Pat Robertson Longs For The Days When...

Pat Robertson Longs For The Days When Gays Were Stoned To Death

There are 588 comments on the Crooks and Liars story from Mar 27, 2014, titled Pat Robertson Longs For The Days When Gays Were Stoned To Death. In it, Crooks and Liars reports that:

Pat Robertson was waxing poetically on the 700 Club today about the golden days when gays were stoned to death.

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Really

Wyoming, MI

#111 Mar 30, 2014
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Reality check buttercup, more and more in this country gay people are being accepted and irrational hatred like yours is on the wane. We are being judged by the content of our character not on the content of your sad fantasies. People are realizing that it is bigots like you who have become unhinged here. It is why your side is losing now, frequently repeatedly and often. All you have left is to whine impotently or work on your coping skills. Your problems with our homosexuality, no longer our problem, so you don't need to share.
If you truly want to be judged on your character, why bring up your sexuality at all? Rather like young football player who announced he was gay and now wants everyone to "make it about football" instead of his sexuality. No one made it about his sexuality until he did.
Really

Wyoming, MI

#112 Mar 30, 2014
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
The only 3 commandments our Constitution parallel are murder, stealing and lying. Those are and have been basic laws of human society way before the introduction of the 10 commandments...think about it. Most civilized countries have similar laws and did not base them on the 10 commandments but based them on basic human societal fundamentals.
You said in a previous post "And the 10 Commandments are part of the moral compass that our nation as a nation of laws is based upon."
I'd disagree based on the First Amendment - "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion".
The First Amendment disallows the making of any law based on any religion. Note I said religion, I did not say or imply church law...that's another can of worms.
Also, again, humans have had a moral compass long before religion brought the 10 commandments into play and 7 of those pertain strictly to a religion.
Why did you leave the rest of the First Amendment off Wiggley? That has always puzzled me when people try to make a point with the First Amendment to support their position of no religion allowed and yet the rest of the First Amendment states, "or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" as it pertains to freedom of religion. It then goes on to talk about free speech. I will give you that there is an element in the Christian community that would love to silence those who disagree with them, however, there is also an element in the atheist community who feels the same way and to say that ALL Christians want the atheists silenced or ALL atheists want Christians silenced is wrong. My entire point has always been and will always be that the atheists appear to fear Christians. I don't understand it since no place in recorded history is there a record of the atheists or Non Christians throwing unbelievers to the lions or the gladiators or crucifying or stoning them. It would appear that the violence is perpetrated against the Christian community instead. I know that there are people who point to the Crusades, however, those were actually a religious war between the Muslims and the Christians and very little if anything at all to do with the atheists.
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#114 Mar 30, 2014
The gays are annoying wrote:
<quoted text>
The gays are very skilled at manufacturing outrage and taking offense to everything and everyone. Very unstable and volatile personalities. No wonder most normal people don't want to be around them.
I don't care whether they are around or not, to be honest. I don't have to agree with their lifestyle to respect their man-made legal right to it. Some gays I know are also the nicest people I know. They work, care, and tend to be very creative people. If they want to celebrate their right to marry their Nascar buddy, or call their boyfriend their wife, I can just chuckle and move on. I don't have to respect every single aspect of their lives. just like they don't have to mine.

If God considers homosexuality a sin, then He will ultimately judge. We ALL sin - every single one of us, and every single day. Who's to say being gay is any more of a sin than anything else? I just see a tremendous amount of hypocrisy in the vocal minority of the gay community is all - and it's too bad. They've suddenly become the very thing they protested against - and anyone who disagrees with them is just a "big ol' meanie-face!"

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Maryland

#115 Mar 30, 2014
Really wrote:
<quoted text>Why did you leave the rest of the First Amendment off Wiggley? That has always puzzled me when people try to make a point with the First Amendment to support their position of no religion allowed and yet the rest of the First Amendment states, "or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" as it pertains to freedom of religion. It then goes on to talk about free speech. I will give you that there is an element in the Christian community that would love to silence those who disagree with them, however, there is also an element in the atheist community who feels the same way and to say that ALL Christians want the atheists silenced or ALL atheists want Christians silenced is wrong. My entire point has always been and will always be that the atheists appear to fear Christians. I don't understand it since no place in recorded history is there a record of the atheists or Non Christians throwing unbelievers to the lions or the gladiators or crucifying or stoning them. It would appear that the violence is perpetrated against the Christian community instead. I know that there are people who point to the Crusades, however, those were actually a religious war between the Muslims and the Christians and very little if anything at all to do with the atheists.
I didn't exclude "or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" for any specific reason as you apparently wish or perceive. My point was and is the Constitution clearly says no religion or it's conventions (10 commandments) may be used as the basis for our laws which was your claim, not mine.
The freedom to worship or not is protected within certain constraints. You are correct that atheists have not perpetrated violence against christians or any other religion however history would support christians and other religions perpetrating violence against those who would dare to differ with their beliefs and even those who are accused of differing with their beliefs. One simple example would be the Salem witch trials/murders.
The "fear factor" is a religious cop out. No one fears the christain religion as some would have us to believe. Apparently the christian religion uses the fear factor as a front to try to force their beliefs on others as being legitimate and applicable as Constitutional Law rather than observing the First Amendment.
chance813

Channelview, TX

#116 Mar 30, 2014
Juicy Fruit wrote:
I think stoning is a bit extreme but I'd be all for them going back into the closet from whence they came.
A Greed!

Since: Apr 11

Los Angeles, CA

#117 Mar 30, 2014
Dr X wrote:
<quoted text>You obviously didn't understand what I said.
What did you say then? It's easy to misunderstand what someone posts.
Really

Wyoming, MI

#118 Mar 30, 2014
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't exclude "or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" for any specific reason as you apparently wish or perceive. My point was and is the Constitution clearly says no religion or it's conventions (10 commandments) may be used as the basis for our laws which was your claim, not mine.
The freedom to worship or not is protected within certain constraints. You are correct that atheists have not perpetrated violence against christians or any other religion however history would support christians and other religions perpetrating violence against those who would dare to differ with their beliefs and even those who are accused of differing with their beliefs. One simple example would be the Salem witch trials/murders.
The "fear factor" is a religious cop out. No one fears the christain religion as some would have us to believe. Apparently the christian religion uses the fear factor as a front to try to force their beliefs on others as being legitimate and applicable as Constitutional Law rather than observing the First Amendment.
The Salem witch trials was a group of people perpetrating fear on other people. It was started by the Puritans and carried out by others as well. To lay all those items merely at the feet of the religious people is disingenuous at best and bigotry at worst. And yes, there are atheists who fear the Christian religion just as there are members of the Christian religion who fear the atheists. The atheists have been running around for years claiming that the Christians want to turn the country into one that honors only one religion and that could not be further from the truth. All the Christians, including me, have ever wanted is to be allowed to express our faith without fear of being sued because we believe. And we truly have no desire to "force" our faith on anyone. I personally have never understood how discussing our faith is "forcing" it on anyone and I have yet to meet anyone who can explain it to me. You don't ridicule and talk hatred and I have my suspicions about why that is which I will keep to myself. Have a great Sunday afternoon and I hope your weekend has been good for you.

Since: Apr 11

Los Angeles, CA

#119 Mar 30, 2014
The gays are annoying wrote:
<quoted text>
The gays are very skilled at manufacturing outrage and taking offense to everything and everyone. Very unstable and volatile personalities. No wonder most normal people don't want to be around them.
You mean manufacturing outrage and taking offense to everything and everyone, like this WBC?

Since: Apr 11

Los Angeles, CA

#120 Mar 30, 2014
Shaniqua wrote:
<quoted text>
Look, if you want to get AIDS or other various STDs with your consenting partner, that is your business. I agree you should have every right to do that. Just don't expect the taxpayers to pay for your irresponsible behavior and don't do it in front of little children. It's just creepy and disgusting.
Rose's Law:
Morons, like Shaniqua, who have no real argument scream, "But what about the children!?".
Put up or STFU, fundie, link us to some gay people who say they want to have sex in front of children.
radell

Bloomfield Hills, MI

#122 Mar 30, 2014
Really wrote:
<quoted text>Yet again with "you don't understand", perhaps you would explain then what you meant by "poser"? And I didn't judge your heart and I put Christians in quotes because there are many who claim to be Christians but their actions belie that claim. Didn't say you were one, just said there are many. And no, I don't judge your heart and didn't judge you, just commented on your post. Do you expect everyone to agree with everything you say and do?
You're going to need to stop changing your story if you want a coherent reply. I will say this. I didn't put Christians in quotes because I was talking about actual Christians. I'll also say that poser refers to those who claim to be Christians but their actions belie that claim. Pat Robertson, with his "gospel of hate" falls squarely into that camp.
radell

Bloomfield Hills, MI

#123 Mar 30, 2014
Really wrote:
<quoted text>Which sin would that be? Be very careful...."judge not lest ye be judged" and "let those without sin cast the first stone".
Why don't you just come clean and say you agree with him? He's bastardizing the gospel of Jesus Christ. In many ways, and leading people astray. For that I renounce him, as I said in my first post. And I call on all Christians to do the same. Just read a few posts in this thread. That's the results you get when you give the crazies a bully pulpit. I don't pretend to judge whether Pat Robertson is just misguided or truly an agent of Satan, whether he'll end up in heaven. But his judgment day is going to be interesting, I know that.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#125 Mar 30, 2014
Shaniqua wrote:
<quoted text>
Look, if you want to get AIDS or other various STDs with your consenting partner, that is your business. I agree you should have every right to do that. Just don't expect the taxpayers to pay for your irresponsible behavior and don't do it in front of little children. It's just creepy and disgusting.
Ahem, what makes you think I don't pay taxes? I had a good job and now own rental property. If I had all the money I paid in taxes every year, oh, lord.

Maybe in your house they make love in front of children. I certainly do NOT, I like my shutters SHUT when I am in bed, alone or with ....umm....

Also, I did not have a gaggle of screaming brats who were sick more often than well, burning through medical bills procedures morning noon and night.

PLUS, I was a state employee for 24 years. I have their very good Blue Cross insurance for LIFE. Anyway, I've gotten to this great old(er) age and am healthy as a horse. You won't find ANYTHING wrong with me, Cletus. I plan on living long and well, if for no other reason than to piss you off.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#126 Mar 30, 2014
Oneal wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't care whether they are around or not, to be honest. I don't have to agree with their lifestyle to respect their man-made legal right to it. Some gays I know are also the nicest people I know. They work, care, and tend to be very creative people. If they want to celebrate their right to marry their Nascar buddy, or call their boyfriend their wife, I can just chuckle and move on. I don't have to respect every single aspect of their lives. just like they don't have to mine.
If God considers homosexuality a sin, then He will ultimately judge. We ALL sin - every single one of us, and every single day. Who's to say being gay is any more of a sin than anything else? I just see a tremendous amount of hypocrisy in the vocal minority of the gay community is all - and it's too bad. They've suddenly become the very thing they protested against - and anyone who disagrees with them is just a "big ol' meanie-face!"
Well, look at YOU. A Christian who actually understands the religion he or she practices. Looks like when you attend church, you actually pay attention and learn, you don't just show up to model a new outfit and hit Sunday brunch before the crowds show up!

Isn't it odd that the self righteous claim to follow the bible word for word, but have NO qualms about attending Sunday brunch and dooming their poor waiter or waitress to eternity in hell fire due to having to work on Sunday? As an ex waiter who worked many a Sunday brunch, I KNOW I am going to heaven, for I already worked in hell...Sunday brunch for folks with too many bloody Mary's or mimosas under their belt.

God bless you.

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Maryland

#127 Mar 30, 2014
Really wrote:
<quoted text>The Salem witch trials was a group of people perpetrating fear on other people. It was started by the Puritans and carried out by others as well. To lay all those items merely at the feet of the religious people is disingenuous at best and bigotry at worst. And yes, there are atheists who fear the Christian religion just as there are members of the Christian religion who fear the atheists. The atheists have been running around for years claiming that the Christians want to turn the country into one that honors only one religion and that could not be further from the truth. All the Christians, including me, have ever wanted is to be allowed to express our faith without fear of being sued because we believe. And we truly have no desire to "force" our faith on anyone. I personally have never understood how discussing our faith is "forcing" it on anyone and I have yet to meet anyone who can explain it to me. You don't ridicule and talk hatred and I have my suspicions about why that is which I will keep to myself. Have a great Sunday afternoon and I hope your weekend has been good for you.
Why is it that when you as a christian disagree with a faction or sect of your religion that clearly bases it's beliefs on the very same bible as you, are not being disingenuous or bigots but someone that disagrees with your religion in general is?? Please don't try to say there is only one christian religion...you should know better than that. Islam has the same problem.

Why do you interpret disagreement as fear??

As far as your right to worship and believe as yu do, I have no problem with that...as long as every religion and non-religion can put up a display along side of the typical christian manger scene at christmas and all other such displays. That would include letting all religions have a place in public schools so as to teach all aspects of all religious beliefs...and on and on.
I hope you get my point...Equal Rights for all...

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Maryland

#128 Mar 30, 2014
Really wrote:
<quoted text>The Salem witch trials was a group of people perpetrating fear on other people. It was started by the Puritans and carried out by others as well. To lay all those items merely at the feet of the religious people is disingenuous at best and bigotry at worst. And yes, there are atheists who fear the Christian religion just as there are members of the Christian religion who fear the atheists. The atheists have been running around for years claiming that the Christians want to turn the country into one that honors only one religion and that could not be further from the truth. All the Christians, including me, have ever wanted is to be allowed to express our faith without fear of being sued because we believe. And we truly have no desire to "force" our faith on anyone. I personally have never understood how discussing our faith is "forcing" it on anyone and I have yet to meet anyone who can explain it to me. You don't ridicule and talk hatred and I have my suspicions about why that is which I will keep to myself. Have a great Sunday afternoon and I hope your weekend has been good for you.
OOPS...forgot to add...we've had snow here today...yuk...
Hope you are having a nice weekend as well...

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Maryland

#129 Mar 30, 2014
Mainstream christians wish to be dis-associated with the extreme sects of their own religion but will blindly bundle all non-christains into either a non-recognized religion such as islam or clump the rest into a satan led atheist group of heathens that could not possibly have any morals or ethics.
Does anyone else see the irony here??

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#130 Mar 30, 2014
Really wrote:
If you truly want to be judged on your character, why bring up your sexuality at all?
We're not bringing our sexuality up, you are. We're talking about our lives when we are fully clothed and in the upright position.
Really wrote:
Rather like young football player who announced he was gay and now wants everyone to "make it about football" instead of his sexuality. No one made it about his sexuality until he did.
Sweetie, he simply told the media what they were going to find out about anyways. He said he was gay, nothing more, the fantasies about sex are your own doing.
Dr X

Grandville, MI

#133 Mar 30, 2014
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
What did you say then? It's easy to misunderstand what someone posts.
What I meant by "state" was the federal government, not any particular state. You said I could leave the state if I wanted to as in; "I don't like the policies of my state therefore I wish to leave it." I was trying to say that socialism/communism (that I believe you were interpreting in a biblical context) is not tolerable unless the people under those systems grant the authority to live under such a system by their own free will and not coerced and or forced by others. Since you live in the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia, you should be used to the concept.
pipedream

San Francisco, CA

#135 Mar 30, 2014
Absolutely wrote:
<quoted text>
Big D!ck Rose's Law:
Queers should not be aloud around children, let alone, raise them.
lol You still trolling the I-196 byways hoping to find stranded kids you must be getting desperate - what an a-hole your are?
pipedream

San Francisco, CA

#136 Mar 30, 2014
Aloud? lol

The pervert you are - loud and clear lol

Charter school? yes?

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