Christian TV special being stifled

Feb 12, 2009 | Posted by: SongBookz | Full story: www.onenewsnow.com

The American Family Association (AFA), a pro-family group based in Mississippi, has encountered resistance in its attempts to air a television special called Speechless: Silencing the Christians.

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I suspect their 'facts' are coming from the Bible and not 'science' or 'medicine', therefore, since their suppositions are based on 'belief' and not facts at all. I can see why they are not being allowed access to the media. Could the KKK buy time on network TV to spew its hate and lies.

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follower of Christ wrote:
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No strain here :)
You are a mean nasty man, calling names and resorting to intimidation to get a response because you feel foolish at the thought that your blindness has led you astray.
It's an argument that has been done already anyway.
Trying to do the circular thing isn't worth my time and when you get frustrated you resort to ugliness....so no thanks.
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Were you not aware that you are in 'gay topics', you come here at your own risk.
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The liberals want to stop any speech that goes against their socialist agenda.
The liberals are afraid of any truth, any opinion that might wake people up.
liberals hate religion and they hate God, liberal want everyone to be as miserable and angry as they are.
the liberals are weak and selfish.
Don't let the liberal tell you what you are allowed to believe, liberals are evil and this is just more proof.
Liberals hate, liberalism is based on hate.
stop the hate-stop the liberals.

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Do we have to remind you that in this first post on this thread you came out swinging and attacking us?
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No strain here :)
You are a mean nasty man, calling names and resorting to intimidation to get a response because you feel foolish at the thought that your blindness has led you astray.
It's an argument that has been done already anyway.
Trying to do the circular thing isn't worth my time and when you get frustrated you resort to ugliness....so no thanks.
:)

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Unfortunately there is not much of a "market" in broadcasting - stations are concentrated in fewer and fewer (and mostly Conservative)hands. Which is one of the reasons, we need to enforce the "Fairness Doctrine" and start monopoly busting.
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Bud wrote:
Come on, follower.
Show us how two gay guys getting married in Seattle has anything to do with your rights in whatever trailer park you currently haunt.
Are you projecting? There isn't a trailer park within 15 miles!
Unless you were insinuating I live in one?
How mean and nasty....so you are saying all those on here and their loved ones who live in trailers are second class?
How very politicaly correct of you!:)
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Edio wrote:
I just watched the program online. I don't think I've ever seen a more blatant bit of fear-mongering propaganda: rife with outright lies, misrepresentations, hyperbolic twisting of facts, hypocrisy, and deceptions.
This "documentary" makes "Expelled:No Intelligence Allowed" look like absolute truth.
A premise of the film is that homosexuality is not immutable. Somehow they skip over how they came to that determination.
The most ironic part, for me, was their quoting "After the Ball," and the "radical" homosexuals who will set their "agenda" "without reference to facts, logic, or proof." Well damn! This is a fundamentalist Christian, who in my view, has absolutely no "facts, logic, or proof" to support their religious beliefs.
Look at the film, GLBT community (and friends), and you will know who your enemies are. And I don't use the term "enemies" lightly. They are:
American Family Assoc
Concerned Women of America (Beverly LaHay Inst.)
Allied Defense Fund
Cultural Affairs Liberty Council
Liberty Legal Institute
Citizens for Community Values
Culture and Media Institute
Family Policy Council
The above were represented in the film.
Did you think your brainwashed mind would allow you to see any truth?
Your whole world view would have to change if that happened!
And you would have to admit you have been taken, and are wrong.
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Catholic created gay wrote:
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Were you not aware that you are in 'gay topics', you come here at your own risk.
Excuse me?
I am on the only forum I go to here....Christian...and the thread is about Christian tv.
Get your head out of the clouds and read where you are at!
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ACLU-Tom wrote:
Do we have to remind you that in this first post on this thread you came out swinging and attacking us?
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Go back and read my first post.....you are not being persecuted here :)
I didn't attack anyone, we have been mocked and called sheep and dumb and blind for long enough,I cannot help that you guys now find out that you have been fed a line in order to promote immorality!
Bud called me names....that is an attack, so you took my response to him to re post here....very deceiving of you!
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Did you think your brainwashed mind would allow you to see any truth?
Your whole world view would have to change if that happened!
And you would have to admit you have been taken, and are wrong.
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LMFAO. Brainwashed? LOL. YOU are brainwashed, bub. "follower of christ" ... right! Your world view is so myopic, I'm surprised that you can see far enough to read your bible. Hey "follower," if you think this film is in any way representative of reality, honesty, and integrity, then you are indeed my enemy. Go back to the catacomes, Christian! This film has waged war on American citizens.

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Excuse me?
I am on the only forum I go to here....Christian...and the thread is about Christian tv.
Get your head out of the clouds and read where you are at!
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LMAO. You ARE myopic. Read the thread heading. It is listed both on Christian and Gay/Lesbian forums. Dolt.

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No strain here :)
You are a mean nasty man, calling names and resorting to intimidation to get a response because you feel foolish at the thought that your blindness has led you astray.
It's an argument that has been done already anyway.
Trying to do the circular thing isn't worth my time and when you get frustrated you resort to ugliness....so no thanks.
:)
So, you have no answer, and resort to name calling and intimidation, at the same time accusing your opponent of the same. Typical tactic of the religious right.
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Edio wrote:
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LMAO. You ARE myopic. Read the thread heading. It is listed both on Christian and Gay/Lesbian forums. Dolt.
Well thereyago....duhhhh you may roam the gay threads I don't so I guess that would mean that you are on my forums, not I on the gay ones.
Or was that too deep for ya?
dolt. rofl

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Go back and read my first post.....you are not being persecuted here :)
I didn't attack anyone, we have been mocked and called sheep and dumb and blind for long enough,I cannot help that you guys now find out that you have been fed a line in order to promote immorality!
Bud called me names....that is an attack, so you took my response to him to re post here....very deceiving of you!
:)
It was posted to Cristian News but articles will automatically propagate to other forums based on "key words" in the article.

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Well thereyago....duhhhh you may roam the gay threads I don't so I guess that would mean that you are on my forums, not I on the gay ones.
Or was that too deep for ya?
dolt. rofl
I am on YOUR forums? Well, excuse me, MS. Topix. Ms. Topix, let me make this ... not too deep for ya: many threads on Topix are cross referenced to several forums. Like it or not, "follower," you are showing up on the Gay/Lesbian forum.

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This is an interesting situation. It seemed as if the AFA were willing to pay for their airtime so in that respect they had a right to pay for a broadcast just like anyone else. On the other hand, I wonder what the makers of that video would say if a 50 minute pro-homosexual propaganda piece were played at 7PM on the local news channel. I bet they'd be just as up in arms as the GLT community is now. People can say that pro-homosexual stuff is on TV all of the time. And, it is. But I haven't seen a lot of really flagrant stuff certainly nothing I'd consider as propaganda. So maybe this AFA video was just a bit over the top for prime time TV. It's freely available online. If anyone is interested they can watch it there. No censorship at all.

On the more overarching theme: What should Christians think of homosexuality? My opinion is that it's Biblically a sin. So is adultery, stealing, etc. A lot of things are. As such it should be frowned upon as all wrong things are. But one shouldn't single people out. The Bible also says to take the plank out of your eye before you worry about the splinter in your neighbor's eye. It is the Christ like thing to do to hate the sin but NOT the sinner. Homosexuals are people just like everyone else.

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Another very valid topic of discussion is this: If people can be born homosexual then how can it be a sin according to the Bible? Of course that is an overly simplistic question. Some people are born with a predisposition to murder or hurt animals, or touch kids. There are a whole range of things you might be born with a predisposition to do. Not all of them are good for you. Some people are born hotheads. They are still responsible when they get angry and do something dumb. Some people are born bipolar or schizophrenic. We still treat them so that they can lead a normal life. You aren't perfect just the way you were born. Everyone makes choices in life. Some of those choices are certainly influenced by your upbringing and genetics but in the end the choice is yours. As such I have to believe that homosexuality is still a sin. But, it's a sin that the person is responsible for NOT ME. As such it's not my problem or business if they decide to follow up on their predisposition toward homosexuality. They've got to answer for their life, I have to answer for mine.
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DaBroad wrote:
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So, you have no answer, and resort to name calling and intimidation, at the same time accusing your opponent of the same. Typical tactic of the religious right.
What is the name calling?
LOL innuendo at best on your part!
I stated a judgement I made on his personality....that's not a name.
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SongBookz wrote:
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It was posted to Cristian News but articles will automatically propagate to other forums based on "key words" in the article.
I do know that....but the first poster said I was on the g&l forum, and then this guy too.
It may be on both but I am not on the g&l thread.
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Its really alot better than I even hoped it would be.

Good production value, compelling storyline, good naration...

All & All an excellent piece.

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