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Oneal

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Nov 27, 2013
 
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2013/1...

[..."NancyCare" was a cute little sound-byte while it lasted. Now she's canceled her company's previous insurance -- which is now unaffordable thanks to the "Affordable" Care Act -- and her workers are struggling mightily to obtain quality, reasonably-priced coverage through Obamacare's exchanges. Success! Nancy's change in tune is powerful for obvious reasons (although this unraveled "success" story is worse), but the most damning element of that clip is the short montage of Jay Carney lying through his teeth about how Obamacare's dropped coverage epidemic will not affect anyone covered by their company's insurance plan...]
Bob

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It's official.......

You've become the Roger Plafkin of Obamacare!
Oneal

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Bob wrote:
It's official.......
You've become the Roger Plafkin of Obamacare!
And you've never stopped being a cowardly troll!
Bob

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Oneal wrote:
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And you've never stopped being a cowardly troll!
Perhaps you're not aware of this, but all of this copy/paste thing you have been doing lately isn't going to change anyone's mind on the subject.

No matter how much of a lather you get from reading these whacked out bloggers, the only ones getting their panties in a wad are the same fanatics that have had a permanent wedgie going since 2008!

Of course, you don't need to stop......

I enjoy watching you tards having a continuous stroke!
Really

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Bob wrote:
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Perhaps you're not aware of this, but all of this copy/paste thing you have been doing lately isn't going to change anyone's mind on the subject.
No matter how much of a lather you get from reading these whacked out bloggers, the only ones getting their panties in a wad are the same fanatics that have had a permanent wedgie going since 2008!
Of course, you don't need to stop......
I enjoy watching you tards having a continuous stroke!
And your alter ego, the pipester, is having a grand time being a real fool. He must have trained at your knee there Bobby. And all of his "sources" aren't changing anyone's mind either since we are all busily laughing at him and you!
setrlvr

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Bob wrote:
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Perhaps you're not aware of this, but all of this copy/paste thing you have been doing lately isn't going to change anyone's mind on the subject.
No matter how much of a lather you get from reading these whacked out bloggers, the only ones getting their panties in a wad are the same fanatics that have had a permanent wedgie going since 2008!
Of course, you don't need to stop......
I enjoy watching you tards having a continuous stroke!
Who's mind does he have to change? Keep your head buried in the dirt if you want. Just keep your crack covered so we don't have to look at it.
pipedream

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The right wing media won’t report this but the Obamacare site seems to running smoothly

Ezra Klein reports:

There were no error messages or endless hangs. I didn’t complete the final step of purchasing insurance but, until then, the site worked — or at least appeared to work — exactly as intended.

My experience isn’t rare. There are increasing reports that HealthCare.Gov is working better — perhaps much better — for consumers than it was a few short weeks ago.“Consumer advocates say it is becoming easier for people to sign up for coverage,” report Sandhya Somashekhar and Amy Goldstein in the Washington Post.“The truth is, the system is getting stronger as it recovers from its disastrous launch,” writes Sam Baker in the National Journal. Applying “was no problem at all, with no delays,” says Paul Krugman.

Reports from inside the health care bureaucracy are also turning towards optimism. People who knew the Web site was going to be a mess on Oct. 1st are, for the first time, beginning to think HealthCare.Gov might work. Data backs them up: By mid-November, the pace of enrollment in the federal exchanges had doubled from what it was in October.

As for the Obamacare horror stories highlighted in the right wing media, most, if not all of those have been debunked. If any more problems occur, obviously any glitches can be fixed. It’s a website after all.

http://freakoutnation.com/2013/11/27/the-righ...

O-nutso its time for you to enroll!
Oneal

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pipedream wrote:
The right wing media won’t report this but the Obamacare site seems to running smoothly
Ezra Klein reports:
There were no error messages or endless hangs. I didn’t complete the final step of purchasing insurance but, until then, the site worked — or at least appeared to work — exactly as intended.
My experience isn’t rare. There are increasing reports that HealthCare.Gov is working better — perhaps much better — for consumers than it was a few short weeks ago.“Consumer advocates say it is becoming easier for people to sign up for coverage,” report Sandhya Somashekhar and Amy Goldstein in the Washington Post.“The truth is, the system is getting stronger as it recovers from its disastrous launch,” writes Sam Baker in the National Journal. Applying “was no problem at all, with no delays,” says Paul Krugman.
Reports from inside the health care bureaucracy are also turning towards optimism. People who knew the Web site was going to be a mess on Oct. 1st are, for the first time, beginning to think HealthCare.Gov might work. Data backs them up: By mid-November, the pace of enrollment in the federal exchanges had doubled from what it was in October.
As for the Obamacare horror stories highlighted in the right wing media, most, if not all of those have been debunked. If any more problems occur, obviously any glitches can be fixed. It’s a website after all.
http://freakoutnation.com/2013/11/27/the-righ...
O-nutso its time for you to enroll!
Keep offering your face up to be smacked by reality, pipe. All you've copy/pasted is someone elses' convoluted spin for WHY Obama lied. He still lied, and people are still paying more for their coverage and those that had insurance are still receiving cancellation notices. People are still unable to afford insurance. All despite the democrats promising the exact opposite.

The government spending hundreds of millions more to prop up their already overpriced humpty.gov debacle is only going to offer more examples of people signing up and discovering they're going to be paying far more than they expected for Nancy's little Happy Meal Healthcare.

Go ahead ... smash your silly troll face into reality again. It's funny!
pipedream

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The only "Funny" is you O-nutso. The article I posted stands. Call them liars if you want, but your opinion is just that -- opinion. Go ahead post more of your endless B.S. here so I can post rebuttal and debunk it. Keep coming back on here trying to get even. Who are you trying to impress? Your half a dozen trailer trash dwellers? The real facts are that you're stuck on stupid, bitter, and just plain wrong no matter how many of your bull-schit copy and pastes from bloggers and all other nonsense you plant on this forum hoping someone will pat you on your fat azz. My God find something else to do because at the end of the day Obama and the ACA will still be here and millions of people, who previously were either denied, had their insurance cancelled for no good reason, or who need 'real' health insurance will finally be able to enroll in a policy that means something.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

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Bob wrote:
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Perhaps you're not aware of this, but all of this copy/paste thing you have been doing lately isn't going to change anyone's mind on the subject.
No matter how much of a lather you get from reading these whacked out bloggers, the only ones getting their panties in a wad are the same fanatics that have had a permanent wedgie going since 2008!
Of course, you don't need to stop......
I enjoy watching you tards having a continuous stroke!
So how to you plan to pay for your health insurance????? You don't make enough to pay for your home AND Obamacare....... You poor ignorant fool....
pipedream

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Unlike you Bob has a great job with excellent health insurance and other benefits. Why don't you?
vox veritatis

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Nov 27, 2013
 
pipedream wrote:
Unlike you Bob has a great job with excellent health insurance and other benefits. Why don't you?
How would you know unless you were bob, pippybob?
vox veritatis

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Nov 27, 2013
 
Bob wrote:
It's official.......
You've become the Roger Plafkin of Obamacare!
Awww...whatsa matter, pippybob? Getting a wounded ego watching your messiah get spanked day after day over the train wreck that his signature legislation has become? Your irritation over being presented with this fact over and over is starting to show.
Oneal

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Nov 27, 2013
 
pipedream wrote:
The only "Funny" is you O-nutso. The article I posted stands. Call them liars if you want, but your opinion is just that -- opinion. Go ahead post more of your endless B.S. here so I can post rebuttal and debunk it. Keep coming back on here trying to get even. Who are you trying to impress? Your half a dozen trailer trash dwellers? The real facts are that you're stuck on stupid, bitter, and just plain wrong no matter how many of your bull-schit copy and pastes from bloggers and all other nonsense you plant on this forum hoping someone will pat you on your fat azz. My God find something else to do because at the end of the day Obama and the ACA will still be here and millions of people, who previously were either denied, had their insurance cancelled for no good reason, or who need 'real' health insurance will finally be able to enroll in a policy that means something.
Incapable of communicating without an endless drone of regurgitated insults, you've yet to post a rebuttal that "debunks" the reality that this law does not offer everyone affordable insurance, millions cannot keep their current policy even though they liked it and millions still are just waiting for the damned website to run. When they do get on it they, like those before them - examples within the "copy/paste" factual articles I provided - they will discover the "Affordable" Care Act is incredibly unaffordable in many cases and they'll be forced into a package plan that includes costly procedures that they're never going to need because guys don't need pap smears and girl son't need testicular examinations.

Now you and Bob can keep posting your opinion pieces all damned day but not one of them has even come close to "debunking" a thing.

Answer the question: Have millions been dropped from their existing insurance?

I don't want to hear that they're now invested in what YOU consider a better plan for them. Just answer the question straight up yes or no. Have millions been dropped?
Really

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pipedream wrote:
The only "Funny" is you O-nutso. The article I posted stands. Call them liars if you want, but your opinion is just that -- opinion. Go ahead post more of your endless B.S. here so I can post rebuttal and debunk it. Keep coming back on here trying to get even. Who are you trying to impress? Your half a dozen trailer trash dwellers? The real facts are that you're stuck on stupid, bitter, and just plain wrong no matter how many of your bull-schit copy and pastes from bloggers and all other nonsense you plant on this forum hoping someone will pat you on your fat azz. My God find something else to do because at the end of the day Obama and the ACA will still be here and millions of people, who previously were either denied, had their insurance cancelled for no good reason, or who need 'real' health insurance will finally be able to enroll in a policy that means something.
And all "freakoutnation" is giving is their opinion. No facts, just drivel that proves once again that they and you have your noses so far up Obama's backside you won't ever breath normally again! And yeah a "policy that means something" with the meaning being, they CANNOT afford the premiums you doofus!
pipedream

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Wrong again Cluck-cluck. Freakout Nation is not opinion pieces. Their articles contain information they've gleaned from other sources, mostly public, open sources, and they are factual and accurate. Just because you don't like what they print, doesn't mean they are false, biased or inaccurate. How can it be that you're wrong so often? I've pointed it out to you and the world numerous times. I know -- 2 words. You're stupid.
pipedream

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Oneal wrote:
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you've yet to post a rebuttal that "debunks"
I can't help it if you can't or won't read, or don't like what I've posted in rebuttal to your bull-zhit. Your cut and paste right wing talking point claims are easily rebutted. The information is out there that shows quite clearly the reasons insurers have cancelled some policies and how premium prices of policies on the exchanges compare/contrast to what was being sold since ACA became law. There are also volumes of data, facts, etc. out there that demonstrates that Obamacare is not the unmitigated disaster you claim it to be. Go find it and get back to me. In the meantime O-nutso I'll remind you again -- You have 5 choices to chose from as to how you address your health insurance needs going forward. I suggest you get busy and decide on one.
pipedream

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Did Medicare Part D have the same rollout problems as the Obamacare online marketplaces?

Politifact says yes. Read their findings here.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/state...

A report documenting the history of Medicare Part D was released earlier this year by a group of health policy experts at the Center on Health Insurance Reform at Georgetown University. It highlighted several areas where Medicare Part D struggled in its implementation that sound extremely familiar.

For one thing, the Bush administration faced a difficult political battle to get the bill passed in 2003. That damaged public opinion of the law, making it a challenge to educate 43 million seniors on its nuances.

Enrollment in the law was set to begin in late 2005. In April of that year, a Kaiser Family Foundation poll found that only 27 percent of respondents understood the law, while only 21 percent favored it.(In a comparable Kaiser poll in April 2013, 35 percent viewed the Affordable Care Act favorably and less than half felt they were well-informed of its details.)

The Medicare site, meant to help seniors pick benefit plans, was supposed to debut Oct. 13, 2005, but it didn’t go live until weeks later in November. Even then, "the tool itself appeared to be in need of fixing," the Washington Post reported at the time.

"Visitors to the site could not access it for most of the first two hours. When it finally did come up around 5 p.m., it operated awfully slowly," the Post reported.(Sensing a pattern?)

Once seniors began to enroll, problems persisted. According to the report, the online tools had "accuracy problems," and local organizations designated with assisting seniors "reported problems getting necessary and accurate information." Call centers provided by the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services underestimated "the needed capacity to ensure that reliable answers could be provided" and "service representatives were not knowledgeable or failed to provide accurate information."

How quickly you baggers forget. Read it and weep.
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Flashback: GOP Wanted To 'Fix' Medicare Part D After 'Horrendous' Rollout

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/gop-medicare-...

A few weeks into the launch of the most sweeping health care reform law in a generation, John Boehner declared that the implementation was a disaster.

"The implementation," the Republican leader said, "has been horrendous. We've made it far more complicated than it should be."

Boehner, of course, was talking about the rollout of the new Medicare prescription drug benefit -- known as Part D -- enacted in 2003 by President George W. Bush. He discussed the implementation woes during a Feb. 6, 2006 appearance on "Fox News Sunday," on his fifth day as House majority leader.

It was a rough time for the law's proponents. The soft launch was "anything but smooth," according to the Washington Post, marred by at least two delays along with other, deeper problems. Upon launch, the Bush administration admitted to receiving "tens of thousands of complaints by seniors, pharmacists and others" about implementation failures. Health and Human Services vowed to "fix every problem as quickly as possible."
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Nov 27, 2013
 
pipedream wrote:
Did Medicare Part D have the same rollout problems as the Obamacare online marketplaces?
Nope. Millions of people didn't have their prescription coverage cancelled. Fail. Again.
You better be careful, pippybob...the obamacare cyberwarriors are going to pull the plug on you for being such a dismal failure and embarrassment to the team.

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