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Sandy

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#61 Dec 26, 2009
KzooSteve wrote:
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Sandy,
You are right, I am too young to remember those days. I think it sounds great. I think Americans work too many hours as is. My question is, were the stores closed because it was the law, or were they closed because it was their choice?
There were ordinances in certain counties and townships that mandated that the businesses be closed. I don't honestly remember if it was a "law" so much as an ordinance that was changed via the business petitioning the various boards. But, the law has been in effect for as long as I can remember that you may not purchase alcohol until after noon on Sunday. That law has been challenged, if I recall, and that challenge did not succeed.
I guess my question to you is this...if you are truly upset at the Christmas holiday, do you close for the Jewish holidays? I once worked for a woman who took the Jewish Holidays off and the other holidays as well. She got paid for both as well and threatened to fire me when I refused to work on Sunday. When I informed her she could not fire me for refusing to work Sunday, she backed down, but our working relationship was never the same.
It would seem to me that you would close for the Jewish holidays to observe them, am I in error?

Since: Jun 08

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#62 Dec 26, 2009
I remember those days, Family Fare used to be Sy's market and they were one of the last grocery stores to be open on Sunday. As a child, you couldn't find a store open. You couldn't find a theater open either.

IMO I believe they were closed more for religious reasons though vs time to spend with family. The Sabbath began at sundown on Saturday night. Times changed, and it became more of a convenience for many to be open on Sunday. Just my opionion, but that was how it was viewed from anyone I knew back then.
Sandy wrote:
<quoted text>No, you are not wrong. And you sound as if you are too young to remember when all businesses were closed on Sunday. I remember when all businesses were closed on Sunday...need groceries? Get them Monday thru Saturday. Need gas? Better fill up Monday thru Saturday..and I even knew some businesses that closed at 6 PM on Saturday evening so they could have family time. I also remember when Meijer was one of the first to stay open on Sunday and the flap that happened when they did that. Are you saying that you want to go back to those times? Sounds good to me!

“Lost my mind”

Since: Apr 07

be back later

#64 Dec 26, 2009
KzooSteve wrote:
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Neecer, than maybe the law should be that no business is allowed to be open on December 25th. As I said in my last post, I went and saw a movie on Christmas Day and people were working. Are you upset about that, or do you only care about business owner's that own Bars and restaurants?
I also believe that gas stations were open. Maybe they should be forced to shut down too. If so, I hope you don't plan to drive anywhere for the holidays. And if you do, you better not be going far, or you better have an electric vehicle you can recharge when you get there.
Just because you allow the sale of alcohol doesn't mean that businesses would choose to open. If a business owner wants to close down on any day of the year for any reason that is their right. No one is prohibiting or discouraging anyone from celebrating Christmas.
AT one time - at least in GR, you couldn't even find a gas station open on Christmas day.

Ah, but when you want a business to cater to you, that means they would be basically 'forced' to have staff there to serve you and take care of you. That means staff that is then away from their families on a holiday. Having worked residential care for many years, I am very familiar with that concept. And that wasn't a business that was open on the holidays either.

If you have a problem with Michigan State Law also take it up with the feds. It is considered a federal holiday as well - no postal services, government services, etc are available to you on Christmas Day.

“If ya can't say somethin' nice”

Since: Feb 08

Woodlands

#65 Dec 27, 2009
KCGR wrote:
I remember those days, Family Fare used to be Sy's market and they were one of the last grocery stores to be open on Sunday. As a child, you couldn't find a store open. You couldn't find a theater open either.
IMO I believe they were closed more for religious reasons though vs time to spend with family. The Sabbath began at sundown on Saturday night. Times changed, and it became more of a convenience for many to be open on Sunday. Just my opionion, but that was how it was viewed from anyone I knew back then.
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No no no... some of us prefer to shop after 6 pm... in fact the later the better, less people blocking the aisles and less commotion. Much easier to take the time to really check out what I am buying before I take it home.
Bentley

Rockford, MI

#66 Dec 27, 2009
on the fly wrote:
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No no no... some of us prefer to shop after 6 pm... in fact the later the better, less people blocking the aisles and less commotion. Much easier to take the time to really check out what I am buying before I take it home.
There are alot less people in the middle of the night. I've gone with a friend, in and out that is how nice it is!

Since: Jun 08

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#67 Dec 27, 2009
I don't have a problem with shopping after 6 pm, and I was thrilled when Family Fare decided to open on Sunday. I was just pointing out how it was when I grew up.
on the fly wrote:
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No no no... some of us prefer to shop after 6 pm... in fact the later the better, less people blocking the aisles and less commotion. Much easier to take the time to really check out what I am buying before I take it home.
proud atheist

Duvall, WA

#68 Jan 1, 2010
I have wondered for several years as to why I couldn't buy beer on Dec. 25 just because the day is based off of the biggest fairy tale ever created. I think it violates my constitutional rights. But being a person who works with the angry grumpy public, I am relieved to have one guaranteed day away from the insane "holiday" shoppers. Does that make me a hypocrite? probably. Growing up surrounded by the religious ones, I learned early that I had to hide my disbeliefs or be preached at. One day, I realized that it wasn't fair that I was forced to listen to these people shove their beliefs down my throat and when I tried to express my opinion, I was shunned! I respect the right of everyone to have their beliefs, I really do. Why is it that everyone else cannot respect people's rights to their disbeliefs? And now I'm rambling. Sorry!

“Pig-O-Riffic!”

Since: Nov 08

United States

#69 Jan 3, 2010
Local and state laws don't violate the Constitution. Look up the 10th Amendment for further information.

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