Should food stamps be like the WIC card

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JMR

Shelbyville, MI

#1 Jan 6, 2009
I work at a supermarket and I see people buying crab legs,steaks, junk food,soda,prepackaged frozen dinners with thier Bridge card. Why not give them a list of what they can and cannot buy. I'am sick of seeing them eat better then I do, and I buy my food not the state.
Sheriff_Garrett

United States

#2 Jan 6, 2009
I have said this very thing for years. I understand people fall on hard times, but there is no incentive to get off of gov't assistance the way things currently are set up. If it's good enough for a pregnant woman and her baby, it's good enough for everyone.
uh oh

Byron Center, MI

#3 Jan 6, 2009
I worked in a grocery store for three years.

I earned $7.15 an hour.

People came through my lane buying chocolate dipped strawberries, filet mignon, bakery made cupcakes, artisan breads etc etc. and paid with their food stamps.

It about drove me crazy!!

My household could not afford such luxuries and both myself and my spouse were working.

Grrrrrrrrrr !!!
Kelli

Whitehall, MI

#4 Jan 6, 2009
I agree with all above post. I don't condone taking advantage of any government assisted program. I will say I feel better knowing these people regardless of their purchases were taking this food home for someone to eat. Not that all their purchases sound that wise. But better than selling them on a street corner for booze or drugs an their own needs. I suppose I might be making the assumption their feeding someone more than just themselves.

“Taz say Hi”

Since: Jan 08

Holland,MI

#5 Jan 6, 2009
It could very well be a case of no common sense, eating fancy foods the first part of the month and almost starving the rest of the month.
Ben

Troy, MI

#6 Jan 6, 2009
Most of those people (eating the fancy food) didn't need the money to start with, and that is why they are buying fancy food. If someone had to survive on that money(only money coming in for food) they probably couldn't eat that well.

“Simply Sassy”

Since: Nov 08

Grand Rapids, MI

#7 Jan 6, 2009
Here's one even better, I was absolutely shocked when my niece told me that some of the college kids get food stamps and then sell them, for 1/2 the value, so they can get money to buy booze for Greek parties! Now, I'm all for helping struggling college kids IF they are really trying to achieve something but what these kids are doing is so wrong and absolutely insane! Especially since there are people that are really in need. I would blow a gasket if I ever found out my son was doing something like that!
Just_My_Opinion

United States

#8 Jan 6, 2009
I think that if someone really needs food stamps and qualify for them, then fine. Hoever, I think there needs to be strict restrictions on what can be purchased. Infact, I'd rather they be able to buy toilet paper than soda and steaks. I know that kids like snacks, and in limited amounts, that's fine. It shows me that laziness is there, with all of the pre packaged foods and junk. If they cooked meals, they'd be farther ahead. If they are really hungry, they should be eating protien and fruits and veggies, things to help them set a good example for their children. I think in many cases, it is just a vicious cycle, take what you can get. I think there should be a requirement for recipients to have vocational trainging, attend college or something to help them become employable.
Wizzard

United States

#9 Jan 6, 2009
The Public Assistance Agency can only advise what people should and should not purchase, in the past the food stamp coupons were sold illegally for 50 cents on the dollar, the government went to plastic ATM cards to regulate the purchases, as a retailer they can only have their POS systems programmed to stop purchase of Booze and Tobacco products etc.

Your Employer can be fined and lose his or her rights to participate in this ATM program, and law enforcement can set up sting operation for abuse of the food card ONLY if wealfare fraud is suspected such as someone working in a Bingo Hall getting cash under the counter, and I do know for a fact that people get busted.

I am not sure if you wish to file a complaint but for michigan try http://www.michigan.gov I think the Attorney General may investigate wealfare fraud if there is any probablility but may not step in if they are buying shrimp or King Crab.

However there is places that do not accept the following

Food Cards

WIC Coupons

Sams Club is One and Costco is another.

both places require membership around fifty bucks.
JMR

Shelbyville, MI

#10 Jan 6, 2009
Mechelle_TO wrote:
Here's one even better, I was absolutely shocked when my niece told me that some of the college kids get food stamps and then sell them, for 1/2 the value, so they can get money to buy booze for Greek parties! Now, I'm all for helping struggling college kids IF they are really trying to achieve something but what these kids are doing is so wrong and absolutely insane! Especially since there are people that are really in need. I would blow a gasket if I ever found out my son was doing something like that!
And that's another thing. Why do college students need Bridge cards. When I went to school if you didn't have alot of money you lived on hot dogs and beans, or ramen noodles. Then went home on the weekends to get a care package from Mom.
JMR

Shelbyville, MI

#11 Jan 6, 2009
Gentle Taz wrote:
It could very well be a case of no common sense, eating fancy foods the first part of the month and almost starving the rest of the month.
Now their crying because the state splits their stamps up into two sets. 1st of the month and the 15th of the month.Now they need the state to tell them how to shop.

Since: Jul 08

United States

#12 Jan 6, 2009
JMR wrote:
<quoted text>And that's another thing. Why do college students need Bridge cards. When I went to school if you didn't have alot of money you lived on hot dogs and beans, or ramen noodles. Then went home on the weekends to get a care package from Mom.
Ummm, you try studying while surviving on easy-mac and ramen noodles. F that. My parents wouldn't even help me get financial aid so I could pay for school myself. What makes you think they would send me a care package or cook me a meal when I came home on the weekends to work. The difference between college kids getting a brige card and a 14 year old who just squirted out a kid, is the college student will most likely get off aid. The 14 year old will sit in the drug store waiting for her baby's sickle cell medication and try to figure out how much more money she will get if she has another kid.
JMR

Shelbyville, MI

#13 Jan 6, 2009
MCLVN wrote:
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Ummm, you try studying while surviving on easy-mac and ramen noodles. F that. My parents wouldn't even help me get financial aid so I could pay for school myself. What makes you think they would send me a care package or cook me a meal when I came home on the weekends to work. The difference between college kids getting a brige card and a 14 year old who just squirted out a kid, is the college student will most likely get off aid. The 14 year old will sit in the drug store waiting for her baby's sickle cell medication and try to figure out how much more money she will get if she has another kid.
Not the colege kids I wait on. These are the party tell you drop type. And yes there are some hard working students out there that need some help.

Since: Dec 08

United States

#14 Jan 6, 2009
The reason they buy the high end foods is for resale. Since they went to the card to stop the outright selling of the paper food stamps for .50 on the dollar. They buy steaks and seafood and then sell that for the same margin. I've personally seen Items being sold.

“O__o ?”

Since: May 08

Grandville

#15 Jan 6, 2009
uh oh wrote:
I worked in a grocery store for three years.
I earned $7.15 an hour.
People came through my lane buying chocolate dipped strawberries, filet mignon, bakery made cupcakes, artisan breads etc etc. and paid with their food stamps.
It about drove me crazy!!
My household could not afford such luxuries and both myself and my spouse were working.
Grrrrrrrrrr !!!
NOT everyone shops this way. Don't judge until you are in these shoes.

“O__o ?”

Since: May 08

Grandville

#16 Jan 6, 2009
JMR wrote:
<quoted text>Now their crying because the state splits their stamps up into two sets. 1st of the month and the 15th of the month.Now they need the state to tell them how to shop.
THAT is not happening........yet. It's in the works.
GrMomofFive

Haslett, MI

#17 Jan 7, 2009
Marti from Michigan wrote:
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NOT everyone shops this way. Don't judge until you are in these shoes.
I agree, not everyone receiving food assistance shops this way.

And with the ones that do, they are not doing themselves any favors. They might be "eating better" than the workers, but they aren't eating better for long.

When you've got a budget for a month and you blow that entire budget on one-maybe two weeks of food by buying expensive meals, well, you're going to find yourself pretty SOL for a couple of weeks.
GrMomofFive

Haslett, MI

#18 Jan 7, 2009
JMR wrote:
<quoted text>Now their crying because the state splits their stamps up into two sets. 1st of the month and the 15th of the month.Now they need the state to tell them how to shop.
I think this will be a good thing when it happens. How many people, before needing assistance, shop for an entire months worth of food at one time?

It's not uncommon for people who are use to buying what they want/need a week or two at a time when they were working to find themselves with budgeting problems when faced with a large lump sum to cover an entire months worth of food.

I don't think this problem makes a person "stupid" or "bad"... it's just not easy to learn to live with-in your means when your means use to be so much more.

When my family lost my husband's income of $40k+ a year, we had problems at first also. We were use to living a certain way.

Hind sight is always 20/20, and looking back we spent money stupidly when my husband was able to work, and most of the stupid spending was on food. Being as limited as we are now, we're still feeding our family but for about 60% less than we use to, it just took some work to figure out how.

Sometimes we'd like to kick ourselves in the rear because we could have saved away so much money with what we were spending on groceries.
george

Canton, OH

#19 Jan 7, 2009
my daughter makes a monthly menu and clips coupons before she shops. she doesn't recieve enough in food stamps to buy anything fancy or extras. there are smart ways to shop then there are the abusers.

cant the cashiers get the #'s off the reciept and the food stamp # and report this abuse to the state?
uh oh

Byron Center, MI

#20 Jan 7, 2009
Marti from Michigan wrote:
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NOT everyone shops this way. Don't judge until you are in these shoes.
Guess what? I WAS in these shoes.

Back in the early eighties, my spouse's company closed.

We had a second baby coming and no health insurance and no money.

We had to go on food stamps and thank God they were there.

Shopping for groceries took four hours because I shopped carefully.

I bought basic staples and bargain meats. I made sure we had plenty to eat and that it was nutritious and believe it or not-- NO filet mignon -- no chocolate dipped strawberries.

Don't judge till I'm in these shoes?

Maybe you are currently in these shoes and your shopping habits are atrocious.

Do you see yourself in these posts and feel offended?

Hmmmmmmm.....

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