GVSUs Berezik arrested in cop scuffle

GVSUs Berezik arrested in cop scuffle

There are 231 comments on the WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan story from Nov 24, 2008, titled GVSUs Berezik arrested in cop scuffle. In it, WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan reports that:

Grand Valley State University running back James Berezik has been suspended indefinitely following an arrest over the weekend.

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real american

United States

#44 Nov 25, 2008
4 Justice wrote:
The cop lost his flashlight, now Berezik is going to be charged with it? I know how the courts and cops like to make money, but this is a total joke. If the officer didn't have his equipment secured, he should be flipping the bill. Luckily it wasn't his gun, though you know it would have been found in 5 minutes.
All that will happen in this case, and you watch, it will be nothing but fines going to the courts. All he did was being a drunk fool that screwed up, yet the media destroyed his future now. Hope everyone is happy that is involved in this.
I agree, Its all about the money, And the fashlight, that's so assnine, Makes you wonder about the sysytem, I bet none of them were angels when they were his age, The system is so screwed up today. who think the guy shot one of the cops./someone.
HeadHunter6

United States

#45 Nov 25, 2008
chatter wrote:
This is a strike against GV football. They teach the kids to be violent. The coaches and staff should share responsibility for promoting violent behavior. This isn't the first time they have let these kids down by not training the kids properly.
Wrong. Football sports teach discipline and teamwork. Not to mention the threat of a redshirt forces them to concentrate on their academics as well. Rarely do you hear of any negative reports involving FB players.
real american

United States

#46 Nov 25, 2008
I wonder what ever happened to that guy a goverment official/ i think!that was arrested for dui/ awhile ago. and the other guy that threw up on himself,.I wonder if there carrers and future are down the toilet. PROBABLY NOT!.We the people need to do something about this unfairness, seems if your not someone of major importence, your nobody. but if you are every hing seems to get covered up with a apology.B.S.
Lesson 101

Denver, CO

#47 Nov 25, 2008
John Q Public wrote:
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They are different in the fact that they are held on private property. Get in an accident on apartment property and the cops wont show up, but be a 19 year old with beer on your breathe and they're on you like white on rice.
John, the difference between an accident and a alcohol offense is that getting in a accident on private property is not in itself a crime. Going by your theory, never call the police when you have somthing stolen from your home, because that too is private property.
Teacher

United States

#48 Nov 25, 2008
real american wrote:
I wonder what ever happened to that guy a goverment official/ i think!that was arrested for dui/ awhile ago. and the other guy that threw up on himself,.I wonder if there carrers and future are down the toilet. PROBABLY NOT!.We the people need to do something about this unfairness, seems if your not someone of major importence, your nobody. but if you are every hing seems to get covered up with a apology.B.S.
Your post is difficult to follow. Please purchase some self improvement material for you lack of english and grammar skills.
John M

Rockford, MI

#49 Nov 25, 2008
GR Pete wrote:
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I saw the video from a few weeks ago and it looks like more than just extra cops. It looked like they were knocking on doors and randomly stopping individuals. A little advice:
1. If they come to the door do not open it unless they have a warrant, no matter what they tell you, let them knock it down.
2. It is none of their business where you have been, where you are going or what you have drank. Do not answer any questions. ID yourself, give them your ID if you have it and SHUT THE F UP.
3. Never, ever, ever take the PBT. There is no penalty for not taking it if you are not driving. If you are driving it is just a civil infraction.
4. Don't run and fight with the cops. Always plead NOT GUILTY at arraignment and get an attorney.
First time in agreement with Pete! We are making progress on here!lol
John M

Rockford, MI

#50 Nov 25, 2008
just kill me wrote:
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right! personally,i think its a dumb,drunk kid mistake...fine him,a bit of community service,embarrass him a bit and get over it..i dont condone what he did,but theres no sense in jumping on the felony bandwagon and messing up the kids life over a dopey mistake..and to all you judgemental types...i bet you all or your kids would n e v e r do anything like that!!but of course the media will create a false sence of outrage and beat it into the ground..
I would agree on your point if he wouldn't have run andd then assaulted an officer but then you know it is on him.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

United States

#51 Nov 25, 2008
It seems to me that OCSD operates these targeted enforcement zones around GVSU unlike any other county in the State. You don't get this type of coordinated activity from any other dept around the State. It is like they need something to do.
It takes all kinds

Grand Rapids, MI

#52 Nov 25, 2008
GR Pete wrote:
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3. Never, ever, ever take the PBT. There is no penalty for not taking it if you are not driving. If you are driving it is just a civil infraction.
You are not correct on this one Pete.

1st the PBT is NOT admissible in court so to NOT take it is stupid if your driving. It only becomes admissible if at trial you bring it up and defense attorney almost never do. By taking a test that is not admissible anyway saves yourself a few bucks and gives you an idea of where you are in terms of BAC for the next test at the jail. 2nd is that if you are a minor they are required if asked and there is a penalty for not taking the test. 3rd is that the Michigan Appellate courts ruled a few years ago that a person older than 17 but younger than 21 can not have "possession" once the alcohol has entered the body. This ruling came about from a 19 year who went to Canada and drank,legal age in Canada is 19, but came back to Michigan and as a passenger was asked to take a PBT which showed a BAC and was issued a ticket for MIP. the court stated that once the alcohol entered the body you have no way to have "possession" of he alcohol because you lose the ability to exercise effective control of the alcohol.

Lastly, always go to trial because the cops need the overtime money for the holiday's and since it comes out of the defendants pocket through increased fees, knock yourselves out at trial. Oh, this also makes for a much greener holiday season for the trail lawyers as they get paid by the hour ($200+/hr)to argue your case which, when you look at the stats, are likely to lose anyway.

Since: Nov 08

Grand Haven, MI

#53 Nov 25, 2008
Mom of 1 wrote:
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I certainly hope my kid isn't running around punching cops. If a person attacked you would you call it a "dumb mistake?"
thats what everyone hopes,but once in awhile,kids get out of control...but slapping a felony on a 19 year old that will effect him the rest of his life doesnt seem to make sense to me...yep,he slugged a cop,no excuse for that..1000 hours of community service oughta gentle him down a bit!and no sports until its done!..and i also gotta give the cop credit that ran that kid down...good job there speedy!!maybe gvsu can use the officer as the replacement player they are gonna need!

Since: Sep 08

Allegan, MI

#54 Nov 25, 2008
HeadHunter6 wrote:
I have participated in approximately eight sweeps starting several years ago. I was initially shocked at the level of alcohol abuse present at the off campus apartments. If your in doubt, I suggest you walk through the dozen or so off campus apartment parking lots after a home game, you will be shocked as well.
We usually consist of a dozen officers in two or four man teams. The teams generally choose which parking lots to patrol. The kids are warned prior and this year it was highlighted on the news while a reporter tagged along.
GR Petes disdain for the police is clear. While he believes the police are violating individuals rights we are not, as demonstrated in the court and motion hearings that followed.
Finding intoxicated minors while on foot patrol is like shooting fish in a barrel, you just can't miss. My partners and I walk past dozens of apartments during these patrol and see obvious minors consuming inside apartments. They see us, get scared and act like a deer in the headlights. Guess what? we let them be. We know college kids will drink and there are enough of them falling down drunk in the lots and vehicles to contend with. We want to send a message, if you going to consume as a minor, keep it inside and low key.
The effect of the patrols are evident. At the start of each school year there are large groups in the parking lots with various beer drinking games set up. I'm talking about large tables stocked with beer and ect. If beer pong was an olympic sport, the kids at GV would take the gold. After a few patrols, the kids take it inside and the complex become a little more peaceful.
The kids who actually go to school to study actually thank us for giving them an environment where they can study! Fact: GVSU had more "sweep" alcohol arrests than MSU! Unless you seen these parking lots full of drunk kids you wouldn't believe it. I hope some former/current student confirms this.
As far as the star football player, it wouldn't be fair for me to comment on the case at this point but I can say out of several hundred kids cited, not one of them put an officer to the ground with a blow to the face.
I would not be shocked, its a college, its student off campus student housing, students drink before, during and after football games. What I am shocked at is that this is still illegal. It is ridiculous that 18 year olds can't drink legally. Yeah if they get behind the wheel bust em, but if they are standing around in a private parking lot on game day partying, so what.

How do you tell a 20 year old from a 21 year old? What do you do if you try to stop someone and they just keep going? What do you do if they refuse to talk to you, since legally they do not have to talk to you? I am not sure they even have to id themselves unless you have more than just a hunch that they might be under 21? They don't have to take a PBT w/o a warrant, what are you telling them about those rights, the truth? There are plenty of constitutional law questions about these "sweeps." Just the term "sweep" implies unconstitutional activity.

If they could sober up long enough the students should form a student branch of the ACLU. They should send out teams to video these sweeps. They should circulate flyers to students telling them their rights concerning stops, search and seizure and interrogation. They shoud contact Cooley Law School and get law students to provide them with free legal counsel.

Since: Oct 08

Holland

#55 Nov 25, 2008
It takes all kinds wrote:
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You are not correct on this one Pete.
1st the PBT is NOT admissible in court so to NOT take it is stupid if your driving. It only becomes admissible if at trial you bring it up and defense attorney almost never do. By taking a test that is not admissible anyway saves yourself a few bucks and gives you an idea of where you are in terms of BAC for the next test at the jail. 2nd is that if you are a minor they are required if asked and there is a penalty for not taking the test. 3rd is that the Michigan Appellate courts ruled a few years ago that a person older than 17 but younger than 21 can not have "possession" once the alcohol has entered the body. This ruling came about from a 19 year who went to Canada and drank,legal age in Canada is 19, but came back to Michigan and as a passenger was asked to take a PBT which showed a BAC and was issued a ticket for MIP. the court stated that once the alcohol entered the body you have no way to have "possession" of he alcohol because you lose the ability to exercise effective control of the alcohol.
Lastly, always go to trial because the cops need the overtime money for the holiday's and since it comes out of the defendants pocket through increased fees, knock yourselves out at trial. Oh, this also makes for a much greener holiday season for the trail lawyers as they get paid by the hour ($200+/hr)to argue your case which, when you look at the stats, are likely to lose anyway.
I presume you don't have a Juris Doctorate degree. People should avoid this free advice, he is wrong on almost every point. There is no longer a penalty for refusal while not driving a car. In honesty, we don't need to carry a PBT for these kids. They are usually that intoxicated or we see them with beer in hand.
Steve

Kalamazoo, MI

#56 Nov 25, 2008
First off, dumb decision to run. Secondly, MIP's are a joke and should be thrown in the gutter. Welcome to college, there's beer, gover it. To all those people with the "he's an idiot" rants, look what brought this on in the first place, totolitarian police. Notice how they just knock on doors? There wasn't anything in the article about a fight at the party, or people being out of control. Nope. Just booze. Effing Ottawa County. Alcohol sweeps at a college campus are like looking for water from a boat. It's EVERYWHERE! Are they going to drag people to chuch next? "Come on son, it't time for you to get good with the Lawd!" Sad...
Scott Berger

Holland, MI

#58 Nov 25, 2008
just a mom wrote:
yeah, I thought the whole flashlight deal was a little oof too. Like the kid is going to steal a flashlight running away from the cops or on his way to jail. Fair warning to to all you minors, DONT GET CAUGHT IN OTTAWA COUNTY! They will get you everytime and the courts in this county are a [email protected]!
I think it all goes back to bad parenting. My parents taught me right from wrong and I never ran from the cops or fought with them, in fact, I always cooperated because my time spent with them would be shorter. I can see if my mother was in trouble with the law a lot I would probably think that breaking the law was right too.

Since: Sep 08

Allegan, MI

#59 Nov 25, 2008
It takes all kinds wrote:
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You are not correct on this one Pete.
1st the PBT is NOT admissible in court so to NOT take it is stupid if your driving. It only becomes admissible if at trial you bring it up and defense attorney almost never do. By taking a test that is not admissible anyway saves yourself a few bucks and gives you an idea of where you are in terms of BAC for the next test at the jail. 2nd is that if you are a minor they are required if asked and there is a penalty for not taking the test. 3rd is that the Michigan Appellate courts ruled a few years ago that a person older than 17 but younger than 21 can not have "possession" once the alcohol has entered the body. This ruling came about from a 19 year who went to Canada and drank,legal age in Canada is 19, but came back to Michigan and as a passenger was asked to take a PBT which showed a BAC and was issued a ticket for MIP. the court stated that once the alcohol entered the body you have no way to have "possession" of he alcohol because you lose the ability to exercise effective control of the alcohol.
Lastly, always go to trial because the cops need the overtime money for the holiday's and since it comes out of the defendants pocket through increased fees, knock yourselves out at trial. Oh, this also makes for a much greener holiday season for the trail lawyers as they get paid by the hour ($200+/hr)to argue your case which, when you look at the stats, are likely to lose anyway.
Wrong, Wrong & Wronger, if that is a word. The PBT is admissible on the issue of probably cause to arrest. I have seen many cases where the defendant does ok on everything else and then blows a .08 or worse, "Put your hands behind your back" and they had NOTHING else. I am not positive they may be admissible in a PBT case also. NEVER take it, never, never, never.

The federal courts have ruled that a pedestrian, no matter what their age, does NOT have to take the PBT w/o a warrant. I believe a couple of cities in Michigan have paid settlements in civil cases over this.

A minor can be charged with MIP even if the only alcohol found is in their system. The case you cite involved a minor who consumed legally in Canada and then travelled to Michigan. Under that unique circumstance he could not be charged because he consumed legally. A kid drinking in Allendale can be charged if he is dumb enough to take a PBT even if he does not have any other booze on him or her.

Since: Nov 08

Grand Haven, MI

#60 Nov 25, 2008
Scott Berger wrote:
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I think it all goes back to bad parenting. My parents taught me right from wrong and I never ran from the cops or fought with them, in fact, I always cooperated because my time spent with them would be shorter. I can see if my mother was in trouble with the law a lot I would probably think that breaking the law was right too.
i dont see where bad parenting is at issue here.. the consumer of the bud lights would be to blame here..
GVSU Parent

Ogden, UT

#61 Nov 25, 2008
C LaRue wrote:
I don't mean to be RUDE or anything but... with those kinds of stats, don't you think he should have been able to outrun everyone?
I'm guessing his level of inebriation affected his running game, among other things.
t13t13t13

Princeton, NJ

#62 Nov 25, 2008
Looks like he's following in the footsteps of former alum David Kircus!!! Maybe Kircus can sugggest a good lawyer. Way to put yourself ahead of the team and potentially ruin the teams season.
GVSU Parent

Ogden, UT

#63 Nov 25, 2008
John Q Public wrote:
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I didn't really "through his away" Kids at GVSU are getting busted every weekend for drinking. Only reason this made the news is because of who he is.
Now why that was the lead story on WOOD yesterday is beyond when we have more pressing news to be reported on.
Kids at GVSU AREN'T getting busted every weekend for assaulting a cop.
mr funny

Manistee, MI

#64 Nov 25, 2008
Bottom line is dont answer the door, dont let anyone leave when the cops are outside waiting, and dont fight with the cops. I could care less who this kid is, but he would fit right in with the NFL.

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