More Obamacare Cancellations

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Maryland

#106 Dec 3, 2013
pipedream wrote:
Who is bluevirginia.us??

Using a third party unknown to make claims against another third party is an old tactic. Yell loud enough an maybe you will be heard.

And make certain to not provide any factual claims or provide factual information to refute the information...just try to make the provider of the information look bad. Sounds like a political campaign to me.

Common pipester...you can do better than that.
Sassy

Rochester, MI

#107 Dec 3, 2013
pipedream wrote:
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Funny isn't it - but that's Obamacare! Heritage is where Obamacare came from. Nothing new here, now move along! lol
The basic premise yes, however, Obamacare took a good idea and ruined it with crappy legislation. The law doesn't work and many people will be finding that out by 2015...including you! Scrap the Affordable Health Care Act and start over with a new law that doesn't redistribute wealth or create doctor shortages by the auspices of Medicare expansion.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#108 Dec 3, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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Who is bluevirginia.us??
Using a third party unknown to make claims against another third party is an old tactic. Yell loud enough an maybe you will be heard.
And make certain to not provide any factual claims or provide factual information to refute the information...just try to make the provider of the information look bad. Sounds like a political campaign to me.
Common pipester...you can do better than that.
Read it Wiggles. Its all there for your big nose to consider.

All you've shown wiggles by moving the shell around to a different position is that some hospitals are lucky enough to be choosey about what insurance they'll accept or won't accept. That's always been their prerogative. Another is that some policies on the exchanges have narrower networks than others. Notice I said some -- not all. There are always going to be trade offs when considering price/costs vs choices/benefits. No one ever said Obamacare is perfect. You seem to want to say it was sold as such.

Also your moving the discussion to this new shell game, deriding Obamacare because it supposedly favors insurance companies over other players in the healthcare industry sounds to me like you now prefer a single payer system -- socialized medicine.

You don't know what you want Wiggles, or do you know what you're even talking about.

I think you ought to bunker down Wiggles. The sky is falling again.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#109 Dec 3, 2013
Sassy wrote:
<quoted text>The basic premise yes, however, Obamacare took a good idea and ruined it with crappy legislation. The law doesn't work and many people will be finding that out by 2015...including you! Scrap the Affordable Health Care Act and start over with a new law that doesn't redistribute wealth or create doctor shortages by the auspices of Medicare expansion.
Now its the legislation .... and, Obama ruined a good idea ... and, if only it had this or that or did this or that ... blah, blah, blah.

You have 5 choices. I laid it out for you earlier what those choices were. Choose one. And STFU.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#110 Dec 3, 2013
Oh, and once again, wiggles, where is your factual information to back up your claims? and don't tell me its watchdog.org because I gave you bluevirginia which explained quite well what that site is all about. Dogschit. That's right DOGSCHIT! In fact, I think if you actually read what bluevirginia is saying, they provide several other independent and credible sources that back up quite nicely what it is they're saying.
Sassy

Rochester, MI

#111 Dec 3, 2013
pipedream wrote:
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Now its the legislation .... and, Obama ruined a good idea ... and, if only it had this or that or did this or that ... blah, blah, blah.
You have 5 choices. I laid it out for you earlier what those choices were. Choose one. And STFU.
KMA you little dweeb! Screw Obamacare and screw you.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#112 Dec 3, 2013
So I guess that means you'll be enrolling very soon eh weakling?

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#113 Dec 3, 2013
Bob wrote:
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You could keep up if you would put down the booze and pay better attention......
booze???? really? That's all you can come up with?
It was just a simple question, and since you cant answer it you resort to that?
All I did was ask what union you were in,....all you get all defensive, and resort to "booze".
Pathetic.

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#114 Dec 3, 2013
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>Any private sector business works for profit Bobbie.....
He'll never understand that concept.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#115 Dec 3, 2013
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>Any private sector business works for profit Bobbie.....
Especially that Dollar store where you and trailer park jim are assistant managers at ... I guess its easy to talk profits when its where you work.
Really

Grandville, MI

#116 Dec 3, 2013
pipedream wrote:
So Obama is in bed with the insurance industry now eh? The shell game continues.
And to support your new shell game, you 'pointed' out 'factual' information found anywhere on the web?
Its another conspiracy. The sky is falling, the sky is falling! Where's Issa on this one?
Your comprehension skills haven't improved there pipester/bob. Apparently Mom hasn't assisted you in that endeavor? YahooNews reported how many hospitals are not participating. And guess what? The Obamacare "network" is the one causing this, not the hospitals. Of course, you think any link but freakoutnation is invalid. Of course, you neglect to tell everyone that freakoutnation is a blog, not a factual website. You are one sad little man.

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#117 Dec 3, 2013
pipedream wrote:
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Especially that Dollar store where you and trailer park jim are assistant managers at ... I gu ess its easy to talk profits when its where you work.
Lets just go out on a limb here, and say that you and bob actually got job's,.... don't you think that the owners of said company that you supposedly might be working for, would want to make a profit?
If you would go out, and get a job, you'd get something called a paycheck. And if you work for it, they pay you for it.
Instead, you think that you should get paid by Obama for doing nothing.
Hint,......get a job,.....pay some taxes like the rest of us.
Don't forget to sign up for Obamacare!
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#118 Dec 3, 2013
"The Obamacare "network" " eh cluck-cluck?
Dr X

Rochester, MI

#119 Dec 3, 2013
pipedream wrote:
Oh, and once again, wiggles, where is your factual information to back up your claims? and don't tell me its watchdog.org because I gave you bluevirginia which explained quite well what that site is all about. Dogschit. That's right DOGSCHIT! In fact, I think if you actually read what bluevirginia is saying, they provide several other independent and credible sources that back up quite nicely what it is they're saying.
Attention pipesmoker!!! You are being deported to Cuba. You are to report to the Miami shipyard no later than December 15th for your cruise out of the United States. All food and drink will be provided. I hope you like Saltines and water. Upon arrival in Cuba, the ministry of defense there will have some questions for you. It would be wise to answer all of them. You will be given a job (each according to their talents) and will required to remove all United States insignias from your person along with any capitalist-created music that you possess. You will be orally and anally searched for weapons and drugs without your consent. Failure to cooperate will result in your imprisonment and summary execution. You will be given a "people's shack" in which you will dwell for the rest of your life. You may not sell this property no matter how many roaches are present. Additionally, you will be required to give up your personal property at the request of any high-ranking Cuban official. Your property now belongs to the people of Cuba. You may not own firearms. You may not make unmonitored cell phone calls outside of Cuba. You may not use the internet without government supervision. You may not, at any time, complain or otherwise denigrate the government. The penalty for doing so is 30 years imprisonment with hard labor. You will be enrolled in our wonderful, communist republic healthcare system. Do not get seriously ill. We cannot guarantee what year you will be seen by a physician.

Welcome to Cuba!

Yours truly,
Fidel
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#120 Dec 4, 2013
Sassy wrote:
<quoted text>The basic premise yes, however, Obamacare took a good idea and ruined it with crappy legislation. The law doesn't work and many people will be finding that out by 2015...including you! Scrap the Affordable Health Care Act and start over with a new law that doesn't redistribute wealth or create doctor shortages by the auspices of Medicare expansion.
That's it in a nutshell. But it's becoming more obvious that this law was never intended to address the "good ideas" that democrats are always pitching but never achieve, and is simply another progressive ideological boondoggle of deceitful wealth distribution. Does it lower costs? No one can argue at this point that it has. Can everyone get health insurance? No one can argue at this point that everyone can. In fact, there are plenty of already posted examples of people who've lost their existing insurance and have not been able to afford the Tinfoil Plan in ACA because it tacked on additional coverage they didn't need nor could they afford. And we've more than covered the Big Lie, "if you like your current insurance you can keep it". Thus far not much of anything the democrats promised if they were allowed to pass this law (without reading it) has come to be.

It's always the same with progressives; Hijack a legitimate cause (racism, poverty, health care) and use it to garner support for a pet project that in the end does nothing to address the cause in which they sold it as a solution to the American people.

In the end it's all about wealth redistribution and government control. Obamacare is just another example of progressive lies told to Americans in oder to achieve a political goal.
Really

Grandville, MI

#121 Dec 4, 2013
pipedream wrote:
"The Obamacare "network" " eh cluck-cluck?
So you who "knows" so much about Obamacare, doesn't know about the network of Doctors and Hospitals that participate with said Obamacare? Perhaps you didn't read the report on the Cleveland Clinic, for example, that is only allowed to participate with one level of the Obamacare coverage? How about Cedar Sinai in California that is only allowed to participate with 2 levels? Oh wait, sorry, my bad. The link that Wiggley put up that LISTED the hospitals as examples didn't contain pictures nor was it written in crayon.
Really

Grandville, MI

#122 Dec 4, 2013
Too bad that pipester/bob doesn't know that every insurance plan has a network of physicians and hospitals that said insurance will participate with. Obamacare/ACA is no different. And guess what there kids? Doctors and hospitals choose to participate or NOT based on reimbursement rates from said insurance. Apparently the oh so wonderful ACA reimbursement rates are so "wonderful" that a whole lot of doctors and hospitals are saying "NO" to the ACA participation. So YES, the Obamacare network exists and is extremely limited. One more hit on those who were promised "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor PERIOD." Just one more nail in the Obama legacy coffin.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#123 Dec 4, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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Apparently for Bob it's only OK for insurance and drug companies to make a profit. Everyone else is just whining. Sad.
Apparently, you've got some proof that I said any such thing.....

Or then again, you could just be another whiny beotch.

I'll stick with the latter!
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#124 Dec 4, 2013
Gville Jim wrote:
<quoted text>booze???? really? That's all you can come up with?
It was just a simple question, and since you cant answer it you resort to that?
All I did was ask what union you were in,....all you get all defensive, and resort to "booze".
Pathetic.
And had you been able to stay sober, you would have seen months ago that I no longer work in a UAW union shop.

If you had staggered home before it was too late, you could have read where I said that my health insurance comes from my wife's employer, which is a UAW union shop. You would have also seen your fellow baggers lamely attempt to degrade me because of that, while forgetting that their hero Ted Cruz gets his insurance from his wife too.

Perhaps if you weren't such a lush, you could get a decent job that gave you more benefits than getting to keep the change you find while retrieving shopping carts out of the parking lot.
Oneal

Three Rivers, MI

#125 Dec 4, 2013
Personal attacks and trolling .... it's all the progressives have. Every post proves that more and more, as does every new Obamacare revelation.

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