Should food stamps be like the WIC card
regularguy

Middleville, MI

#21 Jan 7, 2009
The Food Stamp program is run by the Dept of Agriculture and was designed to keep people with little or no income from getting malnutrition. If people are buying expensive foods they are cheating the system in some way.
Sheriff_Garrett

United States

#22 Jan 7, 2009
GrMomofFive wrote:
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I agree, not everyone receiving food assistance shops this way.
And with the ones that do, they are not doing themselves any favors. They might be "eating better" than the workers, but they aren't eating better for long.
When you've got a budget for a month and you blow that entire budget on one-maybe two weeks of food by buying expensive meals, well, you're going to find yourself pretty SOL for a couple of weeks.
What I've seen is a lot of baby-daddy and baby-mama living together. They all shop together and buy whatever they want, then pool their cards. I worked at Gordon Food Service for a time and those people wore FUBU and Echo and all kinds of expensive stuff, more expensivce than I had, and they bought steak, lobster, etc. and would drain one card then use the next card then the next and so on.
Alvin

Foley, AL

#23 Jan 7, 2009
Gentle Taz wrote:
It could very well be a case of no common sense, eating fancy foods the first part of the month and almost starving the rest of the month.
Agree, and that lack of common sense is probably a reason why they are in the position they are in now.
Johnny

Riverside, CA

#24 Jan 7, 2009
I was a retail grocery store manager and have two things to say about this:

1. Most likely if you seem them buying shrimp, crab legs, or high end steaks, they are reselling them. Also, keep an eye on them, they probably have more in their coats and purses.

2. But, if they are buying those foods for themself, that is their choice. We don't have a place to tell them what to buy or not (except for non-foods and alchohol). Even if we pay for the money with our taxes. They are still people and should be allowed to choose the foods they want to eat. They still have the same amount of money, so if they spend more on certain foods, guess what, they have less to spend on others. It isn't like they are told to buy a certain number of items and then try to find the most expensive, they have a set dollar limit on that card no matter what they purchase.
John M

Rockford, MI

#25 Jan 7, 2009
I have bigger problems with corporations asking the govt for billion dollar buyouts then having weekend retreats for their upper management(AIG) or for corporations that ask for bailouts and then pay a CEO 16million for 3 mos worth of so-called work.

Why is it we always bash the poor? Do we think they are less deserving of embezzeling the govt every now and then? Hell we say nothing when our politicians do it. Whose the first ones sent of to war? The poor. So damn quit bellyaching about poor people scams if you are not going to bellyache the same way about the rich using structured tax loopholes to cheat the govt. Lets see Mr. Madoff scams people for over 50 billion and he gets house arrest in his mansion. Billy Ray robs a convience store and is sent straight to jail. True American justice!
Single mom

Colorado Springs, CO

#26 Jan 7, 2009
I am a single mother and I work 40+ hours a week. I buy nothing I do not need. I also have a college degree. I do not do drugs or drink. I make just over 11.00 an hour and with a house payment, utilities, and gas for my car I am left with nothing. I am thankful for the food stamps I get. It is not alot.$158.00 a month to feed three people. I buy nothing that is not on sale and spend wisely. I plan meals that can be leftovers and also try to get as much fruit and veggies as I can.This said, it is hard to make it last to the end of the month. If you have been to the grocery store lately you know the prices are outrageous. I can not imagine buying filet anything or steak for that matter. Why would I when for a third of that price I can get two full dinners that will last 4 days.

I agree that people take advantage of the system, some always have and always will. It is the children in these houses that must suffer because in one week all those foodstamps are gone. What do they eat for the rest of the month? It is horrible that people do things like this. Not everyone does, and when you are in a position to need the help offered you should be thankful. I can not imagine telling my kids there is no food in the house and know I was given that money to buy food. It takes a sorry person to sell food stamps to buy alcohol or drugs. They deserve to be punished. If they were it would mean their stamps would be taken away, then what do those children eat? These are the people that need to be monitored, reported, and told what they can and can not buy!

With times as tough as they are for alot of people right now, this is insane! Many people who never needed help now do, and hopefully you are deserving and grateful. If not and you choose to cheat yourself and your family you are really only hurting yourself and your kids. Everyone will be judged one day and God help you if you sold your food stamps to get drunk or high!

Since: Nov 08

Grand Rapids, Michigan

#27 Jan 7, 2009
I worked at a gas station in Grand Rapids and on the 1st of the month we would have a line waiting at our ATM in the morning. People would check their balance and withdraw that much in cash. I know they did not use that money for food and who fed their kids the rest of the month? One girl told me she spent the money on what she wanted and went to food pantries to feed her family for the month.
Sad use for our money.
GrMomofFive

Haslett, MI

#28 Jan 8, 2009
jomit wrote:
I worked at a gas station in Grand Rapids and on the 1st of the month we would have a line waiting at our ATM in the morning. People would check their balance and withdraw that much in cash. I know they did not use that money for food and who fed their kids the rest of the month? One girl told me she spent the money on what she wanted and went to food pantries to feed her family for the month.
Sad use for our money.
What you're talking about is different than food stamps.

The Bridge card has both cash assistance and food assistance on it. Someone with food stamps CANNOT withdraw food stamp money as cash. They can only purchase non-taxable items with it.
steffi

Pueblo, CO

#29 Jan 8, 2009
JMR wrote:
I work at a supermarket and I see people buying crab legs,steaks, junk food,soda,prepackaged frozen dinners with thier Bridge card. Why not give them a list of what they can and cannot buy. I'am sick of seeing them eat better then I do, and I buy my food not the state.
OMG you wouldnt believe the crap my friend gets from this. Every kind of junk food. I remember in the summer seeing them in the frozen food area basically clearing out the ice cream section. I have not seen 1 healthy food brought from her. She and her kids are so overweight.
There should be a list of food you have to get from this. I dont think crab legs should be on the list. It is just ridiculous how people abuse this.

Since: Nov 08

Grand Rapids, Michigan

#30 Jan 8, 2009
GRMom, sorry, I don't qualify for anything so I don't know the systems I guess. A few years ago I asked for help but because as a single mom of 3, I made 8.00 hour and I could only get 33.00 a month. I told them to keep their money. Now even though I'm laid off and about out of unemployment and my husband works we can not get any help, except I get my child for my girls because he is not their father.

“love, loyalty, friendship”

Since: Sep 08

Dutchville

#31 Jan 9, 2009
After having been laid off for a while and a wait of many weeks (6) for an unemployment check, we finally got a bridge card. We'd been eating popcorn and ramen noodles for a few weeks, so yes: I went to Meijer and bought a bunch of good food. We had a roast for dinner the first night with fresh vegetables and actual desert. It was wonderful and very much needed, if only for moral support.

After that we just bought normal food. Then, when I found a part time job, they cut is down to $200 a month.
bieng nosy

Big Rapids, MI

#32 Jan 9, 2009
bridge cards.... I live in a small town and see these ppl with bridge cards buying pop, junk food,etc... but yet drive new cars,wear hollister, and designer clothes have there nails done and etc... Hell i work and can not even get the crap they have...
Jim B

Grand Rapids, MI

#33 Jan 9, 2009
Great point!
Ben wrote:
Most of those people (eating the fancy food) didn't need the money to start with, and that is why they are buying fancy food. If someone had to survive on that money(only money coming in for food) they probably couldn't eat that well.
disgusted

Maumee, OH

#34 Feb 4, 2009
I am on assistance and i hardly buy any junk for my household i buy nothing but things that have to cooked i may get cookies or something like that but that's because i have a three year old.I try to spend as responsible as possible and I still end up with no food at the end of the month I truly believe it has nothing to do with the way u spend the gov is just selfish I don't receive enough and I will be completely honest I have on occasion sold my stamps not because I didn't need them but simply because I needed the money even more to pay a bill can u imagine getting $336.00 a month and have to pay rent,lights,phone,hygiene products,household products, plus take care of you and your child's needs clothes,shoes etc.It's hard to manage a household on public assistance when u have no family or friends for support and the way the economy is in Ohio you cant seem to find a job anywhere so please if u haven't been in that position don't speak on it because it's a soar subject for some not every one was brought up with a silver spoon in their or even close to it there are people out here that have to depend on the gov believe it or not
crzy

Edwardsburg, MI

#35 Mar 2, 2009
i work for a wic office and i can tell you that most of my clients DO NOT need WIC. Again, they drive better cars, live in nice homes, go on vacations I could not afford. Thay state they are not married or living with a boyfriend. But how can all our clients live on $250 per week. It's a universal number that our client's give us! There is no followup to see if clients are lying. We have been told that we are not the "income"police! ARGH!
Sandy

AOL

#36 Mar 5, 2009
I've read some of your comments and some were valid. But you can't put everybody in the same basket. There are some people that really need food stamps. With all of the people being laid off their jobs and really losing their jobs their will be more people getting food stamps. Their are people who have paid into the system with their taxes and now they don't have a job. So if you haven't been in some of these people shoes don't dog them out. Some people just don't know how to shop economically. There are more people who really know how to spend then the one that just take advantage. Just thank God that you not in the line for the stamps. Enen the ones that have college degrees now days are in the line.
Thank God their is a program. Will you take a person in into your home and feed them? Will you take a family a bag of groceries so their family will have something to eat? Do you really think of these people when you sit down at you dinner table? So while you are complaining and really don't understand just remember it could be YOU!!!!!
Alvin

Grand Rapids, MI

#38 Mar 6, 2009
Sandy wrote:
I've read some of your comments and some were valid. But you can't put everybody in the same basket. There are some people that really need food stamps. With all of the people being laid off their jobs and really losing their jobs their will be more people getting food stamps. Their are people who have paid into the system with their taxes and now they don't have a job. So if you haven't been in some of these people shoes don't dog them out. Some people just don't know how to shop economically. There are more people who really know how to spend then the one that just take advantage. Just thank God that you not in the line for the stamps. Enen the ones that have college degrees now days are in the line.
Thank God their is a program. Will you take a person in into your home and feed them? Will you take a family a bag of groceries so their family will have something to eat? Do you really think of these people when you sit down at you dinner table? So while you are complaining and really don't understand just remember it could be YOU!!!!!
Sounds to me like you just might not be so anti-welfare---anti-socialism, and anti-tax as so many of your previous posts indicate. What am I missing here or do you decide who gets what, where and when.
clouds again

Caledonia, MI

#39 Mar 6, 2009
I work with a woman, whom her and her husband make Very Good money. Yet, just because their baby was born a premie, they were getting WIC. That is just not right.
Old Gray Haired Lady

Portage, MI

#40 Mar 6, 2009
Marti from Michigan wrote:
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NOT everyone shops this way. Don't judge until you are in these shoes.
You are right. I worked full time and had a part time job in the local grocery store. I saw both scenarios. Some people bought expensive food and then went to the service counter and used their check to buy lottery tickets, booze and tobacco. They wore only the best of clothes and drove the nicest cars. Then there were families who bought family packs of meat, 2# boxes of macaroni and spaghetti and sale items. Their clothes were worn, but clean. I never minded seeing these families use food stamps, but the ones who bought the steak, shrimp, etc. made my blood boil. I was working my a@@ off to raise my children and not get government assistance. At least with the Bridge Card, they can only buy food with their food stamps and not use one dollar paper food stamps to buy small items one at a time to get enough change to buy beer or cigarettes. When someone bought an item with food stamps and then brought it back for a refund, I would only give them food stamps back; not money.
Alvin

Grand Rapids, MI

#41 Mar 6, 2009
clouds again wrote:
I work with a woman, whom her and her husband make Very Good money. Yet, just because their baby was born a premie, they were getting WIC. That is just not right.
But they probably lied, how do we cut government agencies of funding and then complain that they aren't catching the liars.

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