GM CEO softens opposition to bankruptcy

GM CEO softens opposition to bankruptcy

There are 117 comments on the WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan story from Apr 5, 2009, titled GM CEO softens opposition to bankruptcy. In it, WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan reports that:

General Motors Corp. is softening its opposition to bankruptcy reorganization a little more.

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Wally Walker

Grand Rapids, MI

#82 Apr 7, 2009
Break the Unions!

Lets get on with the mess!

“Infinitely Interesting”

Since: Jan 09

Kalamazoo, MI

#83 Apr 7, 2009
Union All The Way wrote:
<quoted text>
"Its just that I have personally noticed the difference in earnings among many Big 3 employees vs others doing the same job somewhere else"
How true. And now jump to Mexico, China and see what your job pays there. I'm sure there are a few HR people that make more and less than you in the states. You personally noticed.....so what. The great state of Michigan...the auto capital of the world...is being destroyed because of mismanagement and greed.
WHen I said "vs somewhere else" I meant, at another company, not out of the country.

When I said that I "personally noticed" it was because I was speaking from a personal experience directly related to this topic. I didn't want to imply anything for anyone else.

When you mention "the auto capital being destroyed because of mismanagement and greed," I relate this to be the same thing I just said. Mismanagement and greed.... and people act upset or surprised that things are happening the way they are.

Union All The Way

“So what!!”

Since: Apr 08

Lakeview, Mi.

#84 Apr 7, 2009
Schnozzy wrote:
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WHen I said "vs somewhere else" I meant, at another company, not out of the country.
When I said that I "personally noticed" it was because I was speaking from a personal experience directly related to this topic. I didn't want to imply anything for anyone else.
When you mention "the auto capital being destroyed because of mismanagement and greed," I relate this to be the same thing I just said. Mismanagement and greed.... and people act upset or surprised that things are happening the way they are.
But average joe/jill gets dumped on.

Union All The Way

“So what!!”

Since: Apr 08

Lakeview, Mi.

#85 Apr 7, 2009
Gordon wrote:
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Thanks for the link hopefully it wonÂ’t come to that.
I hear that!
This is BS

Deerfield, IL

#86 Apr 7, 2009
GM should NOT have been bailed out and should go banktrupt to avoid the high Union labor contracts they stupidly agreed too over the last 40 years. This all started with RB SMITH and the bean-counters that followed. The only "BEANS" they were concerned about were the beans they could put in their pockets while in office knowing that the contracts they signed for labor would some day destroy the company. I just with that SOB were still here to see his distruction. My poor dad is going to lose his pension because of these idiots.

Union All The Way

“So what!!”

Since: Apr 08

Lakeview, Mi.

#87 Apr 7, 2009
This is BS wrote:
GM should NOT have been bailed out and should go banktrupt to avoid the high Union labor contracts they stupidly agreed too over the last 40 years. This all started with RB SMITH and the bean-counters that followed. The only "BEANS" they were concerned about were the beans they could put in their pockets while in office knowing that the contracts they signed for labor would some day destroy the company. I just with that SOB were still here to see his distruction. My poor dad is going to lose his pension because of these idiots.
GM should NOT have been bailed out and should go banktrupt to avoid the high Union labor contracts they stupidly agreed too over the last 40 years.

Glad I'm not your dad.
napoleon holliman

Grand Rapids, MI

#88 Apr 8, 2009
These big bounues started with GM Rodger smith in the 80's and the union been paying the price.
tom

Middleville, MI

#89 Apr 8, 2009
Union All The Way wrote:
<quoted text>
If anyone needed a beer it's you Tom.
probably. but I'm right.

Since: Nov 07

Littleton, CO

#90 Apr 8, 2009
There ia a good article in todays Bloomberg.com on what will happen to the pensions when GM goes into Bankruptcy. Lower bottom of the page.

Union All The Way

“So what!!”

Since: Apr 08

Lakeview, Mi.

#91 Apr 8, 2009
Mad Taxpayer wrote:
There ia a good article in todays Bloomberg.com on what will happen to the pensions when GM goes into Bankruptcy. Lower bottom of the page.
Thanks for the link. I just would like to replace one word,(will) with may, just so some elderly don't panic.

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#92 Apr 8, 2009
Union All The Way wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for the link. I just would like to replace one word,(will) with may, just so some elderly don't panic.
I hate to see GM employees lose their retirement.
But, There are alot more of us who lost it than the people from GM.
I lost mine!, and I dont blame the union or anything for that, I get sick of hearing the union crying about it!
The UAW did not cause the situation we are in!

Union All The Way

“So what!!”

Since: Apr 08

Lakeview, Mi.

#93 Apr 8, 2009
Gville Jim wrote:
<quoted text>
I hate to see GM employees lose their retirement.
But, There are alot more of us who lost it than the people from GM.
I lost mine!, and I dont blame the union or anything for that, I get sick of hearing the union crying about it!
The UAW did not cause the situation we are in!
Sorry to hear you lost your pension. Steelcase?
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

United States

#94 Apr 8, 2009
I am planting a garden. Stock piling food.....

Union All The Way

“So what!!”

Since: Apr 08

Lakeview, Mi.

#95 Apr 8, 2009
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
I am planting a garden. Stock piling food.....
And your reason would be???

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#96 Apr 8, 2009
Union All The Way wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry to hear you lost your pension. Steelcase?
No, a supplier to both GM and Steelcase, and many others.
Our company went belly up, because our customers did,
It's a viciouse circle,'
We did alot for suppliers to GM and alot of companies that support them.
Probably alot more to companies that support GM,
So thats why I kinda worry that if GM goes bankrupt, it will have a Major effect on our customers.
But then, I got let go after 25 years, so, I guess It's allready happening!

Union All The Way

“So what!!”

Since: Apr 08

Lakeview, Mi.

#97 Apr 8, 2009
Gville Jim wrote:
<quoted text>
No, a supplier to both GM and Steelcase, and many others.
Our company went belly up, because our customers did,
It's a viciouse circle,'
We did alot for suppliers to GM and alot of companies that support them.
Probably alot more to companies that support GM,
So thats why I kinda worry that if GM goes bankrupt, it will have a Major effect on our customers.
But then, I got let go after 25 years, so, I guess It's allready happening!
25 years..........dammmnnn.
Tired of the BS

Grand Rapids, MI

#98 Apr 8, 2009
Union All The Way wrote:
<quoted text>
So you watched the dock people and surmized everyone in the plant did squat? How many assembly lines did you observe in action? Would you consider people assembling power steering pumps at a rate of 1 every 3.5 seconds for 12 hrs. just pushing a button and "doing nothing"? Or truck fenders spitting out at a rate of 80 a minute and being inspected, loaded "doing nothing"?
Sorry, bit I have to agree with the others, too. I have a brother-in-law who works at the former Hydramatic plant in the suburbs of Detroit. He spent years on the Job Bank, being paid full shop rate (somewhere around $20-something an hour) to sit in a room and read sci-fi books.

I worked at an American Axle plant and watched scores of people who stood at machines, babysitting them.

I also worked at a stamping plant, where the automatic press operators routinely slept while the forklift drivers picked up container after container of parts. On many an occasion, the press would run scrap for an entire shift - sometimes over 6000 parts - because nobody cared to check the situation hourly or more.

I've watched union-protected men tell their supervisor to **** themselves because they didn't want to do something that "wasn't their job" and nothing could be done about it. I've seen grievances filed for a non-union person moving a skid of boxes so an assembly line could reach them better.

The unions were created with good intentions, but all good intentions have the ability to be abused. We are seeing the fruits of that abuse now. It's time to prune the dead wood and get back to working together.

(And FYI, I am a small machine shop owner who operates by the philosophy that if you treat your workers well, they become a loyal part of the company.)
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

United States

#99 Apr 9, 2009
Union All The Way wrote:
<quoted text>
And your reason would be???
I don't think the ride is over in this country.
Old Rocker

Attica, OH

#100 Apr 9, 2009
Tired of the BS wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, bit I have to agree with the others, too. I have a brother-in-law who works at the former Hydramatic plant in the suburbs of Detroit. He spent years on the Job Bank, being paid full shop rate (somewhere around $20-something an hour) to sit in a room and read sci-fi books.
I worked at an American Axle plant and watched scores of people who stood at machines, babysitting them.
I also worked at a stamping plant, where the automatic press operators routinely slept while the forklift drivers picked up container after container of parts. On many an occasion, the press would run scrap for an entire shift - sometimes over 6000 parts - because nobody cared to check the situation hourly or more.
I've watched union-protected men tell their supervisor to **** themselves because they didn't want to do something that "wasn't their job" and nothing could be done about it. I've seen grievances filed for a non-union person moving a skid of boxes so an assembly line could reach them better.
The unions were created with good intentions, but all good intentions have the ability to be abused. We are seeing the fruits of that abuse now. It's time to prune the dead wood and get back to working together.
(And FYI, I am a small machine shop owner who operates by the philosophy that if you treat your workers well, they become a loyal part of the company.)
Your last sentence says it all.

Union All The Way

“So what!!”

Since: Apr 08

Lakeview, Mi.

#101 Apr 9, 2009
Tired of the BS wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, bit I have to agree with the others, too. I have a brother-in-law who works at the former Hydramatic plant in the suburbs of Detroit. He spent years on the Job Bank, being paid full shop rate (somewhere around $20-something an hour) to sit in a room and read sci-fi books.
I worked at an American Axle plant and watched scores of people who stood at machines, babysitting them.
I also worked at a stamping plant, where the automatic press operators routinely slept while the forklift drivers picked up container after container of parts. On many an occasion, the press would run scrap for an entire shift - sometimes over 6000 parts - because nobody cared to check the situation hourly or more.
I've watched union-protected men tell their supervisor to **** themselves because they didn't want to do something that "wasn't their job" and nothing could be done about it. I've seen grievances filed for a non-union person moving a skid of boxes so an assembly line could reach them better.
The unions were created with good intentions, but all good intentions have the ability to be abused. We are seeing the fruits of that abuse now. It's time to prune the dead wood and get back to working together.
(And FYI, I am a small machine shop owner who operates by the philosophy that if you treat your workers well, they become a loyal part of the company.)
Based on your last sentence I would enjoy working for you as I have seen some of what you describe and no way are my work habits in any way like the above. The not my job part used to really irk me cause if there was a $5.00 bill on the floor they would pick it up not being their job.

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