Coopersville hazers to be reinstated ...

Coopersville hazers to be reinstated tonight ?

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4boys-1princess

Syracuse, NY

#1 May 19, 2008
The Coopersville Board of Education meets tonight to decide whether to allow the boys expelled for attacking and hazing teammates in the lockerroom last spring to be reinstated next fall. I can't say I am looking forward to their return. I wonder how others feel about it. The meeting starts at 7:00 if you'd be interested in attending.

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Since: Apr 08

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#2 May 19, 2008
4boys-1princess wrote:
The Coopersville Board of Education meets tonight to decide whether to allow the boys expelled for attacking and hazing teammates in the lockerroom last spring to be reinstated next fall. I can't say I am looking forward to their return. I wonder how others feel about it. The meeting starts at 7:00 if you'd be interested in attending.
I wonder how the victims of the hazing feel about it. I believe one of the victims doesn't attend Coopersville anymore.. but still I wonder how they all feel.
4boys-1princess

Syracuse, NY

#3 May 19, 2008
One of the victims families have sold their home and are leaving the district. As far as I know, the district has refused to speak to them to express concern about their son EVER. Not acceptable in my opinion.
coopmom2008

Syracuse, NY

#4 May 19, 2008
I wonder if the board would bring those boys back if they were not athletes? Or, what if the victim was a girl?

“Don't touch my junk man!”

Since: Nov 07

Middle of the Mitten, Michigan

#5 May 19, 2008
coopmom2008 wrote:
I wonder if the board would bring those boys back if they were not athletes? Or, what if the victim was a girl?
How about if they were alien with five eyes?? We could speculate all day.

Their period of expulsion is up. Therefore they're going to go in front of the board to see if they can be allowed back into school. They did the crime, they've done their time. I'm sure they're different kids because of it, as are their victims-just as in ANY other crime that is committed.
coopmom2008

Syracuse, NY

#6 May 19, 2008
I am sure the victim is different because of it. Ditto for his family. The abusers? I don't know. That is the problem. I hope some insight is gained at the meeting tonight.

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Since: Apr 08

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#7 May 19, 2008
coopmom2008 wrote:
I wonder if the board would bring those boys back if they were not athletes? Or, what if the victim was a girl?
I asked my friend that very question today(hypothetically). Athletes are very highly regarded at Coopersville School.

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Since: Apr 08

West Michigan

#8 May 19, 2008
mama knows wrote:
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Athletes are very highly regarded at Coopersville School.
need we say more?

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Since: Oct 07

Plainfield Township MI

#9 May 19, 2008
mama knows wrote:
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I asked my friend that very question today(hypothetically). Athletes are very highly regarded at Coopersville School.
Maybe they should highly regard straight A students and kids who don't terrorize other kids. What a concept. I used to live in MN and members of a high school hockey team gang raped a girl there. The rapists were convicted, but the judge delayed their starting their jail time until after their hockey tournement. Nice message we are sending. If you are an athlete, you can pretty much get away with anything.

“What's Up?”

Since: Jan 08

Coopersville

#10 May 19, 2008
I just hope that the board thinks this all through before making their decision. Think about what these kids have done to our school, not only the victims of this incident, but us as a whole school system. This isn't something small kept between two parties, this is known about everywhere and spoke about outside of Coopersville. It is always great to hear about your "Blue Ribbon School" in conversation but one really tends to shy the other way if they hear the "Hazing Incident" brought up. So sad for all that were involved for sure. This is not something to shrug off lightly and like said in a previous comment above, its not just a situation where they did the crime and did their time, they have hurt some kids greatly who are still suffering from the results of all that occured. I pray for strength and wisdom to those responsible in making the final decision in this matter. Please think about all that have suffered through all this in the last year!
4boys-1princess

Syracuse, NY

#11 May 19, 2008
I went to the meeting tonight and listened to the comments from friends and family of the victims. It is terrible what they have suffered this past year from the hands of the abusers, and maybe to an even greater extent the school system, which seems to turn a cold shoulder to their pain. There has been no communication from the district and even now, there are staff members who do not know that these boys were actually raped.And over the course of months, not once. I do not understand how a district that I have felt pride in for so many years can let me down so. I am horrified at the prospect of these boys returning. I will be watching closely the outcome of the next meeting, where a vote will be taken.

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Since: Apr 08

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#12 May 20, 2008
Bobbiez wrote:
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Maybe they should highly regard straight A students and kids who don't terrorize other kids. What a concept. I used to live in MN and members of a high school hockey team gang raped a girl there. The rapists were convicted, but the judge delayed their starting their jail time until after their hockey tournement. Nice message we are sending. If you are an athlete, you can pretty much get away with anything.
Sick. I'm not surprised. And if you look at pro athletes, they have the same sense of entitlement.

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#13 May 20, 2008
4boys-1princess wrote:
I went to the meeting tonight and listened to the comments from friends and family of the victims. It is terrible what they have suffered this past year from the hands of the abusers, and maybe to an even greater extent the school system, which seems to turn a cold shoulder to their pain. There has been no communication from the district and even now, there are staff members who do not know that these boys were actually raped.And over the course of months, not once. I do not understand how a district that I have felt pride in for so many years can let me down so. I am horrified at the prospect of these boys returning. I will be watching closely the outcome of the next meeting, where a vote will be taken.
Well, after reading your post I would say that they should DEFINETLY not be able to return. It sounds like a very bad idea... again, if they weren't athletes I don't think there would even be a question of them returning.
mhl

Coleman, MI

#14 May 20, 2008
I always thought that if you were expelled, that was it. You never came back. They should not be allowed back to any normal school. They should go to a alternative school that is prepared for deeper behavioral issues.

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#15 May 20, 2008
Letters to the Coopersville School Board would be appreciated. The address is Coopersville Public Schools, 198 East St. Coopersville MI 49404
WDA

Syracuse, NY

#16 May 20, 2008
If there was rape involved. Why didn't they get arrested and prosecuted?
4boys-1princess wrote:
I went to the meeting tonight and listened to the comments from friends and family of the victims. It is terrible what they have suffered this past year from the hands of the abusers, and maybe to an even greater extent the school system, which seems to turn a cold shoulder to their pain. There has been no communication from the district and even now, there are staff members who do not know that these boys were actually raped.And over the course of months, not once. I do not understand how a district that I have felt pride in for so many years can let me down so. I am horrified at the prospect of these boys returning. I will be watching closely the outcome of the next meeting, where a vote will be taken.
4boys-1princess

Syracuse, NY

#17 May 20, 2008
They were arrested and charged in juvenile court. The prosecutor charged them with lesser crimes because they had no prior records and had never been in trouble with the law before. They also did not penetrate the victims with their body parts, but with other objects. I personally believe the "boys will be boys" philosophy came into play. Can you imagine what would have happened if 4 boys had held down a girl repeatedly at school and penetrated her, and rubbed their naked genitals in her face? As the mother of both boys and a girl, I don't find it more acceptable because it happened to boys. I do not want that kind of behavior or the attitudes that pooh pooh it in my district.
Rape is not about sex to the abuser. It is about power and these boys terrorized the victims and those who knew about it but were too afraid to say anything. Apparently, it had been going on for a few months before someone finally told.

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Since: Jan 08

Holland,MI

#18 May 20, 2008
WDA wrote:
If there was rape involved. Why didn't they get arrested and prosecuted?<quoted text>
That happens all too often and is part of what leads to the feeling of entitlement that some athletes develop, not just about the rape issue, but in general. Too often the athlete gets a slap on the wrist where anyone else would get the full wrath of the populace. And then the victim gets blamed for "getting the athlete in trouble", when actually the athlete got himself in trouble.

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Since: Apr 08

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#19 May 20, 2008
Gentle Taz wrote:
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That happens all too often and is part of what leads to the feeling of entitlement that some athletes develop, not just about the rape issue, but in general. Too often the athlete gets a slap on the wrist where anyone else would get the full wrath of the populace. And then the victim gets blamed for "getting the athlete in trouble", when actually the athlete got himself in trouble.
Also there is a certain amount of denial on the part of the school; no contact or apology made from the school to the victims, coaches that quietly "disappear" without a word, and a glossing over of what really happened.
dave580b

West Olive, MI

#20 May 20, 2008
Coopersville is a rural community which loves the flag, loves the President, loves Jesus, and votes Republican. Really, what did you expect.

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