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Mark Luxford

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Right Wing crazies are calling Holder's statement below evidence of perjury (lying under oath to a Judiciary Committee) because it is inconsistent with earlier DOJ statements that Holder was made aware of, and was involved in, an investigation into classified information leaks which resulted in resulted in a search warrant for Fox News Jounalist Jim Rosen's emails and phone records.
"In regard to potential prosecution of the press for the disclosure of material. This is not something Iíve ever been involved in, heard of, or would think would be wise policy.
Note that Holder's statement specifically referred to "potential prosecution of the press for DISCLOSURE of [classifed} material.
The investigation of Rosen involved possible violations of the Espionage Act by "SOLICITING" information from a state department employee who was being investigated for leaking CLASSIFIED INFORMATION on NORTH KOREA. The search warrant application seeking Rosen's communication records specifically stated DOJ believed ROSEN to be an "aider, abettor, and/or co-conspirator" in the classified information leak (A VIOLATION OF THE ESPIONAGE ACT). The federal judge authorizing the search warrant agreed the government showed 'probable cause' and authorized the search warrant. Furthermore, the search warrant application made no mention of Rosen or the Press being investigated or potentially prosecuted for "disclosure" of [classified] material.
Read Holder's statement and read the DOJ/FBI search warrant application and quit spinning this into something its not.
Exactly right, pipedream. I saw Holder's interview on NBC and he pointed out that the law requires the terms "aider, abettor, and/or co-conspirator" in a search warrant application. He wasn't insinuating that Rosen is a criminal or threatening prosecution of him, he was simply meeting a legal requirement for a search warrant.
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Mark Luxford wrote:
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Exactly right, pipedream. I saw Holder's interview on NBC and he pointed out that the law requires the terms "aider, abettor, and/or co-conspirator" in a search warrant application. He wasn't insinuating that Rosen is a criminal or threatening prosecution of him, he was simply meeting a legal requirement for a search warrant.
If he didn't think Rosen was any of those things, why in the name of all that's holy would he need a warrant???? Your circular logic certainly is busy excusing a Democratic administration of being liars. Not surprised however.
Howdy Doody

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Were Holder's lips moving? If so - he was likely lying!
Bob

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Jun 7, 2013
 
Maybe he is just rehearsing for the lead part in the upcoming movie about.......

Scooter Libby!
Oneal

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<quoted text>If he didn't think Rosen was any of those things, why in the name of all that's holy would he need a warrant???? Your circular logic certainly is busy excusing a Democratic administration of being liars. Not surprised however.
The left is throwing out talking points and test balloons like Pez dispensers on this one. Holder is an anchor around the Obama administration but they're so empowered by the Useful Idiots that elected Obama they don't want admit any wrongdoing and think they'll get away with it. If it were entirely up to morons like Bob and Piehole they could trample over American citizens at will.
Mark Luxford

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<quoted text>If he didn't think Rosen was any of those things, why in the name of all that's holy would he need a warrant???? Your circular logic certainly is busy excusing a Democratic administration of being liars. Not surprised however.
Why would he need a search warrant? Are you really that clueless? They were investigating a security leak passed on to Rosen concerning North Korea. Oh wait a minure, if you're going to portray my statement of facts as circular logic, then I guess you really are that cludless.
Howdy Doody

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Jun 7, 2013
 
Bob wrote:
Maybe he is just rehearsing for the lead part in the upcoming movie about.......
Scooter Libby!
And maybe you're auditioning for a role in the remake of Dumb and Dumber! Come on Bob - even you have to admit that this administration is driving the US into the sea!
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

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pipedream wrote:
Now Holder lied under oath? Hey Dr. Dread ... You've never heard a conspiracy theory you didn't like ... But if it first doesn't look good, or its shown to be another falsehood perpetrated by the right or the media, just make up a different lie or twist the facts to suit yourself. This kind of stuff goes on everyday in the minds of crazies like yourself. In other words, whatever it is, just make it fit into the garbage story you want the public to believe for political gain or market share no matter how ridiculous or bizarre.
I bet you stay awake at night thinking this stuff up.
You still trying to get a gig at the county fair with the calfs? Sicko.....
Really

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Mark Luxford wrote:
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Why would he need a search warrant? Are you really that clueless? They were investigating a security leak passed on to Rosen concerning North Korea. Oh wait a minure, if you're going to portray my statement of facts as circular logic, then I guess you really are that cludless.
I guess you don't really care that Rosen's constitutional rights were violated then. Apparently since he works for FOX news it's quite alright with the progressives. You also don't seem to care that Holder has lied and Obama has decided to let him keep lying. I suspected that the progessives wouldn't really care how many lies Obama told, but even I am surprised at how many of the progressives here don't care. Good grief, even the NYT has said that the Obama administration has zero credibility.
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<quoted text>I guess you don't really care that Rosen's constitutional rights were violated then. Apparently since he works for FOX news it's quite alright with the progressives. You also don't seem to care that Holder has lied and Obama has decided to let him keep lying. I suspected that the progessives wouldn't really care how many lies Obama told, but even I am surprised at how many of the progressives here don't care. Good grief, even the NYT has said that the Obama administration has zero credibility.
These progressive moonbats are stuck in such over-politicized radicalism they will absolutely refuse to admit what everyone else already knows.

The only transparency in the Hope & Change era comes from the blatant, ignorant and obnoxious hypocrisy from this administration and it's Useful Idiot voting herd, who whined like babies for a decade when Bush stepped on the constitution, but defend Obama for trampling on it.

You liberals won alright. Congrats! Nice job!! You reelected GW Bush's evil darker twin.
Yogi

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Jun 10, 2013
 
"Did Holder lie under oath?" Do bears relieve themselves in the woods?

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