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Oneal

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http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/201...

It sure looks like it. Holder was asked last week by "Go Blues" favorite democratic, Hank Johnson, about his involvement with prosecuting the press and he claimed he had no involvement. Last night, NBC News reported Holder personally signed off on the secret monitoring of Fox News Reporter James Rosen. In that case, Rosen was named as a "co-conspirator" and treated as a criminal for trying to obtain information from a source...]

So Holder, under oath, stated he had NO involvement, yet facts show he signed off on it.

Between the IRS scandal and this targeting of James Rosen, Holder is edging increasingly close to being given the boot.

Of course, liberals don't care if a fellow liberal lies under oath.
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Now Holder lied under oath? Hey Dr. Dread ... You've never heard a conspiracy theory you didn't like ... But if it first doesn't look good, or its shown to be another falsehood perpetrated by the right or the media, just make up a different lie or twist the facts to suit yourself. This kind of stuff goes on everyday in the minds of crazies like yourself. In other words, whatever it is, just make it fit into the garbage story you want the public to believe for political gain or market share no matter how ridiculous or bizarre.

I bet you stay awake at night thinking this stuff up.
Oneal

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pipedream wrote:
Now Holder lied under oath? Hey Dr. Dread ... You've never heard a conspiracy theory you didn't like ... But if it first doesn't look good, or its shown to be another falsehood perpetrated by the right or the media, just make up a different lie or twist the facts to suit yourself. This kind of stuff goes on everyday in the minds of crazies like yourself. In other words, whatever it is, just make it fit into the garbage story you want the public to believe for political gain or market share no matter how ridiculous or bizarre.
I bet you stay awake at night thinking this stuff up.
Stop ankle-biting me, troll.

The report I provided was based on Holder's own words and actions. Notice, the headline was in the form of a question - To anyone with a brain that would denote an open topic to discuss, not a final verdict. Although it doesn't look good for Holder on the honesty meter, I'm open for any evidence you can provide that would lead one to believe it is unlikely he lied under oath. I'm sure you have such evidence, so I'll just wait for you to provide it ...
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The 'report' you provided is just another b.s. right wing twisted claim.

WTF is wrong with you? If you read or heard from some right winger that the sun actually sets in the east you'd believe it.

Just shut the f up before you're hauled off and locked up for being too stupid to see light.
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Holder admitted he was involved in getting the phone records or knew of DOJ investigating LEAKS that involved national security. That's pretty f'g obvious. For one, its his job. He did not admit to involvement in a DOJ plot to improperly target the Press or violate anyone's 1st Amendment rights. good reason.

End of story. Now run along before you fall off the edge.
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pipedream wrote:
The 'report' you provided is just another b.s. right wing twisted claim.
WTF is wrong with you? If you read or heard from some right winger that the sun actually sets in the east you'd believe it.
Just shut the f up before you're hauled off and locked up for being too stupid to see light.
Sooooo, NBC is "right wing" now? The only people who need to be "locked up for refusing to see the light" are you and your aka "elephant dung" buddy. what a pair of ankle biting annoyances you two are.
pipedream

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Oneal wrote:
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Stop ankle-biting me, troll.
Angle-biting you? LOL. I'm going to get right into your stupid F'g face that's what I'm going to do. You open your pie hole like with nonsense like you are what do you think is going to happen? Just be thankful and consider yourself lucky you can hide behind your anonymity and your keyboard.
Oneal

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pipedream wrote:
The 'report' you provided is just another b.s. right wing twisted claim.
WTF is wrong with you? If you read or heard from some right winger that the sun actually sets in the east you'd believe it.
Just shut the f up before you're hauled off and locked up for being too stupid to see light.
Are you completely incapable of open-mindedness?

The report wasn't based on some "right winger's" opinion, fool, it was taken from Holder's own words and actions. He stated under oath he had no involvement, but his signature reveals he did. The fact you can't reasonably accept this as a reasonable concern is enough proof of who's too stupid to see the light - or as I have long considered you, just plain stuck on stupid and not worth the time to argue.

Grow up for a second and listen reasonably: Your opinion is we should play a game of semantics as to what constitutes "involvement". It smacks of Clinton's "what IS IS" and "what constitutes sexual relations". OK, duly noted.

Now rather than continue to play socialist bully, and run around angrily claiming people who you don't happen to agree with should be "locked up", just diaper yourself and accept that when words under oath don't match reality, especially those of someone in Eric Holder's powerful position, there is every reason to raise the question this thread raises without being insulted by some angry little progressive cyber twit.
pipedream

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Once again I have no idea what you're talking about and don't care.

I know what Holder said and I explained to you what he said. Scroll up and read it again. There's no conspiracy and he didn't lie under oath. PERIOD. Take my advice and get your meds adjusted because you're hallucinating again -- seeing and hearing things -- that aren't there.

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pipedream wrote:
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Angle-biting you? LOL. I'm going to get right into your stupid F'g face that's what I'm going to do. You open your pie hole like with nonsense like you are what do you think is going to happen? Just be thankful and consider yourself lucky you can hide behind your anonymity and your keyboard.
Actually I think that would be YOU who's the little man, troll. Since I have read many people calling you out and offering to meet in person yet you completely IGNORE all of them.

What's the matter little man? Afraid you would get your ass handed to you? You are nothing but a coward and a bully.
Oneal

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pipedream wrote:
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Angle-biting you? LOL. I'm going to get right into your stupid F'g face that's what I'm going to do. You open your pie hole like with nonsense like you are what do you think is going to happen? Just be thankful and consider yourself lucky you can hide behind your anonymity and your keyboard.
That's ANKLE-BITING, and you are guilty as charged.

LOL ... impressive words from the security of your own anonymity there pip. Where have I heard all this before?

Pippy, we've seen dozens of angry little trolls like you come and go. Thinking you'll arrive and set everyone straight and in line with your own personal views, but lacking the facts and intelligence to do much more than embarrass yourself, and ultimately taking your ball and going home, your tail between your legs but having learned nothing in the process.

Make no mistake, it's not you who's in my face, troll. Around my ankles maybe, but hardly in my face. Reality reveals it's I who can at any time of my choosing within a few posts bring you to complete spittle-flinging foolishness by making threats on a chat site.

Am I mean for doing this. Maybe. But I give you the choice; You want to discuss current topics intelligently? Fine. You want to ankle-bite me? You'll be brought to the same embarrassing position I've brought much smarter people than you in the past.
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pipedream wrote:
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Angle-biting you? LOL. I'm going to get right into your stupid F'g face that's what I'm going to do. You open your pie hole like with nonsense like you are what do you think is going to happen? Just be thankful and consider yourself lucky you can hide behind your anonymity and your keyboard.
Back to the play ground mentality again?
Oneal

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pipedream wrote:
Once again I have no idea what you're talking about and don't care.
I know what Holder said and I explained to you what he said. Scroll up and read it again. There's no conspiracy and he didn't lie under oath. PERIOD. Take my advice and get your meds adjusted because you're hallucinating again -- seeing and hearing things -- that aren't there.
Gotcha, some angry nutball on a chat site said Holder didn't lie under oath. I guess we can all go home now, folks.
pipedream

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Oneal wrote:
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Gotcha, some angry nutball on a chat site said Holder didn't lie under oath. I guess we can all go home now, folks.
You're right that's what I said. I'll say it again. Holder did not Lie under oath. You're hallucinating again. There are medications for your condition. Get some.
Oneal

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pipedream wrote:
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You're right that's what I said. I'll say it again. Holder did not Lie under oath. You're hallucinating again. There are medications for your condition. Get some.
Yes, pipe, were all aware of your opinion on this. Unfortunately your opinion carries about as much status as a foam nose and rainbow colored wig. So unless you want to go off on another rant and threaten to beat people up on a chat site again I think we can figure out where you stand, for what that's worth.
pipedream

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show me where I threatened to beat people up Dr. Dread?
pipedream

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Fox News Whitewashes Reality To Smear Holder With Perjury Accusations

Stop your smear campaign on Topix Dr. Dread. Your claims are bull shit just as are those being made concerning Holder alleged perjury by Fox News and other right wing news sources and bloggers.

Here are the facts without the the spin.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/05/24/fox-n...

Once again Holder did not commit perjury.

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pipedream wrote:
Here are the facts without the the spin.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/05/24/fox-n...
Media matters has no spin? ROFLMBO...thanks for the lunchtime chuckle there, little troll.
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Right Wing crazies are calling Holder's statement below evidence of perjury (lying under oath to a Judiciary Committee) because it is inconsistent with earlier DOJ statements that Holder was made aware of, and was involved in, an investigation into classified information leaks which resulted in resulted in a search warrant for Fox News Jounalist Jim Rosen's emails and phone records.

"In regard to potential prosecution of the press for the disclosure of material. This is not something Iíve ever been involved in, heard of, or would think would be wise policy.

Note that Holder's statement specifically referred to "potential prosecution of the press for DISCLOSURE of [classifed} material.

The investigation of Rosen involved possible violations of the Espionage Act by "SOLICITING" information from a state department employee who was being investigated for leaking CLASSIFIED INFORMATION on NORTH KOREA. The search warrant application seeking Rosen's communication records specifically stated DOJ believed ROSEN to be an "aider, abettor, and/or co-conspirator" in the classified information leak (A VIOLATION OF THE ESPIONAGE ACT). The federal judge authorizing the search warrant agreed the government showed 'probable cause' and authorized the search warrant. Furthermore, the search warrant application made no mention of Rosen or the Press being investigated or potentially prosecuted for "disclosure" of [classified] material.

Read Holder's statement and read the DOJ/FBI search warrant application and quit spinning this into something its not.

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free thinker wrote:
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Media matters has no spin? ROFLMBO...thanks for the lunchtime chuckle there, little troll.
Indeed, Media Matters matters more than FAUX news and their spin. The article says what it says BECAUSE it is FACT, not bull $hit and spin that Faux News and their minions are putting out there.

Read it a$$-Hole. Read Holder's statement that the crazy right is spinning into PERJURY, and read the FBI search warrant application for Rosen's communication records and you may learn something.

ROSEN's phone records and emails were sought because it the DOJ believed he was an "aider, abettor, and/or co-conspirator" and that he was SOLICITING classified information from a person suspected of LEAKING national classified information. It is unlawful and a violation of the Espionage Act for anyone, including members of the press to solicit classified information.

What part of that don't you understand?

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