetamerican wrote:
i was watching "when we left earth" and an astronaut was saying how when he first went to space, the earth was beautiful, and now you can see the smog above major cities. if global warming is a lie, why cant we reduce pollutants in the air we breathe? is it a lie to want to be healthy? or to pass a healthy environment on to my children? i know its above 90 in va tho
I can't dispute the Astronaut's comment. But tell me, what was the carbon footprint of the space launch he was on?

Since: Jul 08

woodbridge

#184 Aug 3, 2008
Red_Fist wrote:
My theory is the earth tilted off axis, is the reason for the different weather.
Turns out I aint the only one who thought that up, I will see if I can find the report.
Anf guess what ! remember "soccer moms"? and the "SUV".Well while Al Gore was in office when that all started.didn't hear a word then now did we.
the first to discover the wobble of our axis was the mayans.
Mark

Encino, CA

#185 Aug 3, 2008
anotherupsetamerican wrote:
i was watching "when we left earth" and an astronaut was saying how when he first went to space, the earth was beautiful, and now you can see the smog above major cities. if global warming is a lie, why cant we reduce pollutants in the air we breathe? is it a lie to want to be healthy? or to pass a healthy environment on to my children? i know its above 90 in va tho
US cities are way better then when the astronauts of apollo went into space. In fact in the last 20 years, air has cleared dramatically. Do you hear anybody complain about smog in LA. I personally used to make a driver thru Cincy and new I was getting close 20yrs ago cause the sky would turn gray. Now, sky is blue all the way thru. China, however, maybe they need to sign Kyoto, instead of US. They say it's really bad over there...They got our jobs and our smog.....We get to breathe

Since: Jul 08

woodbridge

#186 Aug 3, 2008
athos wrote:
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I can't dispute the Astronaut's comment. But tell me, what was the carbon footprint of the space launch he was on?
lets see, apollo 11 burned 15 tones of fuel a second per engine(quick search could be wrong), at 6 pounds per gallon, 5 minutes to atmosphere, something like 9,000,000 gallons per engine or something, Annabelle Gurwitch from the show wasted would say the carbon footprint would equal to us needing 100 more planets to sustain our space jet setting lifestyle. yeah i get what your saying, pot calling kettle black

Since: Jul 08

woodbridge

#187 Aug 3, 2008
it looks like it took 17 minutes, my math is wrong
Idea Maker

Cedar Springs, MI

#188 Aug 3, 2008
anotherupsetamerican wrote:
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lets see, apollo 11 burned 15 tones of fuel a second per engine(quick search could be wrong), at 6 pounds per gallon, 5 minutes to atmosphere, something like 9,000,000 gallons per engine or something, Annabelle Gurwitch from the show wasted would say the carbon footprint would equal to us needing 100 more planets to sustain our space jet setting lifestyle. yeah i get what your saying, pot calling kettle black
The "100 more planets" sounds like an exageration.

Space launches such as this, NASCAR, having an SUV in the Alaskan wilderness, etc. are all drops in the bucket. The REAL problem is things like a large number of people driving pretty much EVERYWHERE they go, or getting their power from coal, etc.

So, if you believe the global warming theory and like NASCAR and bonfires, enjoy your drops in the bucket.

Yes, you CAN fight global warming without being an extremist tree-hugger. Just use some moderation.

And no, the global warming theory isn't anti-American, or communist, or anti-capitalism ("Green" is a pretty good marketing strategy.), or anything along those lines. Don't buy into those conspiracy theories.

Since: Jul 08

Pleasanton, CA

#189 Aug 4, 2008
Idea Maker wrote:
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The "100 more planets" sounds like an exageration.
Space launches such as this, NASCAR, having an SUV in the Alaskan wilderness, etc. are all drops in the bucket. The REAL problem is things like a large number of people driving pretty much EVERYWHERE they go, or getting their power from coal, etc.
So, if you believe the global warming theory and like NASCAR and bonfires, enjoy your drops in the bucket.
Yes, you CAN fight global warming without being an extremist tree-hugger. Just use some moderation.
And no, the global warming theory isn't anti-American, or communist, or anti-capitalism ("Green" is a pretty good marketing strategy.), or anything along those lines. Don't buy into those conspiracy theories.
The trouble is that "green" is being driven by fear and coercion not marketing.
Shoeless Eluder

Flint, MI

#190 Aug 4, 2008
anotherupsetamerican wrote:
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the first to discover the wobble of our axis was the mayans.
According to some things I have heard the Mayans have also predicted that in the year 2012 on Dec. 21 the earth as we know it will change forever . Possible gamma ray burst . Maybe alien invasion . Maybe complete upheaval of the ocean floor . I have heard lots of theories . "The Coast to Coast show late night radio".

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#191 Aug 4, 2008
michael g wrote:
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Check out this quote, how do you argue with this type of muddy thinking....
Steven Guilbeault of Greenpeace explained, "Global warming can mean colder, it can mean drier, it can mean wetter; that's what we're dealing with."
From someone like yourself, who evidently has very little idea of how the Earth functions, I can see why you would call it 'muddy' thinking. Typical simpleton arguing a point without any amunition.

You see when the Earth warms and polar ice melts that ice is put into the ocean. The Earth's temperatures are regulated by ocean currents. Thats why places like England have a much warmer climate than parts of Alaska even though they share about the same latitude. Its called a delicate balance, its not as black and white as you perceive it to be.

When ice begins to melt and enter our oceans it has an effect on those ocean currents, it tends to re-direct them or even slow them down or possibly turn them off. One side effect of this happening is England's climate becoming more like that of Alaska (which is actually cooler!). Another side effect could be the opposite where Alaska's climate becomes much warmer due to a shift in the currents which some are now saying is happening. There are several towns within Alaska that are in jeopardy of losing their land due to Tidal Erosion.

I know its easier to put complex ideas, that you dont comprehend, and simplify them down into something you do understand. Unfortunately that doesnt mean the world will simplify itself to come down to your level. Its a complex place with a lot happening and the answers arent always clear and concise as you are used to -or- as you WISH them to be.

Since: Jul 08

Grand Rapids, MI

#192 Aug 4, 2008
Whuteva wrote:
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From someone like yourself, who evidently has very little idea of how the Earth functions, I can see why you would call it 'muddy' thinking. Typical simpleton arguing a point without any amunition.
You see when the Earth warms and polar ice melts that ice is put into the ocean. The Earth's temperatures are regulated by ocean currents. Thats why places like England have a much warmer climate than parts of Alaska even though they share about the same latitude. Its called a delicate balance, its not as black and white as you perceive it to be.
When ice begins to melt and enter our oceans it has an effect on those ocean currents, it tends to re-direct them or even slow them down or possibly turn them off. One side effect of this happening is England's climate becoming more like that of Alaska (which is actually cooler!). Another side effect could be the opposite where Alaska's climate becomes much warmer due to a shift in the currents which some are now saying is happening. There are several towns within Alaska that are in jeopardy of losing their land due to Tidal Erosion.
I know its easier to put complex ideas, that you dont comprehend, and simplify them down into something you do understand. Unfortunately that doesnt mean the world will simplify itself to come down to your level. Its a complex place with a lot happening and the answers arent always clear and concise as you are used to -or- as you WISH them to be.
Whut,

Can you tell me when the earth's climate wasn't changing?

Since: Jul 08

woodbridge

#193 Aug 4, 2008
Idea Maker wrote:
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The "100 more planets" sounds like an exageration.

obviously.

Space launches such as this, NASCAR, having an SUV in the Alaskan wilderness, etc. are all drops in the bucket. The REAL problem is things like a large number of people driving pretty much EVERYWHERE they go, or getting their power from coal, etc.

partially solar here, cuz i pay electricity, it just makes sense, and my township allows it

So, if you believe the global warming theory and like NASCAR and bonfires, enjoy your drops in the bucket.

no i dont like nascar or chew tobacco or beat my wife, i keep my ac off and use open windows and box fans, again, it costs to run the ac

Yes, you CAN fight global warming without being an extremist tree-hugger. Just use some moderation.
And no, the global warming theory isn't anti-American, or communist, or anti-capitalism ("Green" is a pretty good marketing strategy.), or anything along those lines. Don't buy into those conspiracy theories.
what have i bought into? i was responding to somebody responding to me, but ok you must have confused me with somebody else, that's ok

Since: Jul 08

woodbridge

#194 Aug 4, 2008
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
<quoted text>According to some things I have heard the Mayans have also predicted that in the year 2012 on Dec. 21 the earth as we know it will change forever . Possible gamma ray burst . Maybe alien invasion . Maybe complete upheaval of the ocean floor . I have heard lots of theories . "The Coast to Coast show late night radio".
i have come across a great many sites,most say we move across the galactic equator, i think the pols will shift since we will move to the southern hemisphere of our galaxy. really pluto will come in alignment with the galactic equator and all their dead mayan ancestors can ascend to the heavens, but it depends on which calander you go by they have three, we mostly see the short count, but this is not exactly the place to discuss it, like that your up on it tho

Since: Jul 08

Ann Arbor, MI

#195 Aug 4, 2008
Idea Maker wrote:
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("Green" is a pretty good marketing strategy.), or anything along those lines.
Heck yea it is. Just ask Al Gore.

btw, why not leave your AC on and just buy Cardon Credits?

Since: Jul 08

woodbridge

#196 Aug 4, 2008
aimNfire wrote:
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Whut,
Can you tell me when the earth's climate wasn't changing?
just because we didn't know it was changing didn't mean it wasn't, we hadn't named it a thousand years ago, and that also doesn't mean we arnt speeding it up now
Earth

Detroit, MI

#197 Aug 4, 2008
Whuteva wrote:
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From someone like yourself, who evidently has very little idea of how the Earth functions, I can see why you would call it 'muddy' thinking. Typical simpleton arguing a point without any amunition.
You see when the Earth warms and polar ice melts that ice is put into the ocean. The Earth's temperatures are regulated by ocean currents. Thats why places like England have a much warmer climate than parts of Alaska even though they share about the same latitude. Its called a delicate balance, its not as black and white as you perceive it to be.
When ice begins to melt and enter our oceans it has an effect on those ocean currents, it tends to re-direct them or even slow them down or possibly turn them off. One side effect of this happening is England's climate becoming more like that of Alaska (which is actually cooler!). Another side effect could be the opposite where Alaska's climate becomes much warmer due to a shift in the currents which some are now saying is happening. There are several towns within Alaska that are in jeopardy of losing their land due to Tidal Erosion.
I know its easier to put complex ideas, that you dont comprehend, and simplify them down into something you do understand. Unfortunately that doesnt mean the world will simplify itself to come down to your level. Its a complex place with a lot happening and the answers arent always clear and concise as you are used to -or- as you WISH them to be.
It is good to see you are able to understand the complexity of the Earth. Maybe you can tell me this. Why is it that the Earth was much warmer back in the day of dinosaurs then it is now, and how do we know the Earth is simply not correcting itself after the big explosion?? Thanks.

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#198 Aug 4, 2008
Earth wrote:
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Maybe you can tell me this. Why is it that the Earth was much warmer back in the day of dinosaurs then it is now.
I dont claim to know all the answers but I am pretty sure it had something to do with all the volcanic activity happening on earth about that time.
Earth

Detroit, MI

#199 Aug 4, 2008
Whuteva wrote:
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I dont claim to know all the answers but I am pretty sure it had something to do with all the volcanic activity happening on earth about that time.
Your Volcanic theory is a good one. As we all know the first major volcanic event destroyed the first part of life some 250 million years ago, but after that the Earth returned to a normal cycle, much like it is today. Even so the temperature was much warmer then today with no polar ice caps. It wasn't untill around 65 million years ago when there was a rise in volcanic activity - I think they called it Deccan Traps - Some even believe this helped kill off the Dinosaur. And yes the temperature did rise, but like I said it was already much warmer then today.

Since: Jul 08

Ann Arbor, MI

#200 Aug 4, 2008
anotherupsetamerican wrote:
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just because we didn't know it was changing didn't mean it wasn't, we hadn't named it a thousand years ago, and that also doesn't mean we arnt speeding it up now
It was changing.

It is changing.

Will always change.

“Taz say Hi”

Since: Jan 08

Holland,MI

#201 Aug 4, 2008
It will take a little time to go through it, but a good read on the subject is:
http://blogs.woodtv.com/category/wood-tv8-blo...

It has all the data and charts showing the variations in global temperatures over the years among other things.
MDG

Saint Charles, IL

#202 Aug 5, 2008
This global warming junk needs to stop. All it is doing is giving way to a new business "go green".

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