West Michigan residents fleeing for warm destinations

Jan 15, 2014 Full story: WZZM-TV Grand Rapids 96

From the recent polar vortex to the pending snow accumulation, West Michigan residents are fleeing the frigid weather for warmer destinations.

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Who

Wyoming, MI

#1 Jan 16, 2014
What!?!?!

And leave all this global warming behind?

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#2 Jan 16, 2014
Who wrote:
What!?!?!
And leave all this global warming behind?
Wierd...M-Live calls it another "polar vortex" event...
http://www.mlive.com/weather/index.ssf/2014/0...

...and here they are calling it an Alberta Clipper...
http://www.wjla.com/blogs/weather/2014/01/d-c...

They are both a part of the same weather pattern so which is it??

On a side note, I thought the correct term would be Climate Change, not global warming.
Climate change as I understand it, leads to extreme high and low temps.

That being said, it looks like it's been really cold there and apparently is going to get colder again...stay warm!!!
Butch

Wyoming, MI

#3 Jan 16, 2014
Who

Wyoming, MI

#4 Jan 16, 2014
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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Wierd...M-Live calls it another "polar vortex" event...
http://www.mlive.com/weather/index.ssf/2014/0...
...and here they are calling it an Alberta Clipper...
http://www.wjla.com/blogs/weather/2014/01/d-c...
They are both a part of the same weather pattern so which is it??
On a side note, I thought the correct term would be Climate Change, not global warming.
Climate change as I understand it, leads to extreme high and low temps.
That being said, it looks like it's been really cold there and apparently is going to get colder again...stay warm!!!
Correction: People are on to the LIE of global warming, so now the liberal econuts are trying to change the name.

That's all liberals are capable of - LYING.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#5 Jan 17, 2014
Who wrote:
<quoted text>
Correction: People are on to the LIE of global warming, so now the liberal econuts are trying to change the name.
That's all liberals are capable of - LYING.
I did say global warming is not the correct term with regard to our climate.
Climate change is a completely different topic and much more relevant.
Really

Grand Rapids, MI

#6 Jan 17, 2014
Climate change is cyclical and always has been. Nothing different is going on here. It has been a while since we had a winter this cold, but the snowfall is normal. It is Michigan for crying out loud!:)
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#7 Jan 17, 2014
Who wrote:
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Correction: People are on to the LIE of global warming, so now the liberal econuts are trying to change the name.
That's all liberals are capable of - LYING.
What do you know about climate change/Global warming? Nothing. You strike me as someone too stupid to understand or interpret the data showing that world-wide human induced greenhouse gas emissions are causing damage to the environment and contributing to climate change. The second thing that shows your stupidity is your claim that its all a liberal hoax.
Greed Rapids

Bellevue, MI

#8 Jan 17, 2014
Yeah, the WEST Michigan Dutch CRC are all going to either Gulf Shores, AL or west coast of FL. They all go to the same places like a special flock of bird species. I think they like those places because it's fits their budget. Can you say follow the crowd?

I have must say, this is my last Christmas time here, the SAME Dutch pastries every neighbor brought over to our house is getting old. Wish we had some Italians so I could get their cookies instead :( Guess I'd have to drive 2 hour east or west for that.

I do enjoy the Italian girls and their nookie oops I mean cookies
Who

Wyoming, MI

#9 Jan 17, 2014
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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I did say global warming is not the correct term with regard to our climate.
Climate change is a completely different topic and much more relevant.
The climate has been "changing" since the beginning of the planet.

If it ever stops changing then that's the time to panic.

The econuts are just trying to make the ignorant their cash cows by feeding them a bunch of bullshit and coming up with new buzzwords for John Q Public to use.

The newest buzzword for instance,'polar vortex', or in other words "WINTER", meant to scare the vast majority of stupid idiots in our society, or in other words, pretty much the entire population.

You econuts aren't fooling me, that shit may work on some ignorant college kid with a head full of mush, but I remember colder winters than this, I also remember warmer winters than this and I also remember your "global cooling" scare tactics.

Let's not forget Y2K, yet more scare tactics by so-called "scientists". You fooled a lot of idiots but that didn't fool me either, I went to supermarkets and laughed at those whom you were able to terrify, and then laughed again when these same idiots tried to get refunds for all the water and food they thought they would need for Y2K - The End of the World.

It's quite a racket you eco-terrorists got going, scare the ignorant with a created, phony catastrophe and then pick their pockets selling them the "cure".

Nothing but snake oil salesmen.
Who

Wyoming, MI

#10 Jan 17, 2014
pipedream wrote:
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What do you know about climate change/Global warming? Nothing. You strike me as someone too stupid to understand or interpret the data showing that world-wide human induced greenhouse gas emissions are causing damage to the environment and contributing to climate change. The second thing that shows your stupidity is your claim that its all a liberal hoax.
By "greenhouse gas" I assume you mean "carbon dioxide", which IS NOT a greenhouse gas. It never has been, and never will be.

Hypothetically speaking, I'll play along and let's pretend "global warming" is real, what's wrong with the planet warming? What's wrong with a lush, plant filled environment?

You idiots should have stuck with the "global cooling" BS, now that's something to fear. Nothing grows in the cold.

So you idiots are actually arrogant enough to think you can control the climate? I would like to see you try.

But use your own money for your unrealistic goals, and leave us taxpayers alone. But that's really what it's all about isn't it?

Control.

Control of the masses and the extortion of our tax dollars.

I can promise you this, if the ecoterrorists ever get their cash cows, i.e.; the taxpayers, to foot the bill for their schemes, "gorebull warming" or "climate change" or "the polar vortex" or whatever the newest buzzword will be, GW WILL NEVER END - the econuts will constantly find new excuses and new schemes to keep the gravy train rolling, because just like you claim I don't know what I'm talking about right now; that will be the same thing that will keep the money rolling in. Because only the "scientists" will know how much more money it'll take to "end gorebull warming".

So tell me, did you ecoterrorist buddies who got themselves stranded in the ICE, finally get themselves free?

I would really like to know how they managed this feat if there's as little ice as they claim. Hard to get frozen in something they claimed doesn't exist.

You keep being an ignorant drone though.
Really

Grand Rapids, MI

#11 Jan 18, 2014
Greed Rapids wrote:
Yeah, the WEST Michigan Dutch CRC are all going to either Gulf Shores, AL or west coast of FL. They all go to the same places like a special flock of bird species. I think they like those places because it's fits their budget. Can you say follow the crowd?
I have must say, this is my last Christmas time here, the SAME Dutch pastries every neighbor brought over to our house is getting old. Wish we had some Italians so I could get their cookies instead :( Guess I'd have to drive 2 hour east or west for that.
I do enjoy the Italian girls and their nookie oops I mean cookies
Try moving to the north side of town. The polish and italians live on the north side. Too bad you are so bigoted against one particular group.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#12 Jan 20, 2014
Who wrote:
<quoted text>
The climate has been "changing" since the beginning of the planet.
If it ever stops changing then that's the time to panic.
The econuts are just trying to make the ignorant their cash cows by feeding them a bunch of bullshit and coming up with new buzzwords for John Q Public to use.
The newest buzzword for instance,'polar vortex', or in other words "WINTER", meant to scare the vast majority of stupid idiots in our society, or in other words, pretty much the entire population.
You econuts aren't fooling me, that shit may work on some ignorant college kid with a head full of mush, but I remember colder winters than this, I also remember warmer winters than this and I also remember your "global cooling" scare tactics.
Let's not forget Y2K, yet more scare tactics by so-called "scientists". You fooled a lot of idiots but that didn't fool me either, I went to supermarkets and laughed at those whom you were able to terrify, and then laughed again when these same idiots tried to get refunds for all the water and food they thought they would need for Y2K - The End of the World.
It's quite a racket you eco-terrorists got going, scare the ignorant with a created, phony catastrophe and then pick their pockets selling them the "cure".
Nothing but snake oil salesmen.
I'm glad you are at least aware that climate changes have occurred in the past.
Your references to me being an "econut" are unfounded.
The term polar vortex has been around for a long time so it's nothing new...maybe to you but not to others.
I also remember Michigan winters that were more severe than others. There was one in the late 50's or early 60's and again in 1977 and '78. We also had a really bad winter here a few years ago. We've also had some really hot summers along with mild summers. Big deal.
Y2K...actually not nearly as serious financially, I feel, to people as your buddy Harold Camping and his end of the world crap. At least people didn't max out their credit cards with no intention of paying them back or sell everything they had. If they bought a few too many groceries and water they could still eat and drink it over time.
Now to the crux of the climate change issue. The changes that have happened in the past were caused by natural things like volcanoes, meteor impacts and such. There may be more reasons but that's not my point here.
I have since childhood wondered how we humans could contribute so many polluting things to our atmosphere and land and water and not be affecting our earth and it's climate.
Note that none of the climate changes in the past had contributing factors like coal burning, industry, cars and trucks, freon air conditioners, deforestation of the rain forests, thousands if not millions of huge landfills, dumping waste into the oceans, man made chemicals and their waste byproducts, and many more.
From what I have read we really don't have to worry too much right now but if we don't get some of these things under control soon by 2100 our children and grandchildren stand to face some unknown issues that may be irreversible.
Now, are there money grabbing scams already regarding this?? Of course there are. Remember your buddy Harold Camping?? Same thing. We need to look past those pricks and take a look at the reality of what is happening and put the Harold Camping types in jail where they belong. Without cooler heads prevailing and common sense being the guide we allow those types of scammers to prevail instead of proving them to be scammers and that there are common sense things we can all do to prevent the inevitable.

Have a good day...

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#13 Jan 20, 2014
Who wrote:
<quoted text>
By "greenhouse gas" I assume you mean "carbon dioxide", which IS NOT a greenhouse gas. It never has been, and never will be.
Hypothetically speaking, I'll play along and let's pretend "global warming" is real, what's wrong with the planet warming? What's wrong with a lush, plant filled environment?
You idiots should have stuck with the "global cooling" BS, now that's something to fear. Nothing grows in the cold.
So you idiots are actually arrogant enough to think you can control the climate? I would like to see you try.
But use your own money for your unrealistic goals, and leave us taxpayers alone. But that's really what it's all about isn't it?
Control.
Control of the masses and the extortion of our tax dollars.
I can promise you this, if the ecoterrorists ever get their cash cows, i.e.; the taxpayers, to foot the bill for their schemes, "gorebull warming" or "climate change" or "the polar vortex" or whatever the newest buzzword will be, GW WILL NEVER END - the econuts will constantly find new excuses and new schemes to keep the gravy train rolling, because just like you claim I don't know what I'm talking about right now; that will be the same thing that will keep the money rolling in. Because only the "scientists" will know how much more money it'll take to "end gorebull warming".
So tell me, did you ecoterrorist buddies who got themselves stranded in the ICE, finally get themselves free?
I would really like to know how they managed this feat if there's as little ice as they claim. Hard to get frozen in something they claimed doesn't exist.
You keep being an ignorant drone though.
It appears you have no idea what you are talking about with regards to carbon dioxide and I doubt you are a scientist...
http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/ghgemissions...
http://www.livescience.com/37821-greenhouse-g...
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-reference...
Who

Wyoming, MI

#14 Jan 20, 2014
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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It appears you have no idea what you are talking about with regards to carbon dioxide and I doubt you are a scientist...
http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/ghgemissions...
http://www.livescience.com/37821-greenhouse-g...
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-reference...
So let's see the degree showing that you're a "scientist" jackass.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#15 Jan 20, 2014
Who wrote:
<quoted text>
So let's see the degree showing that you're a "scientist" jackass.
Never said I was but I presented scientific proof that your statement was incorrect.
That makes you the jackass...

Epic fail...
Who

Wyoming, MI

#16 Jan 20, 2014
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
Never said I was but I presented scientific proof that your statement was incorrect.
That makes you the jackass...
Epic fail...
So you think that by posting 3 links to obviously biased websites, that "proves" that GW exists?

For real?

You're a bigger idiot that I originally gave you credit for.

Think about it dumbass, all this organizations get grant money from the government, therefore it's in their best interest to push the "green" agenda.

Otherwise, NO MORE GRANT MONEY!

And you and I both know what happens to those who even so much as hint that GW might be a hoax, the above posts from the pipster and those posted in other forums on this subject are a testament to that.

Anybody who doesn't agree with liberal's OPINION, and that's all it is, are considered ignorant and uneducated by you holier-than-thou liberals whose only goal in life is to control everybody and everything. It's the same tactic employed on those who don't agree with Obastard, their immediately called racists.

Are you honestly that stupid?
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#17 Jan 21, 2014
Fortunately...... Global Warming is only be measured by the current day's temperature in West Michigan.

If anyone were to look at the record warm weather in Australia, the heat and drought currently plaguing California, or the receding of glaciers in Greenland could lead to confusion by the typical patriot.

Only the foolish Greenies would even consider including the entire globe or long term weather trends in measuring this phenomenon.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#18 Jan 21, 2014
Who wrote:
<quoted text>
So you think that by posting 3 links to obviously biased websites, that "proves" that GW exists?
For real?
You're a bigger idiot that I originally gave you credit for.
Think about it dumbass, all this organizations get grant money from the government, therefore it's in their best interest to push the "green" agenda.
Otherwise, NO MORE GRANT MONEY!
And you and I both know what happens to those who even so much as hint that GW might be a hoax, the above posts from the pipster and those posted in other forums on this subject are a testament to that.
Anybody who doesn't agree with liberal's OPINION, and that's all it is, are considered ignorant and uneducated by you holier-than-thou liberals whose only goal in life is to control everybody and everything. It's the same tactic employed on those who don't agree with Obastard, their immediately called racists.
Are you honestly that stupid?
And you provide no scientific based website to refute my scientific based websites.
So you have no evidence for anyone to review to back your unsubstantiated claims.
Got it...Thanks!!!!
It's still an epic fail...

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#19 Jan 21, 2014
Bob wrote:
Fortunately...... Global Warming is only be measured by the current day's temperature in West Michigan.
If anyone were to look at the record warm weather in Australia, the heat and drought currently plaguing California, or the receding of glaciers in Greenland could lead to confusion by the typical patriot.
Only the foolish Greenies would even consider including the entire globe or long term weather trends in measuring this phenomenon.
Why are so many people caught up in the incorrect term of Global Warming??
Who

Wyoming, MI

#20 Jan 21, 2014
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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Why are so many people caught up in the incorrect term of Global Warming??
Why did you econuts coin the term and then use it every chance you got?

It's you idiots fault it's called 'global warming', it's more like 'gorebull warming'.

For hating capitalism, ecoterrorists like al mediawhore sure doesn't mind cashing in on 'gorebull warming'.

As for me not posting links, what good would it do? Anything I would post is automatically considered ignorant by virtue that you don't agree with it.

Arguing with a liberal is a meaningless endeavor because you all suffer from the mania of liberalism.

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