Is Terri Lynn Land a slumlord?

Created by Sak on Jan 7, 2012

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Yes, her apartments are ghetto & full of criminals

No

vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#21 Jan 17, 2012
BkByer wrote:
Are you saying that if you own rental property you MUST by law rent to anyone and everyone that applies and allow them to trash the joint anyway they wish?
I'm saying that the law says you may not discriminate in who you rent to (therefore, refusing a minority, even on valid grounds, could lead to a lawsuit that you would probably lose) and would you care to guess how long it takes to evict a bad tenant and then would you like to guess how long it takes a person or two or three about to be evicted to thorougly trash an apartment?
Collect damages, you say? Right...aren't these the same people you just evicted for non-payment? Good luck collecting those damages.
Yup...I had you figured for just another NIMBY who likes to talk about caring for the poor and downtrodden...until one of them wants to move into your neighborhood.
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#22 Jan 17, 2012
BkByer wrote:
Well, believe it or not there are class distinctions in our society. There are tony neighborhoods and not so tony neighborhoods. All of us must live with that.
Nice...you really are in favor of those 'undesirable' reservations, aren't you? Or are you saying that those you deem uncceptable should be homeless? No? There where exactly would you propose they live? The ghetto, maybe? A segregated section of town, maybe?
Yup...you libs really care about the poor...until they want to live in your neighborhood...then it's 'OMG!! We can't have their kind living HERE!!!!!"
BkByer

Wayland, MI

#23 Jan 17, 2012
A list of properties owned by Land and Co. Dan Hibma, President of Land and Co is Terry Lynnn's husband.
Grand Rapids Apartments
North West
1.York Creek
South West
2.Brookmeadow
3.Crossroads
4.Dunbar Woods
5.Heritage
6.Oak Hill
7.Parkcrest
8.Peppercorn
9.Prairie Creek
10.Wimbledon
North East
11.Oakview
12.Southview
South East
13.Burtons Landing
14.Eastland
15.Fieldstone
16.Woodfield

Pretty lucrative wouldn't ya say?
BkByer

Wayland, MI

#24 Jan 17, 2012
vox veritatis wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice...you really are in favor of those 'undesirable' reservations, aren't you? Or are you saying that those you deem uncceptable should be homeless? No? There where exactly would you propose they live? The ghetto, maybe? A segregated section of town, maybe?
Yup...you libs really care about the poor...until they want to live in your neighborhood...then it's 'OMG!! We can't have their kind living HERE!!!!!"
Well, it didn't take long to run into another of these posters that come on here for the sole purpose of arguing and attempting to make others look stupid. You have painted a picture of me that in entirely inaccurate and your assumptions are inconcievable. There is no dealing with folks like you...so have at it you only make yourself look foolish.
Fred

Caledonia, MI

#25 Jan 17, 2012
BkByer wrote:
A list of properties owned by Land and Co. Dan Hibma, President of Land and Co is Terry Lynnn's husband.
Grand Rapids Apartments
North West
1.York Creek
South West
2.Brookmeadow
3.Crossroads
4.Dunbar Woods
5.Heritage
6.Oak Hill
7.Parkcrest
8.Peppercorn
9.Prairie Creek
10.Wimbledon
North East
11.Oakview
12.Southview
South East
13.Burtons Landing
14.Eastland
15.Fieldstone
16.Woodfield
Pretty lucrative wouldn't ya say?
Not only lucrative, but many of these happen to be some of the most dangerous places in the entire region. York Creek is SCARY.
BkByer

Wayland, MI

#26 Jan 17, 2012
vox veritatis wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm saying that the law says you may not discriminate in who you rent to (therefore, refusing a minority, even on valid grounds, could lead to a lawsuit that you would probably lose) and would you care to guess how long it takes to evict a bad tenant and then would you like to guess how long it takes a person or two or three about to be evicted to thorougly trash an apartment?
Collect damages, you say? Right...aren't these the same people you just evicted for non-payment? Good luck collecting those damages.
Yup...I had you figured for just another NIMBY who likes to talk about caring for the poor and downtrodden...until one of them wants to move into your neighborhood.
Again I ask you where is it written you must rent to anyone and everyone that applies? Waiting for your astute answer.
BkByer

Wayland, MI

#27 Jan 17, 2012
Fred wrote:
<quoted text>
Not only lucrative, but many of these happen to be some of the most dangerous places in the entire region. York Creek is SCARY.
Then maybe it is safe to say they are slumlords?
BkByer

Wayland, MI

#28 Jan 17, 2012
vox veritatis wrote:
<quoted text>
Care to quote me the law that allows landlords to refuse to rent to tenants on the basis that they think they might be of low moral character?
Care to guess how long it would take for a lawsuit to be filed if said prospective tenant happened to also be a minority?
Oh.
Have you ever heard of the word "screening". You are way offbase. It is perfectly legal to use available sources for public records containing criminal history of applicants. Since the president of Land and Co. is an attorney I am certain he is very knowledgeable in this area. The fact that he allows his property to go to seed
indicates that he is more interested in the financial rewards than pride of ownership. You need to broaden your horizons before you spout off about racial discrimination.
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#29 Jan 18, 2012
BkByer wrote:
Well, it didn't take long to run into another of these posters that come on here for the sole purpose of arguing and attempting to make others look stupid. You have painted a picture of me that in entirely inaccurate and your assumptions are inconcievable.
Then it shoudsn't be too hard for you to answer this question: if you don't want them living in your neighborhood, where do you propose they live?
People like you are the reason OWS has appeal.
BkByer

Wayland, MI

#30 Jan 18, 2012
vox veritatis wrote:
<quoted text>
Then it shoudsn't be too hard for you to answer this question: if you don't want them living in your neighborhood, where do you propose they live?
People like you are the reason OWS has appeal.
First of all, vox whatever, you haven't answered my question abbout the rules regarding landlord's rights. But, I will answer yours. You seemed to have missed my point. My argument is not where trailer folks should live but with Mr. Paul Land who sereptitiously tried to influence township officials to accept his agenda. He is not above taking advantage of relatives who serve on the township boards to sway his peers into voting in favor of Land's requests. Failure to include the citizenry in their decisions is downright underhanded dealing. I am saying this on this forum because Paul Land is Terry Lynn Land Hibma's father.
His example was less than stellar. It's all about $$$$$.
say what

Farmington, MI

#31 Jan 18, 2012
BkByer wrote:
Have you ever heard of the word "screening". You are way offbase. It is perfectly legal to use available sources for public records containing criminal history of applicants.
Okay...let's run with this and see where this rabbit trail leads us. You are suggesting that landlords use the 'screening' process to exclude those who may have a criminal record or bad credit, refusing to rent to them, essentially leaving them nowhere to live if all landlords followed this procedure.
Is there some reason you want to add to the homeless population or do you just feel that anyone with a criminal record (no matter how minor) or those who are simply struggling financially should be forced to live on the street in general? That is where what you are suggesting leads. Of course, there are other options such as segregated sections of town designated for 'undesirable' tenants. Oh...wait...we already have those...they're called ghettos and it seems that's where you want people you consider 'undesirable tenants' relegated to. What a compassionate person you are!
I hope someone buys the house next to yours and rents it out under section 8 housing...THAT would be Karma.
Forrest Gump

Scotts, MI

#32 Jan 18, 2012
Living Large2 wrote:
Funny a Republican providing housing for Obamas voter base, who would have thought it?
Silly man. Convicted Felons can't vote, at least they aren't supposed to.
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#33 Jan 19, 2012
Forrest Gump wrote:
that was about 20 years ago.
Funny...he's still listed as president of L & Co. Methinks rumors of his death are somewhat exaggerated.
dot connector

Grandville, MI

#34 Jan 19, 2012
BkByer wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, believe it or not there are class distinctions in our society. There are tony neighborhoods and not so tony neighborhoods. All of us must live with that. I'm saying that Paul Land deliberately went into neighborhoods where he had placed his relatives on a zoning board or planning commission and proceeded to underhandedly try to get property rezoned to fit his greedy needs. He knew he was going to get opposition so he did this quietly. One park he wanted to develop was to be right next to two other parks on the Kent/Ottawa border, making a little community with population the size of the city of Sparta in a small area. The citizens were able to delay his project for 15 years when he finally won a state judgement. He's a selfish, greedy creep dead or alive.
Your comments are absolutely correct about Land's attempts to influence township officials and boards.

Attention class:
Dan Hibma was at one time the Byron Center township supervisor.
BC's current supervisor Audrey Nevins' ex husband and Dan Hibma were childhood friends/neighbors.
An employee of Land & Co. who was also a childhood friend/neighbor of Mr. Hibma has a nephew currently on the BC township board. Said Land employee's wife was until recently, also employed in the township offices.
Added value: Ms. Nevins new husband works for the road
commission.

I could find more dots to connect, but I'm guessing you already know...
land

Southgate, MI

#35 Jan 19, 2012
I'm thinking,... if you dont like living in one of Land & Companies apartments,...move out!!!
They wont care.
The problems are the residendt's, not the management.
Land & Company spends Millions putting up beautifull appartment homes, and you crack heads trash them, and blame it on them!
It isnt Land & Co.'s fault that you crackhead's trash your own living area.
Do you crackheads want them to wipe your butt, and clean up your puke too?
Get off your ass you f'ing losers and get a job and stop your whining!
If you dont like living in an apartment complex owned by Land & Company,...move out!!!!
They dont need you living there!
MOVE OUT!!!!!
They dont need you there, or want you there!

“lover”

Since: Feb 09

Dorr MI

#36 Jan 19, 2012
Forrest Gump wrote:
<quoted text>Silly man. Convicted Felons can't vote, at least they aren't supposed to.
They sure can in Michigan. Even illegals can vote in some areas. How do you think Obama got elected?

“lover”

Since: Feb 09

Dorr MI

#37 Jan 19, 2012
Forrest Gump wrote:
<quoted text>Silly man. Convicted Felons can't vote, at least they aren't supposed to.
Given the above restrictions, a Michigan resident confined in jail or prison that is awaiting arraignment or trial is eligible to register and vote. A Michigan resident who is serving a sentence in jail or prison after conviction cannot register or vote during his or her period of confinement. After a Michigan resident who is serving a sentence in jail or prison is released, he or she is free to participate in elections without restriction.

“lover”

Since: Feb 09

Dorr MI

#38 Jan 19, 2012
Lamont

United States

#39 Jan 20, 2012
Of course she's a slumlord. She's a joke. Everyone suffers from her neglect of property values and her indifference toward violent crime that takes place as a result of her properties harboring criminals.
Truth

Scotts, MI

#40 Jan 21, 2012
Before making any such claims one should always look at the facts. Go to this site and click on View Crime Map. You can then view a live map of crimes in Kent County and where they were located. From the map it appears that living in a Land and Company Community is perhaps one of the safest places to live in the entire city.

http://www.accesskent.com/CourtsAndLawEnforce...

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