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vox veritatis

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WTF are you talking about?
First off a 14 year old is not responsible enough to have sex, father a child or have an abortion. I don't know of any ..
Uh oh...someone is a little out of touch with their party's core beliefs.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/st...
http://blog.heritage.org/2010/03/25/parental-...
and let's not forget that the democrats are the party that like to teach our teens about fisting and other 'alternative' sex practices. http://blog.heritage.org/2010/03/25/parental-...
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and let's not forget that the Democrats like to send guns to other countries where they're used for things like this:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/furious...

Funny how the media and the progressives who are all anti-gun now weren't in hysterics about 16 Mexican teens being massacred at a birthday party with guns our government supplied.
SeenItBefore

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Feb 5, 2013
 
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Come on Stevie, I thought you were smarter then this. Guess not. What he is referring to is in "New York City schools are offering young girls a full menu of birth control options, free of parental counsel, thanks to an unpublicized project by Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s administration."
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/...
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But WHAT THE HELL does that have to do with a discussion on the need for or not gun safes?

These right-wing non sequiturs just to have something to say serves as being nothing more than distraction. But then again that seems to be their point.
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But WHAT THE HELL does that have to do with a discussion on the need for or not gun safes?
These right-wing non sequiturs just to have something to say serves as being nothing more than distraction. But then again that seems to be their point.
Try some facts on for size. BTW...hormomes make poor subtitutes for brains. Try a little less emotion and a little more logic for a change.
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vox veritatis wrote:
http://www.policymic.com/artic les/23170/gun-control-facts-ho micides-and-violent-crime-have -dropped-50-over-the-last-20-y ears
And again and again that has NOTHING to do with a discussion on the need or not for a gun safe.

And try actually reading the articles you link. It only makes you look the bigger fool for not understanding the full scope of it.
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SeenItBefore wrote:
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And again and again that has NOTHING to do with a discussion on the need or not for a gun safe.
And try actually reading the articles you link. It only makes you look the bigger fool for not understanding the full scope of it.
When confronted with a fact that doesn't fit into their narrow mindset, the fanatics always resort to deflection!

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Oh boy hey lets just make it a law if you own a gun you have to buy a gun safe, problem solved. And then register your safe with the government. And of course micro chip your guns with RFID chips so they can monitor where your guns are. To make sure your being good little sheeple and not breaking the rules... oh and lets RFID ammunition so we can track every bullet and who bought it.
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Shoeless Eluder wrote:
Oh boy hey lets just make it a law if you own a gun you have to buy a gun safe, problem solved. And then register your safe with the government. And of course micro chip your guns with RFID chips so they can monitor where your guns are. To make sure your being good little sheeple and not breaking the rules... oh and lets RFID ammunition so we can track every bullet and who bought it.
Right away when someone talks about responsible actions the right-wing immediately goes at them trying to make it a law. Can you not grasp the concept that if more people acted responsibly in the first place less would be clambering for laws to make it necessary.

As I remember it there is no law for gun safes. Business perceived there to be, at least a want, if not a need, for them so they started manufacturing them. And people have been buying them. Without a law telling them they have to. So the companies keep manufacturing them. Without a law. And people keep buying them. Without a law.

So if you want to make this some sort of a conspiracy we could extrapolate that to be if anyone wants a law for gun safes it must be gun safe manufactures so more gun safes will be sold.

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Right away when someone talks about responsible actions the right-wing immediately goes at them trying to make it a law. Can you not grasp the concept that if more people acted responsibly in the first place less would be clambering for laws to make it necessary.
As I remember it there is no law for gun safes. Business perceived there to be, at least a want, if not a need, for them so they started manufacturing them. And people have been buying them. Without a law telling them they have to. So the companies keep manufacturing them. Without a law. And people keep buying them. Without a law.
So if you want to make this some sort of a conspiracy we could extrapolate that to be if anyone wants a law for gun safes it must be gun safe manufactures so more gun safes will be sold.
Apparently you did not get what I was putting forth. Yes people buy gun safes for what reason I don't know. My suggestion for making a law was not serious it was absurd of course, but I will guarantee you some idiot congressman or senator will come up with it. And I would bet they are trying to think up a way to insert RFID chips in guns and bullets because that is how retarded liberals think. They are the ones who pass laws that no one can obey there is one big one that just got signed into law "The unaffordable health care act (law). Once it is in full force the Government health care industry will take over and own you. Absurd yes but plausible, just wait the health police will soon be monitoring your every move waging their finger at you.

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Right away when someone talks about responsible actions the right-wing immediately goes at them trying to make it a law. Can you not grasp the concept that if more people acted responsibly in the first place less would be clambering for laws to make it necessary.

From what I hear and read from the leftist media, liberal senators, congressman and BHO and his strange wife, none of us are smart enough, responsible enough, or capable enough to take care of ourselves or our own business, we need their help, new laws, we need to be reeducated on how to eat exercise, sleep I could go on. we hear everyone is hurting, everyone is sick, or has some dis-ease,(notice the hyphen)? I mean look at all the drugs we need for this, or that ailment or malady.

SIB most of what I post is absurd or cynical or sarcastic. I do it on purpose. I am surprised you don't get it
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<quoted text>Apparently you did not get what I was putting forth. Yes people buy gun safes for what reason I don't know. My suggestion for making a law was not serious it was absurd of course, but I will guarantee you some idiot congressman or senator will come up with it. And I would bet they are trying to think up a way to insert RFID chips in guns and bullets because that is how retarded liberals think. They are the ones who pass laws that no one can obey there is one big one that just got signed into law "The unaffordable health care act (law). Once it is in full force the Government health care industry will take over and own you. Absurd yes but plausible, just wait the health police will soon be monitoring your every move waging their finger at you.
Had you been keeping up on that hostage of a 5 year old boy in Alabama where he killed the school bus driver? That is all over now. He was a government is out to get me person. Also a decorated Vietnam Vet. Yes the government was out to get him. He made his fear a self fulfilling fear.

My point is all this projecting that somehow the government is put to get us all is somethitng to be keeping an eye open for but is nothing more than an unfounded fear.

On my Social Security card it says "FOR SOCIAL SECURITY AND TAX PURPOSES - NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION". Who has your Social Security number on file? EVERY private business you have ever dealt with that wanted it and you provided for whatever reason(s). Credit reporting agencies have it on file. It is reasonable for employers to have your number to report Social Security taxes paid. Why is it "reasonable" for every other private business to have that number? Are they reporting your SS taxes paid?

I know for a fact that because we have paid with a debt card Meijer has all our information on file. They keep track of our buying habits whenever using a card to pay. Why is it reasonable for them to track you? I have gotten solicitations in the mail from businesses I have never done "business" with. How is that? Our information gets sold to other businesses. Money is made from our information without our consent and/or knowledge.

What's my point? The private sector businesses know far more about me than I have ever given permission for them to have. Their use of my Social Security number is to be able to keep track of my whereabouts where ever I may move to. I am more "afraid" of business having my information to track me than I am with the government. At least with the government I have a legal say so in what they do. Where I do not with a private corporation that can track me.

Retarded Liberals? How about diabolical conservatives.

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Had you been keeping up on that hostage of a 5 year old boy in Alabama where he killed the school bus driver? That is all over now. He was a government is out to get me person. Also a decorated Vietnam Vet. Yes the government was out to get him. He made his fear a self fulfilling fear.
My point is all this projecting that somehow the government is put to get us all is somethitng to be keeping an eye open for but is nothing more than an unfounded fear.
On my Social Security card it says "FOR SOCIAL SECURITY AND TAX PURPOSES - NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION". Who has your Social Security number on file? EVERY private business you have ever dealt with that wanted it and you provided for whatever reason(s). Credit reporting agencies have it on file. It is reasonable for employers to have your number to report Social Security taxes paid. Why is it "reasonable" for every other private business to have that number? Are they reporting your SS taxes paid?
I know for a fact that because we have paid with a debt card Meijer has all our information on file. They keep track of our buying habits whenever using a card to pay. Why is it reasonable for them to track you? I have gotten solicitations in the mail from businesses I have never done "business" with. How is that? Our information gets sold to other businesses. Money is made from our information without our consent and/or knowledge.
What's my point? The private sector businesses know far more about me than I have ever given permission for them to have. Their use of my Social Security number is to be able to keep track of my whereabouts where ever I may move to. I am more "afraid" of business having my information to track me than I am with the government. At least with the government I have a legal say so in what they do. Where I do not with a private corporation that can track me.
Retarded Liberals? How about diabolical conservatives.
We really agree we just have a different point of view tangled up and blue. Anyway its all absurd and this dude wont abide. I am sure if you and I were to meet face to face and really talk we would agree more than disagree. I am neither liberal or conservative I see all points of view. I really am a new age spiritualist who is just having fun here... You should come up to TC and meet me at 7 Monks for some craft beers. Love Ya S E
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Feb 6, 2013
 
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
<quoted text>We really agree we just have a different point of view tangled up and blue. Anyway its all absurd and this dude wont abide. I am sure if you and I were to meet face to face and really talk we would agree more than disagree. I am neither liberal or conservative I see all points of view. I really am a new age spiritualist who is just having fun here... You should come up to TC and meet me at 7 Monks for some craft beers. Love Ya S E
Really like TC. I would move there but winter comes earlier and stays longer. We have some really good friends that live there and go whenever we can. Two of them are in TX for the winter. REALLY good people.
Cheers.
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Feb 6, 2013
 
Oh ya Shoeless, North Peak is a pretty good place too. Never been to 7 Monks. How do they compare?
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You need to keep a closer eye on your other personalities.
Something really scary about everyone that doesn't agree has to be this Jason. Not me that needs to be checking multiple personalities.

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Oh ya Shoeless, North Peak is a pretty good place too. Never been to 7 Monks. How do they compare?
7 Monks is a tap room and they have a small menu now I am no beer nut I like mine light and full flavored none of that bitter or dark crap. I really don't think it matters much where you go around here there is something for everyone. The best thing is I live about ten minutes from downtown. Its been a year and a couple months since I moved out of GR and let me tell you its a whole new experience living in a smaller town its amazing.
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Feb 7, 2013
 
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
<quoted text>7 Monks is a tap room and they have a small menu now I am no beer nut I like mine light and full flavored none of that bitter or dark crap. I really don't think it matters much where you go around here there is something for everyone. The best thing is I live about ten minutes from downtown. Its been a year and a couple months since I moved out of GR and let me tell you its a whole new experience living in a smaller town its amazing.
Try the Hanger Steak at North Peak........ Nothing is bad on that plate.....

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<quoted text>Try the Hanger Steak at North Peak........ Nothing is bad on that plate.....
Had it last week mmm good.

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