Phil

Oxford, MI

#84 Apr 29, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>I wasn't referring to Syria and my response was to your comment about North Korea.
Try again...
I was, and when I said North Korea would be watching I was not referring to actions with them in the past. Just that they are watching what we say and how we respond to Syria. Try again...
Phil

Oxford, MI

#85 Apr 29, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
Forget all the who said what, and when.....Why do you feel, we should be the country to solely respond to the conflict in Syria?
Nobody said that. Well, Obama did come very close and I could see how some could take it that way.
Really

Wyoming, MI

#86 Apr 29, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
Forget all the who said what, and when.....Why do you feel, we should be the country to solely respond to the conflict in Syria?
Perhaps because the "leader of the free world" is the one who made the "red line" statement?

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#87 Apr 29, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps because the "leader of the free world" is the one who made the "red line" statement?
....poor cognition.....
Really

Wyoming, MI

#88 Apr 29, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>....poor cognition.....
poor ability to follow along.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#89 Apr 30, 2013
Phil wrote:
<quoted text>
I was, and when I said North Korea would be watching I was not referring to actions with them in the past. Just that they are watching what we say and how we respond to Syria. Try again...
Let me help you...
The Korea situation is recorded, repeated, documented,
history...please read the article I posted. There is nothing Korea will or can learn from any reaction or threat to Syria or any other country.
Speaking of Syria...don't you realize any action taken by our Country would be a no-win situation??
My point was and is, just what do you propose we do?? Please include your thoughts on the consequences.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#90 Apr 30, 2013
Phil wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobody said that. Well, Obama did come very close and I could see how some could take it that way.
Again, I will use the Historical example of Korea.
Nothing new here.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#91 Apr 30, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps because the "leader of the free world" is the one who made the "red line" statement?
So just what could said "leader" do to satisify your thirst for more blood??
Phil

Oxford, MI

#92 Apr 30, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>Let me help you...
The Korea situation is recorded, repeated, documented,
history...please read the article I posted. There is nothing Korea will or can learn from any reaction or threat to Syria or any other country.
Speaking of Syria...don't you realize any action taken by our Country would be a no-win situation??
My point was and is, just what do you propose we do?? Please include your thoughts on the consequences.
You must smoke a lot of dope. Anyway Obama is the one that laid down the red line and threatened them. They crossed that line. It does not matter what I say should be done. I think Obama should have done something over a year ago. As a matter in fact many in congress said the same thing over a year ago. As time goes on it is getting more difficult that is true. It shows the incompetence and inexperience of this administration. You must be saying Obama was issuing empty threats and that is ok to do. You must also be saying that the US can maintain a strategy of empty threats and/or empty promises and that will have no effect on our relationships with other countries. Your right pothead. If I lie to my buddy why would I ever lie to you? That is inconceivable. If I steal from my friend, why would you ever think I would steal from you?
You are of the lowly educated for sure. How do you find your way through the rain without drowning?
Really

Wyoming, MI

#93 Apr 30, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
So just what could said "leader" do to satisify your thirst for more blood??
I don't have a "thirst for more blood" Wiggley. I am merely quoting what Obama threatened. Bullies are like children. If you threaten and don't follow through, you embolden them to continue to be bullies. Of course, if your perception is that we are the bullies, as a lot of the progressives feel, then that's your take on it. It's time to stand up to the bullies and let them know their behavior is not going to be rewarded. Merely threatening and then saying "that's not what I meant" will merely embolden our enemies and make our allies decide that we are unreliable.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#94 May 1, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>I don't have a "thirst for more blood" Wiggley. I am merely quoting what Obama threatened. Bullies are like children. If you threaten and don't follow through, you embolden them to continue to be bullies. Of course, if your perception is that we are the bullies, as a lot of the progressives feel, then that's your take on it. It's time to stand up to the bullies and let them know their behavior is not going to be rewarded. Merely threatening and then saying "that's not what I meant" will merely embolden our enemies and make our allies decide that we are unreliable.
OK so answer my question...just what do you propose he should do?
You do realize that no matter what any President would/could do will never satisify the opposing party and even some within the same party.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#95 May 1, 2013
Phil wrote:
<quoted text>
You must smoke a lot of dope. Anyway Obama is the one that laid down the red line and threatened them. They crossed that line. It does not matter what I say should be done. I think Obama should have done something over a year ago. As a matter in fact many in congress said the same thing over a year ago. As time goes on it is getting more difficult that is true. It shows the incompetence and inexperience of this administration. You must be saying Obama was issuing empty threats and that is ok to do. You must also be saying that the US can maintain a strategy of empty threats and/or empty promises and that will have no effect on our relationships with other countries. Your right pothead. If I lie to my buddy why would I ever lie to you? That is inconceivable. If I steal from my friend, why would you ever think I would steal from you?
You are of the lowly educated for sure. How do you find your way through the rain without drowning?
I've never smoked any dope. I did smoke some cannibus years ago in place of taking Vicoden. The Vicoden scared me way more than a couple of puffs and the cannibus helped me get through a painful back injury.
As far as "the red line" being crossed...just what should we do genius?? Be specific...

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#96 May 1, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>I don't have a "thirst for more blood" Wiggley. I am merely quoting what Obama threatened. Bullies are like children. If you threaten and don't follow through, you embolden them to continue to be bullies. Of course, if your perception is that we are the bullies, as a lot of the progressives feel, then that's your take on it. It's time to stand up to the bullies and let them know their behavior is not going to be rewarded. Merely threatening and then saying "that's not what I meant" will merely embolden our enemies and make our allies decide that we are unreliable.
One more thought...if I am not mistaken, the same sources used to claim Iraq had WMD's are making similar claims about Syria. If I were Obama I'd be showing constraint as we all know how many WMD's were actually ever found in Iraq.
Kelp

United States

#97 May 1, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>I don't have a "thirst for more blood" Wiggley. I am merely quoting what Obama threatened. Bullies are like children. If you threaten and don't follow through, you embolden them to continue to be bullies. Of course, if your perception is that we are the bullies, as a lot of the progressives feel, then that's your take on it. It's time to stand up to the bullies and let them know their behavior is not going to be rewarded. Merely threatening and then saying "that's not what I meant" will merely embolden our enemies and make our allies decide that we are unreliable.
OK genius as the other poster has asked -- what should the Pres do? Nothing or do you have some other course of action regarding Syria's possible use of chemical weapons? Its been U.S. policy for decades to draw a line in the sand with any nation that would use chemical or any other weapon of mass destruction. O is not threatening anyone. He is simply re-itering long held U.S. policy to friend & foe. So lets see it genius. Whay should he have said or done? Invaded Syria based on half baked intel or lies?
setrlvr

Lake Odessa, MI

#98 May 1, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>I don't have a "thirst for more blood" Wiggley. I am merely quoting what Obama threatened. Bullies are like children. If you threaten and don't follow through, you embolden them to continue to be bullies. Of course, if your perception is that we are the bullies, as a lot of the progressives feel, then that's your take on it. It's time to stand up to the bullies and let them know their behavior is not going to be rewarded. Merely threatening and then saying "that's not what I meant" will merely embolden our enemies and make our allies decide that we are unreliable.
Exactly agree! O drew the line, which, as we've found out about him and foreign affairs, is just him throwing his jump rope on the playground.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#99 May 1, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
OK so answer my question...just what do you propose he should do?
You do realize that no matter what any President would/could do will never satisify the opposing party and even some within the same party.
He should feign disgust and shortage of patience, even threaten.....Surround ourselves with condemnation by the UN, NATO, Russia and any other powerful country, that has a relationship with Syria......We should NEVER allow another ground war in the middle east.......
Rob

United States

#100 May 1, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>I've never smoked any dope. I did smoke some cannibus years ago in place of taking Vicoden. The Vicoden scared me way more than a couple of puffs and the cannibus helped me get through a painful back injury.
As far as "the red line" being crossed...just what should we do genius?? Be specific...
That is not a pain killer and if you consider it one you are a fool because it sucks at being one. You choose something that is not watched over, controlled, and regulated over something that is. It does not scare you that anyone could lace it with anything and you would not know it until it was to late. Why try to explain anything to you? You have demonstrated that you are total fool with no common sense at all. You have been told repeatedly over and over by different posters that Obama is the one that but the red line there. He is the one that should have had a plan to back up his words. You got your answer several times and you keep asking over and over. Wow are you ever dumb!
Really

Wyoming, MI

#101 May 1, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
OK so answer my question...just what do you propose he should do?
You do realize that no matter what any President would/could do will never satisify the opposing party and even some within the same party.
He should propose tough sanctions and let our military enforce them. We should arm the rebels and let them take the corrupt leadership out.(Not that the rebels aren't probably corrupt themselves since that is prevalent in that part of the world). But to not do anything or take any action is like threatening a child and not following through, and we both have seen the results of that in the children of today.
Really

Wyoming, MI

#102 May 1, 2013
Kelp wrote:
<quoted text>
OK genius as the other poster has asked -- what should the Pres do? Nothing or do you have some other course of action regarding Syria's possible use of chemical weapons? Its been U.S. policy for decades to draw a line in the sand with any nation that would use chemical or any other weapon of mass destruction. O is not threatening anyone. He is simply re-itering long held U.S. policy to friend & foe. So lets see it genius. Whay should he have said or done? Invaded Syria based on half baked intel or lies?
Unlike you Kelpster, I have a job and a life and Topix isn't it. I answered Wriggley because he asked respectfully. You? You can take a hike.
Rob

United States

#103 May 1, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>He should propose tough sanctions and let our military enforce them. We should arm the rebels and let them take the corrupt leadership out.(Not that the rebels aren't probably corrupt themselves since that is prevalent in that part of the world). But to not do anything or take any action is like threatening a child and not following through, and we both have seen the results of that in the children of today.
That is all true but Obama should have made some effort early on. Instead he ignored it and focused on Libya. It would have been a lot easier to deal with in the beginning. We may have even persuaded that piece of sh!t dictator to play nice. Now anything we do will basically have to do with throwing him out of power. No doubt, I agree Obama has made this more difficult then if he would have moved early on. At least we were able to buy that turd off. What about the next dictator? BTW I am totally against buying these leaders off. It only postpones the inevitable.

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