Deanie Peters disappearance remains a mystery after 27 years

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Feb 5, 2010
 
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Anyone been following this story? So sad, I can't imagine how the family must feel not having any closure.
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Anyone been following this story? So sad, I can't imagine how the family must feel not having any closure.
I have and agree with you. I just a year or 2 younger than her but could pass as her twin sister. I was a crossing guard safety at school during this time. Also when the VanderVeen (sp) abduction took place, they had all the girl safties located right nearby the school and the boys were all further out. Those were haunting times and remain on my mind. A part of our innocence was certainly lost. I remember a girl in my class, while on safety patrol, right outside the school was approached by a man in his car with his pants down. She was petrified and we knew that it could happen to anyone, anywhere. This was right outside a school. Jeesh. Prayers to the family and friends. May they find peace and closure.

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Yes, this has been the most comprehensive report done so far on this over the years. It seems Bruce Bunch is guilty...which many have suspected over the years. He was in my class at Lowell and nobody has anything nice to say about him. Most memories of him are of him being a bully. I feel bad for his daughter as she really has no idea who her dad was back then but she was bright enough to call him an a-hole. She just can't wrap her head around the idea he did something so awful.

SOMEBODY knows something which is why this was released...I think the old girlfriend knows - she admitted to failing the polygraph. I hope her family pressures her to come forward. Somebody needs to step up and say something. That is the least that the Peters' family deserves after all these years.

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Lets not jump on the blame the dead guy bandwagon. I hate to remind everyone but they don't even have a body so accusing someone of murder is a bit premature. It sounds to me like this was fubar'd when they concentrated on that janitor at the beginning.

Does anyone say they saw Bunch at the school that day? Did I miss it, why weren't we told more about the alleged fight, who was involved, why were they fighting? That is a dangerous road to go down though because it could have nothing to do with it. Did anyone else hear the comment about another deputies relative having some relationship to the situation? Why wasn't Gene DeBaudt allowed to pursue this, someone afraid he might solve it? I don't think they were happy he solved the Fryling murder, tarnishing several of the good old boys "family values" reps along the way. Who knew they were having that much fun on the side?

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I forgot to mention one other possibility, SHE RAN AWAY. Maybe she is alive and well somewhere in the Rockies. Maybe she did die accidently as part of the runaway process and was buried. Hard to believe she was abducted from the school with an activity going on and no one heard or saw anything.

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Lets not jump on the blame the dead guy bandwagon. I hate to remind everyone but they don't even have a body so accusing someone of murder is a bit premature. It sounds to me like this was fubar'd when they concentrated on that janitor at the beginning.
Does anyone say they saw Bunch at the school that day? Did I miss it, why weren't we told more about the alleged fight, who was involved, why were they fighting? That is a dangerous road to go down though because it could have nothing to do with it. Did anyone else hear the comment about another deputies relative having some relationship to the situation? Why wasn't Gene DeBaudt allowed to pursue this, someone afraid he might solve it? I don't think they were happy he solved the Fryling murder, tarnishing several of the good old boys "family values" reps along the way. Who knew they were having that much fun on the side?
Yes - the old girlfriend is now married to the son of a deputy that I believe has investigated this.... That's why I said in my post I'm sure she knows something....she admitted she failed the poly. Did you watch the special or read the article? Bunch's ex-wife said he had 'nighmares' all the time but would never tell her what they were about. Somebody did come forward and said he blubbered he 'killed her' when he was drunk. The missing body is just a technicality. In this case it seems Karma took over and I'm confident he's not resting in peace. The only important thing now is that somebody comes forward about the body and gives the parents closure...

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Yes - the old girlfriend is now married to the son of a deputy that I believe has investigated this.... That's why I said in my post I'm sure she knows something....she admitted she failed the poly. Did you watch the special or read the article? Bunch's ex-wife said he had 'nighmares' all the time but would never tell her what they were about. Somebody did come forward and said he blubbered he 'killed her' when he was drunk. The missing body is just a technicality. In this case it seems Karma took over and I'm confident he's not resting in peace. The only important thing now is that somebody comes forward about the body and gives the parents closure...
Everything we heard about him would lead me to believe he was not bright enough to pull this off. We heard different versions of his blubbering. What's the motive? He claimed he did not know her, others said he met her. What's the connection? Yes I did watch but I was left a bit confused since they did not elaborate on the fight and who was involved in it. They also alluded to the stepfather being a suspect. Who is the mom married to now, the same stepfather. I think it is more likely she left voluntarily with someone, maybe not to run away but to escape having to sit with her mother watching wrestling practice. All of this is guessing of course but it sounds to me like the cops don't have anything better.

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Everything we heard about him would lead me to believe he was not bright enough to pull this off. We heard different versions of his blubbering. What's the motive? He claimed he did not know her, others said he met her. What's the connection? Yes I did watch but I was left a bit confused since they did not elaborate on the fight and who was involved in it. They also alluded to the stepfather being a suspect. Who is the mom married to now, the same stepfather. I think it is more likely she left voluntarily with someone, maybe not to run away but to escape having to sit with her mother watching wrestling practice. All of this is guessing of course but it sounds to me like the cops don't have anything better.
Bruce's girlfriend admitted to having (and there were witnesses) to having an 'altercation' with Deanie that included some form of 'threats'. "Motive" at the age of 16 or 17 is never quite the same as an 'adult' motive. Sometimes it's "I didn't like the way they looked at me". Bruce changed his story more than once. He told some he didn't know her and others he did. Even told his own daughter he had met her. How do you explain that same girlfriend flunking the Poly? How do you explain that Bruce had nightmares all these years and would never tell his wife what they were about? Doesn't that strike you as more than a little 'odd'??? Well I knew enough about him to know he was no idiot. He was a bully to many. His x-wife said he was abusive and threatened. It's not a stretch to think at 17 he was trying to impress his then girlfriend. Maybe it was intentional, maybe it was a prank gone wrong....but I'd bet money that his hands are bloody either way.

It's a little ironic that you suggest he wasn't bright enough and yet you're usually the first one to suggest the police 'made errors'. They admit in this report there were errors made.

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Bruce's girlfriend admitted to having (and there were witnesses) to having an 'altercation' with Deanie that included some form of 'threats'. "Motive" at the age of 16 or 17 is never quite the same as an 'adult' motive. Sometimes it's "I didn't like the way they looked at me". Bruce changed his story more than once. He told some he didn't know her and others he did. Even told his own daughter he had met her. How do you explain that same girlfriend flunking the Poly? How do you explain that Bruce had nightmares all these years and would never tell his wife what they were about? Doesn't that strike you as more than a little 'odd'??? Well I knew enough about him to know he was no idiot. He was a bully to many. His x-wife said he was abusive and threatened. It's not a stretch to think at 17 he was trying to impress his then girlfriend. Maybe it was intentional, maybe it was a prank gone wrong....but I'd bet money that his hands are bloody either way.
It's a little ironic that you suggest he wasn't bright enough and yet you're usually the first one to suggest the police 'made errors'. They admit in this report there were errors made.
Well the whole thing is odd. Bruce's girlfriend is the girl she was in a fight with and who flunked the poly, all the same woman? I guess that was not crystal clear to me. If that is true though why wasn't it known right away. Is she also the one related to the KCSD deputy? Something I think was said about one person marrying into the deputy's family, I thought she was directly related, like a daughter. If all that falls together why didn't the KCSD turn this over to the MSP 29 years ago? On the other hand do you think he would kill her over it, maybe there is something to the accident story, maybe they were trying to teach her a lesson and an accident happened so they dumped the body. Who were his buddies back then? Again it looks to me like they targeted the "foreign" janitor and took their eye off the ball. Once that happens it becomes a persecution instead of an investigation.

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Well the whole thing is odd. Bruce's girlfriend is the girl she was in a fight with and who flunked the poly, all the same woman? I guess that was not crystal clear to me. If that is true though why wasn't it known right away. Is she also the one related to the KCSD deputy? Something I think was said about one person marrying into the deputy's family, I thought she was directly related, like a daughter. If all that falls together why didn't the KCSD turn this over to the MSP 29 years ago? On the other hand do you think he would kill her over it, maybe there is something to the accident story, maybe they were trying to teach her a lesson and an accident happened so they dumped the body. Who were his buddies back then? Again it looks to me like they targeted the "foreign" janitor and took their eye off the ball. Once that happens it becomes a persecution instead of an investigation.
Try reading the text of the wood story vs. the video....I think that will read clearer.... I don't know who his 'friends' were back then....not even sure if he was still enrolled in Lowell schools or if he graduated....I'll look into that....

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Try reading the text of the wood story vs. the video....I think that will read clearer.... I don't know who his 'friends' were back then....not even sure if he was still enrolled in Lowell schools or if he graduated....I'll look into that....
I'll do that maybe it will connect the dots better for me.

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Try reading the text of the wood story vs. the video....I think that will read clearer.... I don't know who his 'friends' were back then....not even sure if he was still enrolled in Lowell schools or if he graduated....I'll look into that....
I read it. I think they are making the same mistake with Bunch that they made with Diaz 29 years ago. They got nothing. On the one hand they claim this fight incident was serious enough for the school to "document" it but on the other not serious enough for the school to make sure the cops knew about it when she comes up missing a few days later, come on. What I think is missing here is who was the guy she was warned to stay away from and who is the person that cared besides this one that married the cops nephew.

I wonder if the diary stopped three weeks earlier because she did not want to leave behind a trail of where she went and who she ran away with. I wonder where she and her buddies were hanging out back then. Did she meet a new boyfriend, maybe a pimp? Who was this allegedly older girl she was last seen with, another student or a recruiter. I would assume that they have either cleared that person or have no idea who it is. Does that person have connections to Bunch?

Time to hire DeBaudt before we dig Bunch up and put him on trial.

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I read it. I think they are making the same mistake with Bunch that they made with Diaz 29 years ago. They got nothing. On the one hand they claim this fight incident was serious enough for the school to "document" it but on the other not serious enough for the school to make sure the cops knew about it when she comes up missing a few days later, come on. What I think is missing here is who was the guy she was warned to stay away from and who is the person that cared besides this one that married the cops nephew.
I wonder if the diary stopped three weeks earlier because she did not want to leave behind a trail of where she went and who she ran away with. I wonder where she and her buddies were hanging out back then. Did she meet a new boyfriend, maybe a pimp? Who was this allegedly older girl she was last seen with, another student or a recruiter. I would assume that they have either cleared that person or have no idea who it is. Does that person have connections to Bunch?
Time to hire DeBaudt before we dig Bunch up and put him on trial.
I'm all for more investigating on this. What bothers me most is I DO believe there are people alive that know what happens - perhaps some that are guilty in their own way of not speaking up. Perhaps further involvement. I think they released all this info to stir the pot and get more info and I hope they get it.

I don't think Bruce graduated and I heard there were 2 other classmates interviewed/suspects back then. I think the girlfriend knows something. I still think Bunch is guilty - too much 'history' for me.

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I'm all for more investigating on this. What bothers me most is I DO believe there are people alive that know what happens - perhaps some that are guilty in their own way of not speaking up. Perhaps further involvement. I think they released all this info to stir the pot and get more info and I hope they get it.
I don't think Bruce graduated and I heard there were 2 other classmates interviewed/suspects back then. I think the girlfriend knows something. I still think Bunch is guilty - too much 'history' for me.
One of the troubles is that the KCSD does not think out of the box. Look at the Fryling case. Who would have thought that a pimp and two hookers would go out Burton to Cascade Twp. and pull that off. I think KCSD spent more time investigating the wife than they did the scumbags that Fryling and his buddies were hanging out with back then. I can tell you from personal experience that there was pimps like the one involved in Fryling actively recruiting suburban girls. They went to places like Woodland Mall and skating rinks to recruit. To a young girl with problems at home the promises would be like the pot of gold at the end of a rainbow. Of course it was all BS but it sounded good at the skating rink. That is why I would want to know what happened that caused her to stop writing in her diary, why did all of a sudden she not want a record of her activities and thoughts, WHY? I bet that is the key, the missing diary is a red herring, it is the fact she stopped that is important. I am thinking her friends have secrets but they are not about some hillbilly from Lowell. I am betting it is about someone new, someone that was sweeping her off her feet but not someone she wanted anyone reading about in her diary.

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One of the troubles is that the KCSD does not think out of the box. Look at the Fryling case. Who would have thought that a pimp and two hookers would go out Burton to Cascade Twp. and pull that off. I think KCSD spent more time investigating the wife than they did the scumbags that Fryling and his buddies were hanging out with back then. I can tell you from personal experience that there was pimps like the one involved in Fryling actively recruiting suburban girls. They went to places like Woodland Mall and skating rinks to recruit. To a young girl with problems at home the promises would be like the pot of gold at the end of a rainbow. Of course it was all BS but it sounded good at the skating rink. That is why I would want to know what happened that caused her to stop writing in her diary, why did all of a sudden she not want a record of her activities and thoughts, WHY? I bet that is the key, the missing diary is a red herring, it is the fact she stopped that is important. I am thinking her friends have secrets but they are not about some hillbilly from Lowell. I am betting it is about someone new, someone that was sweeping her off her feet but not someone she wanted anyone reading about in her diary.
Interesting theory. I don't think that explains why Bruce had nightmares most of his life that he wouldn't tell his wife about. I mean, if I had a nightmare, I'd certainly tell my husband what it was about unless I was keeping a secret. That in and of itself is not a smoking gun. Most here in Lowell who knew him or of him believe he is involved simply because it was his character to get involved in something like that at the time. With your theory, how do you explain the girlfriend failing the poly?

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Interesting theory. I don't think that explains why Bruce had nightmares most of his life that he wouldn't tell his wife about. I mean, if I had a nightmare, I'd certainly tell my husband what it was about unless I was keeping a secret. That in and of itself is not a smoking gun. Most here in Lowell who knew him or of him believe he is involved simply because it was his character to get involved in something like that at the time. With your theory, how do you explain the girlfriend failing the poly?
Polys are not 100% accurate. Giving someone a poly about something that happened 29 years ago has to be tough. Maybe she heard stories since that are becoming foggy and melding into what she knew from her personal experience. This Bruce thing is interesting but not enough there to convince me that they ought to declare it solved and pack their bags.

I just can't believe it was an abduction from the school itself and no one noticed. I think that is why they initially focused in on the janitor, they could not believe she could have been abducted against her will and removed from the premises w/o creating a scene. So if it is not an inside job by someone who could hide her and dispose of her at the building the next logical scenario is that she left voluntarily, either to spend a few hours with a friend or friends or to run away.

Why do you think she would stop writing in the diary. I suppose she could have continued writing and just made stuff up but for some reason based on what we know she just chose to stop writing in it. Now maybe she just reached that age where she did not want to do it anymore but that would be some coincidence. I would still want to know where she was hanging out those last few weeks and with who. That might be where the failed poly comes in, the girlfriend knows, maybe not from personal observation but from stories from the horses mouth. If she was 14 going on 21 as someone kind of implied in the story, I would think running away would be the most likely scenario but that does not eliminate an eventual violent demise. It could be that they ran away from GR and a tragedy happened even in another state or country.

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In the late 1970s there was a fellow that owned a few buildings on the southeast side of Grand Rapids, he was a pimp. He recruited suburban girls, sometimes very young girls. At first it was to be his girlfriend, then they were entertaining his customers in the disco he ran, at first alcohol and dope and then heroin and coke, next thing they knew they were turning tricks. He beat the hell out of one and went to prison for a long time before the Peters girl disappeared as I recall but he was not the only pimp in town recruiting young girls with sex, drugs and disco. One girl I met worked for this guy in Vegas. She would fly back with boatloads of cash, she was a couple of years behind me in parochial school. Every now and then I look in my Yearbook and wonder if she is still alive.

My point is that there was a lot of poop going on in GR back in the late 70s and early 80s involving young suburban girls that could explain one of them disappearing. That is why it is a shame that so much time and energy was lost concentrating on the janitor, I have heard that story as if it was gospel numerous times and now it turns out to be BS. That is why you need someone like DeBaudt to look at this, someone that knows the streets of GR. He solved Fryling by looking on S. Division, not at the intersection of Kraft and Burton. I wonder if this case needs the same fresh look at those lost three weeks.
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Well the whole thing is odd. Bruce's girlfriend is the girl she was in a fight with and who flunked the poly, all the same woman? I guess that was not crystal clear to me. If that is true though why wasn't it known right away. Is she also the one related to the KCSD deputy? Something I think was said about one person marrying into the deputy's family, I thought she was directly related, like a daughter. If all that falls together why didn't the KCSD turn this over to the MSP 29 years ago? On the other hand do you think he would kill her over it, maybe there is something to the accident story, maybe they were trying to teach her a lesson and an accident happened so they dumped the body. Who were his buddies back then? Again it looks to me like they targeted the "foreign" janitor and took their eye off the ball. Once that happens it becomes a persecution instead of an investigation.


Hey, you should join in online this Sunday February 14, 2010 on woodtv.com . Ken Kolker will be in a live chat. I believe it will take place at 6:30 pm. News 8 is running the special on Deanie again on tv at the same time. Maybe some of your questions will be answered.
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Interesting theory. I don't think that explains why Bruce had nightmares most of his life that he wouldn't tell his wife about. I mean, if I had a nightmare, I'd certainly tell my husband what it was about unless I was keeping a secret. That in and of itself is not a smoking gun. Most here in Lowell who knew him or of him believe he is involved simply because it was his character to get involved in something like that at the time. With your theory, how do you explain the girlfriend failing the poly?
Hey, you should join in online this Sunday February 14, 2010 on woodtv.com . Ken Kolker will be in a live chat. I believe it will take place at 6:30 pm. News 8 is running the special on Deanie again on tv at the same time. Maybe some of your questions will be answered.
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I truly believe that if they find out who hung around with Bruce Bunch back then...an answer will come forward!!! Some of his buddies were probably involved and know exactly what happened to Deanie
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