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#1
Sep 3, 2008
 
You know...you would think these idiots would realize by now that the cameras and audio are still recording even when they go to commercial.These are not "liberals" discussing the Palin choice but hard core conservatives.For what it's worth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Sep 3, 2008
 
say it aint so!
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Sep 4, 2008
 
Xenthan wrote:
You know...you would think these idiots would realize by now that the cameras and audio are still recording even when they go to commercial.These are not "liberals" discussing the Palin choice but hard core conservatives.For what it's worth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Noonan is spinning her butt off claiming the It's over crack was not about McBush's campaign.
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Sep 4, 2008
 
Pete wrote:
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Noonan is spinning her butt off claiming the It's over crack was not about McBush's campaign.
And because you have special powers you know better right?

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Sep 4, 2008
 
Noonan's Response:
Open Mic Night at MSNBC
September 3, 2008
St. Paul
Well, I just got mugged by the nature of modern media, and I wish it weren't my fault, but it is. Readers deserve an explanation, so I'm putting a new top on today's column and, with the forbearance of the Journal, here it is.
Wednesday afternoon, in a live MSNBC television panel hosted by NBC's political analyst Chuck Todd, and along with Republican strategist Mike Murphy, we discussed Sarah Palin's speech this evening to the Republican National Convention. I said she has to tell us in her speech who she is, what she believes, and why she's here. We spoke of Republican charges that the media has been unfair to Mrs. Palin, and I defended the view that while the media should investigate every quote and vote she's made, and look deeply into her career, it has been unjust in its treatment of her family circumstances, and deserved criticism for this.
When the segment was over and MSNBC was in commercial, Todd, Murphy and I continued our conversation, talking about the Palin choice overall. We were speaking informally, with some passion -- and into live mics. An audio tape of that conversation was sent, how or by whom I don't know, onto the internet. And within three hours I was receiving it from friends far and wide, asking me why I thought the McCain campaign is "over", as it says in the transcript of the conversation. Here I must plead some confusion. In our off-air conversation, I got on the subject of the leaders of the Republican party assuming, now, that whatever the base of the Republican party thinks is what America thinks. I made the case that this is no longer true, that party leaders seem to me stuck in the assumptions of 1988 and 1994, the assumptions that reigned when they were young and coming up. "The first lesson they learned is the one they remember," I said to Todd -- and I'm pretty certain that is a direct quote. But, I argued, that's over, those assumptions are yesterday, the party can no longer assume that its base is utterly in line with the thinking of the American people. And when I said, "It's over!" -- and I said it more than once -- that is what I was referring to. I am pretty certain that is exactly what Todd and Murphy understood I was referring to. In the truncated version of the conversation, on the Web, it appears I am saying the McCain campaign is over. I did not say it, and do not think it. In fact, at an on-the-record press symposium on the campaign on Monday, when all of those on the panel were pressed to predict who would win, I said that I didn't know, but that we just might find "This IS a country for old men." That is, McCain may well win. I do not think the campaign is over, I do not think this is settled, and did not suggest, back to the Todd-Murphy conversation, that "It's over."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1220447537905...

As Hurley pointed out in the another thread dedicated to this same topic, how soon we forget the Jesse Jackson cut his nuts off quote...
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Thank you Ms Angie for posting the oped from Noonan. Progressives always take things out of context. They had their butts handed to them from the more experienced Palin compared to their Utopia makers.
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Of course she is going to back track. But if you listen to the clip it is clear what she is really talking about- McCain's presidential aspirations are over.
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Sep 4, 2008
 
The real truth comes out when they think nobody's listening--true of both sides.

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Sep 4, 2008
 
Chris wrote:
Of course she is going to back track. But if you listen to the clip it is clear what she is really talking about- McCain's presidential aspirations are over.
Oh please, like my dad always said "Wish in one hand, sh!t in the other and see which one fills up faster."
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Sep 4, 2008
 
Funny how they don't have the segment before this clip to get the real context....
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Even if she did mean McCain's campaign is over, big hairy freakin' deal what they think. They aren't the campaign managers, they have jack squat to say in this campaign except for their 2 votes.

It should matter to no one what they think, it should matter to the citizens and that is what Palin said. She doesn't care what the media or the established party thinks of her, only the people.

And thank God for that, we finally have someone who wants to do what's good for the country instead of themselves. Just like Reagan.

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That tape is hilarious, the GOP's own experts got caught talking about what a mistake she is.
McSame's unvetted VP is already haunting him and is the best thing the Obama camp could have hoped for. If McSame had chosen a legitimate candidate like Romney, he may have been a threat to take Michigan and even the general election.

As the GOP's Noonan said about the election, "It's over."

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Sep 4, 2008
 
Arctic49519 wrote:
That tape is hilarious, the GOP's own experts got caught talking about what a mistake she is.
McSame's unvetted VP is already haunting him and is the best thing the Obama camp could have hoped for. If McSame had chosen a legitimate candidate like Romney, he may have been a threat to take Michigan and even the general election.
As the GOP's Noonan said about the election, "It's over."
If it's the best thing the Obama camp could have hoped for why don't they just let her self-destruct? To me they and the media that supports them seem rather fired up over an election that you are claiming is over.

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Ms Angie wrote:
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If it's the best thing the Obama camp could have hoped for why don't they just let her self-destruct? To me they and the media that supports them seem rather fired up over an election that you are claiming is over.
Don't you watch the news? That's exactly what the Obama camp is doing---nothing, except sitting back and watching her self-destruct.
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Am I incorrect in saying that more than 18 million democrats think Obama was the wrong choice?
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casual observer wrote:
Am I incorrect in saying that more than 18 million democrats think Obama was the wrong choice?
Not compared to McCain!!!
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casual observer wrote:
Am I incorrect in saying that more than 18 million democrats think Obama was the wrong choice?
Yes you are incorrect. 18 milllion democrats thought that Clinton would be a better candidate for the party. That does not mean that he is the wrong choice for us, just that we would have preferred Clinton. But since it is Obama who is the democratic candidate, we are quite sure that he is the right candidate when matched up with McBush.
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And yes Palin is hot now, but only because she is new. Once she has to start answering questions instead of reading someone else's words off of a teleprompter, people will realize that she is not fit to lead the country. So let them have their minute in the sun, come November 04 people will know the real Palin and what she stands for- more of the same Republican leadership that has dragged our country into our current problems.
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Sep 4, 2008
 
Chris wrote:
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Yes you are incorrect. 18 milllion democrats thought that Clinton would be a better candidate for the party. That does not mean that he is the wrong choice for us, just that we would have preferred Clinton. But since it is Obama who is the democratic candidate, we are quite sure that he is the right candidate when matched up with McBush.
I guess time will tell.
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Sep 4, 2008
 
He Chris, do yourself a favor. Go to
www.youtube.com

Do a search for Obama teleprompter. Take a look at Obama in action and then come back and tell us who the real telepromter idiot is. Let me know if you know any kids that need a breathalyzer for their asthma.
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