Obama's comment on when life begins.....
Batch37 Pain Is Good

United States

#162 Aug 21, 2008
guitartom wrote:
“Once you leave the womb, conservatives don’t care about you until you reach military age. Then you’re just what they’re looking for. Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers.”- George Carlin
I wonder what George and God are talking about right now.......
To be clear

Grand Rapids, MI

#163 Aug 21, 2008
Fetuses aren't babies until they can live outside of the womb.

“think for yourself”

Since: Aug 08

GR

#164 Aug 21, 2008
Batch37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>I wonder what George and God are talking about right now.......
They are probably having a good laugh at these posts.

“Fed Up”

Since: May 08

Wayland, Michigan

#165 Aug 21, 2008
Dee wrote:
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Seems to be that you follow the "religion" of George Carlin. No offense to George Carlin's memory, I liked him...as a commedian and entertainer.... not my theologan.
It's not a religion but if it was I would be a high priest. I'm actually a pastafarian as you might be able to tell from my avatar.
Batch37 Pain Is Good

United States

#166 Aug 21, 2008
guitartom wrote:
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Ignorant!?!? How is her statement ignorant? People like you want to try and shove the bad things your religion has done while touting the good things. It makes me sick. As good ol' George Carlin said: Throughout history God has been the leading cause of death!
Do you believe in god? No... Bang your dead!
Do you believe in god? Yes... do you believe in MY god? No... Bang your dead!
"When fascism comes to America, it will not be in brown and black shirts. It will not be with jack boots. It will be Nike sneakers and Smiley shirts."
Batch37 Pain Is Good

United States

#167 Aug 21, 2008
To be clear wrote:
Fetuses aren't babies until they can live outside of the womb.
Still a human.

“Fed Up”

Since: May 08

Wayland, Michigan

#168 Aug 21, 2008
Batch37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>I wonder what George and God are talking about right now.......
Probably nothing since one never existed and the other ceases to exist.
Court of Popular Opinion

Grand Rapids, MI

#169 Aug 21, 2008
Then how can they charge a person of a double murder if they kill a pregnant woman, as in the case of Scott Peterson?

If it is a life then it is a life.

A mother who does drugs while pregnant, can be charged for the harm she is doing to her unborn child. It is illegal to harm it, but not illegal to kill it?

“think for yourself”

Since: Aug 08

GR

#170 Aug 21, 2008
Batch37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>"When fascism comes to America, it will not be in brown and black shirts. It will not be with jack boots. It will be Nike sneakers and Smiley shirts."
I would like to ask how you came up with the facism card on this one! What sense are you making? So non-believers are now facists? You are ridiculous!
anomymous

Comstock Park, MI

#171 Aug 21, 2008
john d wrote:
first of all...anyone who will vote for a president based on his religious beliefs or his views on abortion.....should probably have been aborted. They only use these things to gain votes. When was the last time you saw a president REALLY have to make one of these decisions??? NEVER! Not one decision is made based on religious or right to life fundamentals. Its hundreds of people that ultimately make these choices. The president is just the one who tells it to you on television. Second: I love how all you religious nuts out there fight for the right to life and i bet less than one tenth of a percent of you have actually had to make such a hard choice. You stand there with your pickets outside the clinic badgering a woman who is beside herself as it is inside emotionally. You dont give a damn, as long as that baby gets to live. Well let me ask you something? WHERE ARE YOU AFTER THE BABY IS BORN?? Oh, now thats different. You wanted this baby so bad, now whos gonna take care of it? Not you....especially you so called christians who on my experience would rather buy two shirts for himself than give the one of his back for another human being in need. You just call them bums. You all seem to disappear once the baby is born. And then you **** about how everyone is on welfare. Heres a tip: Focus on your own damn family!
I wish there were more people like this in the world. religion has done some good, but its mostly just caused bloodshed and war. i dont know if god exists, but if there is, im sure hes pretty damn pissed at his followers.

Since: Jun 08

United States

#172 Aug 21, 2008
Amy wrote:
Religeon is such a great barometer of what kind of president a person will be--just look at the buffoon we have in the White House now and all the damage he's done. Oh, thats right, God told him to do it, so we'd better not question.
Please specifically list some things that you consider "damage" that President Bush has been personally responsible for. Generalized complaining serves no purpose really. Be specific and perhaps we can all learn something.
To be clear

Grand Rapids, MI

#173 Aug 21, 2008
That's right. Abortion is legal. It's a womans choice. Too bad people are so stupid that they don't get it 30+ years after the law.

“Fed Up”

Since: May 08

Wayland, Michigan

#174 Aug 21, 2008
ShouldaWouldaCoulda wrote:
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Please specifically list some things that you consider "damage" that President Bush has been personally responsible for. Generalized complaining serves no purpose really. Be specific and perhaps we can all learn something.
He caused much unrest in the muslim world which will probably lead to more terrorism and lives being lost. He also sent thousands of troops to war by tricking the stupid american public into thinking that Iraq had something to do with 911. Thousands of troops are now dead and families are torn apart and YES it is ALL because of Bush. Not to mention his failure to react to warnings of the impending 911 attacks. A few air marshals hidden on the planes could have taken down all the 911 terrorists. It seems to be a logical response when you find out that terrorist are determined to use planes to attack the U.S.

Bush will go down in history as being one of if not THE worst president in history. Deep down he knows this and thats why many of us got our "stimulus checks". He is trying to go out on a high note. If he gave 2 shits about the economy for the last 7.5 years maybe we wouldn't need any stimulus!
Old gray haired lady

Portage, MI

#175 Aug 21, 2008
Mark wrote:
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So why is rape wrong? Murder? Stealing? Assault and battery? Child abuse? Polygamy? Lying? Those are all laws based on religion.
So we should get rid of all of them?
One can be moral without being religious.
Fred

Grand Rapids, MI

#176 Aug 21, 2008
For me, it began in my mind with a thought and things just happened after that.

Obama's buddy Jessie Jackson once said

"If in your mind you can see it, then believe it, you can achieve it."
Batch37 Pain Is Good

United States

#177 Aug 21, 2008
ShouldaWouldaCoulda wrote:
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Please specifically list some things that you consider "damage" that President Bush has been personally responsible for. Generalized complaining serves no purpose really. Be specific and perhaps we can all learn something.
Nice, I am getting tired of all the accusations without evidence. They make a disagreement on a position a crime. Liberal Fascists.......

“think for yourself”

Since: Aug 08

GR

#178 Aug 21, 2008
ShouldaWouldaCoulda wrote:
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Please specifically list some things that you consider "damage" that President Bush has been personally responsible for. Generalized complaining serves no purpose really. Be specific and perhaps we can all learn something.
Not to mention that his war with Iraq, which had NO wmd's, is still putting us billions/trillions of dollars in debt, and costing many American casualties. Kids, mind you.

And we haven't touched on the patriot act yet, which infringes on our rights of being free citizens, and the constitution.

“think for yourself”

Since: Aug 08

GR

#179 Aug 21, 2008
Batch37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>Nice, I am getting tired of all the accusations without evidence. They make a disagreement on a position a crime. Liberal Fascists.......
You still didn't answer me. How do you relate this to facism?
pjdutchville

United States

#180 Aug 21, 2008
Life will begin (well, continue in a normal manner) when McCain is elected, and Obama just shuts the he11 up.
Batch37 Pain Is Good

United States

#181 Aug 21, 2008
Amazarak wrote:
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Not to mention that his war with Iraq, which had NO wmd's, is still putting us billions/trillions of dollars in debt, and costing many American casualties. Kids, mind you.
And we haven't touched on the patriot act yet, which infringes on our rights of being free citizens, and the constitution.
List of reasons to go to Iraq is longer than WMD issue. WMD is the only argument the left makes and ignores the rest of the reasons, which have been told over and over again here. The Patriot Act has not impacted on one person to date. If it were unconstitutional then the Supreme Court (the majority are strict constructionists) would say so.

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