For you history buffs out here.

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Dr X

Byron Center, MI

#1 Jul 1, 2013
One hundred and fifty years ago at this very time, thousands of men from both the Union and Confederate armies met on a series of fields, roads, orchards and rocky outcrops in a place known as Gettysburg. More than fifty thousand men lost their lives.

Here is some interesting Civil War stuff:

http://napoleonlive.info/see-the-evidence/ses...

Since: Oct 12

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#2 Jul 1, 2013
Have visited Chickimauga and Andersonville over the years, but have alway's wanted to see Gettysburg....it somehow seem's even sadder, this year.....

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#3 Jul 1, 2013
Dr X wrote:
One hundred and fifty years ago at this very time, thousands of men from both the Union and Confederate armies met on a series of fields, roads, orchards and rocky outcrops in a place known as Gettysburg. More than fifty thousand men lost their lives.
Here is some interesting Civil War stuff:
http://napoleonlive.info/see-the-evidence/ses...
We moved to Virginia from Michigan 7 years ago and have visited Gettysburg several times along with several other Civil War Battlefields.

Reading a book is nothing like seeing it in person...

“Lost my mind”

Since: Apr 07

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#4 Jul 1, 2013
Blue, it is well worth the trip! We aren't able to make it this year, but will go again next year. It's one of our favorite places to go - especially with a teenager who is into Civil war history. There is so much history (and sadness) in that small down and surrounding area.

Thank you Dr. X for the reminder :)
Dr X

Byron Center, MI

#5 Jul 1, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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We moved to Virginia from Michigan 7 years ago and have visited Gettysburg several times along with several other Civil War Battlefields.
Reading a book is nothing like seeing it in person...
Just got back from there last Thursday. We did Gettysburg then Washington DC for a few days. We visited Ford's Theater which was really neat in a Civil War historical context. We did the Whole Lincoln experience from PA to DC. Too bad our modern-day presidents aren't more like him.
Dr X

Byron Center, MI

#6 Jul 1, 2013
neecer wrote:
Blue, it is well worth the trip! We aren't able to make it this year, but will go again next year. It's one of our favorite places to go - especially with a teenager who is into Civil war history. There is so much history (and sadness) in that small down and surrounding area.
Thank you Dr. X for the reminder :)
No problem. I think Gettysburg is a place that every American should visit at least once in their lifetime. Same goes for Washington DC. They were just starting some international festival on the Smithsonian property while we were there. Pretty cool. Bought a weaved basket for the wife.

Since: Oct 12

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#7 Jul 2, 2013
neecer wrote:
Blue, it is well worth the trip! We aren't able to make it this year, but will go again next year. It's one of our favorite places to go - especially with a teenager who is into Civil war history. There is so much history (and sadness) in that small down and surrounding area.
Thank you Dr. X for the reminder :)
Curiously, in my work, i alway's took vacation around the 4th, which screwed up going there...I've heard it's impressive, too bad so many of our young people aren't into history...The author, David McCullough spoke of it.....I'm afraid i might get verklempted if i was with one of the guides, hearing the stories.....
Oneal

Three Rivers, MI

#8 Jul 2, 2013
I wonder how many young people know who Frederick Douglas was, or Sojourner Truth, or Joshua Chamberlain - or even Robert Lee, Mead, Longstreet, etc... any of the people in the mid 1800's who played such pivotal roles.

I'm probably younger than anyone who frequents this site, but I grew up in a family that taught me to memorize Lincoln's Gettysburg address - and to understand what it meant, and what cost to our country the principles in that speech. I was always grateful for that.

I stood on Devil's Den and posed for a typical touristy picture my wife took. Looking through a Civil War book I ran across a photo of a soldier who'd been shot at that location and had fallen partially into a crevice. That exact spot was where I stood unknowingly for the picture. You could see the same cracks and formation in the boulders. It was eerie, ghostly and greatly humbling to think what happened at that precise spot.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#9 Jul 2, 2013
Dr X wrote:
<quoted text>Just got back from there last Thursday. We did Gettysburg then Washington DC for a few days. We visited Ford's Theater which was really neat in a Civil War historical context. We did the Whole Lincoln experience from PA to DC. Too bad our modern-day presidents aren't more like him.
So you got to see the Washington Monument in it's full dress scaffolding wrap-around?? It's under repair from the damages incurred during the earthquake.
As much as I don't like the horrible traffic here it has been wonderful living so close to all the things you experienced and much much more.
I agree, our modern day presidents should look more to their predecessors for guidance.
Glad you had a good experience.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Brighton, MI

#10 Jul 2, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
So you got to see the Washington Monument in it's full dress scaffolding wrap-around?? It's under repair from the damages incurred during the earthquake.
As much as I don't like the horrible traffic here it has been wonderful living so close to all the things you experienced and much much more.
I agree, our modern day presidents should look more to their predecessors for guidance.
Glad you had a good experience.
You could try the Benedict Arnold trail through New England up to Quebec City and see the battlements over the river.... Lots of history there....

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#11 Jul 2, 2013
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>You could try the Benedict Arnold trail through New England up to Quebec City and see the battlements over the river.... Lots of history there....
Road Trip!!!
I'm looking it up now...thanks for the suggestion.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Brighton, MI

#12 Jul 2, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
Road Trip!!!
I'm looking it up now...thanks for the suggestion.
Yeah, It will give you a good road trip. Amazing what men did back in the day..... Don't forget Forts in New York and Vermont....

“Lost my mind”

Since: Apr 07

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#13 Jul 2, 2013
Dr X wrote:
<quoted text>No problem. I think Gettysburg is a place that every American should visit at least once in their lifetime. Same goes for Washington DC. They were just starting some international festival on the Smithsonian property while we were there. Pretty cool. Bought a weaved basket for the wife.
At least once, but you won't be able to "capture" it all in one trip. We would have liked to go this year for the 150th anniversary, but the hubs graduated and then found himself employed (woot!) so we will go back next year - for our 3rd trip.:)

“Lost my mind”

Since: Apr 07

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#14 Jul 2, 2013
Oneal wrote:
I wonder how many young people know who Frederick Douglas was, or Sojourner Truth, or Joshua Chamberlain - or even Robert Lee, Mead, Longstreet, etc... any of the people in the mid 1800's who played such pivotal roles.
I'm probably younger than anyone who frequents this site, but I grew up in a family that taught me to memorize Lincoln's Gettysburg address - and to understand what it meant, and what cost to our country the principles in that speech. I was always grateful for that.
I stood on Devil's Den and posed for a typical touristy picture my wife took. Looking through a Civil War book I ran across a photo of a soldier who'd been shot at that location and had fallen partially into a crevice. That exact spot was where I stood unknowingly for the picture. You could see the same cracks and formation in the boulders. It was eerie, ghostly and greatly humbling to think what happened at that precise spot.
Or to stand at the top of Little Round Top and look down on Devil's Den. And the fact that they were in their winter wools for a July PA battle itself! I know last time we were there, they hit 102 for an actual high temp. I simply cannot imagine what they endured. And the whole cut off from coffee bit? Yeah, that would have been a deal breaker for me..(tongue in cheek of course)

“Lost my mind”

Since: Apr 07

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#15 Jul 2, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Curiously, in my work, i alway's took vacation around the 4th, which screwed up going there...I've heard it's impressive, too bad so many of our young people aren't into history...The author, David McCullough spoke of it.....I'm afraid i might get verklempted if i was with one of the guides, hearing the stories.....
Actually Blue, that is one of the best times to go. Yes, it's super busy and the hotels can be expensive, but the actually dates of the battle is July 1-3. If you can "book it" early enough you can find some good deals. And there are a couple of campgrounds in the area if you're into that sort of thing. Or even stay in an outlying town and drive in.:)

I know I'm blessed to have kiddos that are completely engrossed in history. It makes trips a lot of fun - and a learning experienced to boot!

Being a certified battlefield guide is my dream job. That is one job I know I could get up every day (even with the heat and the winters) and absolutely 100% love my job.:)
Judge Judy

Utica, MI

#16 Jul 2, 2013
Obama is just awful

Since: Oct 12

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#17 Jul 3, 2013
neecer wrote:
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Actually Blue, that is one of the best times to go. Yes, it's super busy and the hotels can be expensive, but the actually dates of the battle is July 1-3. If you can "book it" early enough you can find some good deals. And there are a couple of campgrounds in the area if you're into that sort of thing. Or even stay in an outlying town and drive in.:)
I know I'm blessed to have kiddos that are completely engrossed in history. It makes trips a lot of fun - and a learning experienced to boot!
Being a certified battlefield guide is my dream job. That is one job I know I could get up every day (even with the heat and the winters) and absolutely 100% love my job.:)
...We spoke last night about vacations.....We did California one year, most all of it....Redwood National Park is the best spot in America, i have ever been to. Almost pre-historic....with downed giants, ferns and misting backrounds....the scent is fantastic....Would love to be a guide there.....Also a park called, Olympic Game Preserve, in Sequim, Washington....Like Lion Country Safari, by me but much less tacky....At Olympic you drive around among elk, buffalo...they also have Grizzly Bears....amazing place....

“Lost my mind”

Since: Apr 07

be back later

#18 Jul 3, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>...We spoke last night about vacations.....We did California one year, most all of it....Redwood National Park is the best spot in America, i have ever been to. Almost pre-historic....with downed giants, ferns and misting backrounds....the scent is fantastic....Would love to be a guide there.....Also a park called, Olympic Game Preserve, in Sequim, Washington....Like Lion Country Safari, by me but much less tacky....At Olympic you drive around among elk, buffalo...they also have Grizzly Bears....amazing place....
That would be fun, but I'm not sure I could get the hubs and kids out west..:)

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#19 Jul 3, 2013
neecer wrote:
<quoted text>
At least once, but you won't be able to "capture" it all in one trip. We would have liked to go this year for the 150th anniversary, but the hubs graduated and then found himself employed (woot!) so we will go back next year - for our 3rd trip.:)
Hi Neecer...
That's the one nice thing about living in this area. Being close to so many Historical sites allows us to visit multiple times. It's amazing what new things we discover on each return trip.
But...when I retire in a few years...we're outta here!! It's just too conjested here and the cost of living is way too high. This area is consistantly in the top 2 or 3 for the worst traffic in the U.S.
We want to move back to a "little" town like Holland or Zeeland.

“Lost my mind”

Since: Apr 07

be back later

#20 Jul 3, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Neecer...
That's the one nice thing about living in this area. Being close to so many Historical sites allows us to visit multiple times. It's amazing what new things we discover on each return trip.
But...when I retire in a few years...we're outta here!! It's just too conjested here and the cost of living is way too high. This area is consistantly in the top 2 or 3 for the worst traffic in the U.S.
We want to move back to a "little" town like Holland or Zeeland.
Hi Wiggley!

That would be a bonus, but I would have to say we wouldn't live in a hugely populated area. I'm a country girl and prefer the smaller more quaint towns. Hell, I break out in a rash anytime we go to "the east side" (where the hubs is from and we go over regularly for visits with friends and our favorite distillery). I refuse to drive. Hubs just laughs at me... LOL!

To be honest? I'm sick of the snow. I'm sick of the cold. Hubs has arthritis and the cold hurts both of us and is simply not worth it. Sound place south and warmer would be great..:)

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