Should Spanking Your Child Be Illegal?

Should Spanking Your Child Be Illegal?

There are 122 comments on the WZZM Grand Rapids story from Nov 28, 2007, titled Should Spanking Your Child Be Illegal?. In it, WZZM Grand Rapids reports that:

Massachusetts lawmakers say a proposed measure that would ban parents from spanking their children, even in their own homes, is a way to protect kids from abuse.

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Derek

United States

#61 Nov 30, 2007
No, spanking, when not done in an abusive way is profitable for child rearing. This comes right from the Bible.

Since: Dec 07

Ada, MI

#62 Dec 2, 2007
I am so sick of hearing how spanking is bad for your kids. And don't even bother. You will never convince me that it is. I was spanked growing up. And yes.... it was with a belt.(horrors!) And yes... I got more than one swat. As a matter of fact, I got one swat per year old I was. Now.... for you Politically Correct people... one swat would have made me laugh... but let me tell you... after 3-4 swats with a belt... you have my attention. And you can bet after 9-10.... I won't be repeating that behavior any time soon. Before the spanking, my mom or dad would discuss the transgression... they would discuss the reason for dicipline, and then they would s p a n k me. After it was over, they made sure I knew I was loved, and then it was over. Oh and by the way... they only spanked me when I needed it. Not because I spilled some milk or broke a vase (unless other behavior that I had been warned about resulted in the above), but when I had dis-obeyed or disrespected them.

Now for the last of the arguements...

1. I have not killed or seriously maimed anyone yet.
2. I graduated with honors from a well known school.
3. I do not hate my parents.
4. I do not hate people in general.
5. I do not hate myself.

All of you nay sayers about spanking need to get a life. If you feel bad about the spankings that you received... get over it. They're over. Move on.

Oh... by the way... I plan on doing the same thing with my children once they reach the spanking age.
JGGrey

Norridgewock, ME

#63 Dec 3, 2007
Its kind of sad that this topic is even being addressed, common sense should tell people the difference between abuse and discipline, yet a good number of people are saying that the government needs to educate people on the difference, Im sorry but I am preaty sure people KNOW the difference, if your child can't sit down, or is bruised, ya went way to far. The government needs to stay out of family life with the exceptions of true abuse. Disciplining your children is a parents responsibility not a subject for legal debate, I have a three year old autistic boy and I have only had to spank him once (a single swat on the diapered rear) and that was only after 3 verbal warnings that the fireplace was hot, the spanking did its job and got his attention. Unlike myself who probably should have gotten a few more swats on the bottom growing up.
madison capps

Jefferson, SC

#64 Dec 11, 2007
I believe that spanking should not be outlawed. I think that abuse already has been outlawed and if we outlaw spanking, it's eliminating our rights as parents and taking away our privilages to punish our children. I can understand if a parent abuses their privaleges and fractures their child's behind but they should report abuse and the parents shouldn't justify abusing their children by calling it spanking. abuse and spanking are two very different things. I think that the main problem and why people are so opinionated about this matter is because spanking is interpreted two different ways, abuse and punishment.
thanks
-madi
jen

Holland, MI

#65 Dec 11, 2007
My bet would be, the same people who are pro anti smoking are also the same people who want to you how to raise your kids.
Napoleon syndrome.
Kendra

Broomfield, CO

#66 Dec 11, 2007
NO WAY!!! I am a teacher and I believe that some kids need a good swat on the rear FROM THEIR PARENTS(not teachers) every once in a while
parent

Battle Creek, MI

#67 Dec 12, 2007
maureenlee wrote:
Yes it should. Fine all the parents that swat their brats. Take the money and build HUGE juvenile facilities and more prisons. After all-that stupid law should pay off somewhere and boy are we going to need them.
If you dont spank them, the world will. I say train up a child in the way they should go, and when they get old they will not depart, start young with LOVE and little swat here and little there wont kill them.But always do it in Love.
Belinda

Erie, CO

#68 Dec 13, 2007
I think that getting the idea of spanking into your child's head as a discipline act helps them be better. if they know that they're going to get spanked for doing a certain thing then why would they do it? plus the 1 year olds who get spanked have a 3 inch diaper on anyway. they can't feel it, they just get scared because they dont like it.

“Lost in the middle somewhere..”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#69 Dec 13, 2007
No spanking wrote:
So I always thought that creating legislation for what SHOULD be common sense was ridiculous. But reading this board, I can see why they are considering legislating something that is at best a useless form of discipline --- at worst, it is emotionally and physically damaging (as noted by various proponents on this board). So it makes no sense to continue using spanking as a tool.
Very similar to the seatbelt usage law, seems like a crazy thing to try to legislate but at some point the government felt it necessary to try and protect people from themselves.
You don't have children, do you?

Since: Oct 07

Grant, MICHIGAN

#70 Dec 13, 2007
I was spanked as achild and I'm not "emotionally damaged." Did I hate it?? Of course! It hurt like h.e.l.l...but I deserved it. In all honesty, I think I'm a better person because of the occasional swat.
ALSO- whenever we got a spanking..my mom or dad (depending on who gave it to us) would always sit us on their lap and tell us that it's not us they didn't love, it was the bad things we did. And then would explain that there always a right and wrong, and when you do wrong...you're going to be punished. If you ARE going to spank...just make sure you're doing it out of love. I remember a time that I sat in "the office" (that's what our dad called the bathroom, which is where we always got the spanking) for nearly an hour because my dad had to cool down...he refused to hit us out of anger.(Obviously, I don't support he "law")

“Lost in the middle somewhere..”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#71 Dec 13, 2007
Pprmint Patti wrote:
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Bringing my duaghter to the doctor is emotionally and physically damaging to her. So I suppose I should be outlawed for doing so. She also really hates wearing a life jacket.. theres that darn emotional damage again. Time outs are emotionally damaging to her too... shoot, now I have to throw that out the window. I make her eat vegetables she doesnt like... aw shucks! Emotional & physically damaging.
Wow, now that I have really thought about it, as a parent, it seems like I cant do anything except give her everything she wants and let her know that no matter what she ever does, that it is ok... because I wouldnt want to emotionally or physically damage her.
This is a perfect summation of what I was thinking! You put this so well.

1. Spanking does not forever damage a child's well being emotionally or physically.

2. When spanking we should NEVER do it out of anger!

3. Use spanking as a last resort when nothing else seems to work. The reason is because it is more likely to cause getting their attention because it doesn't get over-used and thereby causing children to become "immune".(You know how if you yell all the time they tune you out).

4. In my opinion there is a pretty thick line between using spanking as a discipline and child abuse. It's pretty simple...if you spank your child when you are angry you are more likely to vent all those frustration thereby leading a parent to not know when to stop (abuse). But a swat across the butt once or twice when you are calm and trying to "get their attention" for whatever reason should not be a crime.

5. I am all for positive reinforcement for teaching children. But I don't know of any child that is perfectly behaved 100% of the time. And even though I rarely spank my children I would have to say that most of the time the reason has been because they have done something to jeopardize their safety or the safety of their brothers.

6. The government has absolutely no business inside my house telling me how to raise my children. The only time they would be allowed to interfere is if I were doing something illegal. Other than that, stay out of my family life and how I discipline my children. Period.

“Go TIGERS!!”

Since: Nov 07

Caledonia, MI

#72 Dec 13, 2007
anyone who says never spank or bribe your kids has never been in the store with 5 kids ages 9 and under!! just my 2 cents!
22 and learning

Bowling Green, KY

#73 Dec 13, 2007
I remember when I was a kid and I got a spanking for something I did wrong... and ya know what I Deserved it! I always grew up saying I'll never spank my kids but darnit if they need it they'll get it. I babysat this little girl who was rotten she kicked and spit in my face but she never had discipline. I'm not saying whoop your kids just for the fun of it.-.- I'm just saying if its necessary and its gotten to that point then yes. I see all these rotten children now who get away with everything. Its sad that kids control the parents instead of the other way around.
Conservative_in_ Atlanta

Auburn, GA

#74 Dec 13, 2007
joe wrote:
More liberal BS.
Are we tired of the liberal scourge yet?
yes!
Conservative_in_ Atlanta

Auburn, GA

#75 Dec 13, 2007
cmon now wrote:
<quoted text>
Spank the kids, make -em brave! Because when they see what the crooked RepubliCONS have done to this country they will need to be strong, especially when they get the bill for the war based on Limbaugh lies,,,, maybe 76K per child in todays terms?? You gotta go Joe
I'm new to this board so I could be missing something, but... I can not imagine what "crooked republiCONS", Rush Limbaugh, or the national debt have to do with spanking children. Please... enlighten me?
Product of Public School

Whitehall, MI

#76 Dec 13, 2007
Conservative_in_Atlanta wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm new to this board so I could be missing something, but... I can not imagine what "crooked republiCONS", Rush Limbaugh, or the national debt have to do with spanking children. Please... enlighten me?
It's the whole idea of the nanny state governing what you can and cant do for your own good. The illogical extrapolation is creating a government bureaucracy to police parents, handle spanking complaints, fine violators, tax all ping pong paddle sales, sell spanking offsets, and find a way to spend all of our (the tax) dollars generated.

Of course the RE$AL solution would be privatization. Blackwater and Haliburton et. al. providing child discipline, with no bid contracts awarded as paybacks for campaign contributions....

It's all how you look at it.

BTW, Spanking should not be legislated, Abuse already is.
ENOUGH LAWS, MORE ENFORCEMENT.

Since: Dec 07

Atlanta, GA

#77 Dec 13, 2007
BTW, Spanking should not be legislated, Abuse already is.
ENOUGH LAWS, MORE ENFORCEMENT.
Hear, hear! Same goes for gun laws, immigration laws, etc.. but those are other topics.

LOL to most of the beginning of this quote, except the Nanny government because that's so true it's scary. I call it the "Daddy" government, but that's probably because I'm female. lol

Anyway, I've seen people saying that we should legislate whether or not private citizens can smoke in their own private residences. People saying that the government or some agency should have as much, if not more, to say about raising our children as they do. The fact that such a large group feels this way frightens me - even though I know they are not the majority.

I don't think I started getting scared until I had children of my own and realized that a ticked-off ex-wife, friend, neighbor, or co-worker could have your children taken away from you or have you investigated by the state. Even though I never lost either of my girls, the *IDEA* that my government has the RIGHT to take them, search them, question them... all without my permission... put a cold, hard dread in my heart and I hope I'm not the only one.

Asking the government to raise our children... or us, for that matter... means we give them control. That is dead opposite of the way this country was meant to be run and I wonder how long it's going to take for people to be more frightened than they are lazy... For them to realize that when someone gives you something (support), you become beholden to them.

When you tell the government that they have rights to your children, when you tell SOCIETY that they have rights to your children, you have to realize that every piece of your child you give away is a piece you lose. It's not worth it and I am so, so glad that my children are now grown but I worry about all those parents who think that "Big Daddy Government" will help them (read support them with my tax money) because they have no idea that their very lives and families are being bought with that little bit of... "help."

How about we go back to the time where your children were your responsibility? Where it would have been a family shame to have a wild child running the streets... Where we all survived our parent's discipline even though we hated it, and grew up saying, "Boy, my mom/dad was tough but they sure taught me to respect authority and I love them for it."

I wasn't going to say this but since it's constantly being thrown up in this debate, I'll do the obligatory qualification by saying, "No, I do not think you should beat your children senseless. No, I do not believe you should backhand them every time they act like children. Yes, I think your butt should be hauled off to jail if you abuse your children or anyone else - last time I checked, assault is against the law." There... I've done my civic duty by not passively supporting child abuse. Right? <grin>
Lea

Valyermo, CA

#78 May 1, 2008
I spank my kids. How do they know what's good for my child? How I raise my children and the way I spank them is no business of the lawmakers. When I spank them I am not abusing them, just teaching them what's right from wrong. I don't think anyone can teach my kids any better then myself. The lawmakers don't pay any of my bills and they sure don't feed my kid's, so they should have no say on how I discipline them. When they start paying my bills, then they can tell me what I need to do with my kids.

“Lost in the middle somewhere..”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#79 May 2, 2008
Lea wrote:
I spank my kids. How do they know what's good for my child? How I raise my children and the way I spank them is no business of the lawmakers. When I spank them I am not abusing them, just teaching them what's right from wrong. I don't think anyone can teach my kids any better then myself. The lawmakers don't pay any of my bills and they sure don't feed my kid's, so they should have no say on how I discipline them. When they start paying my bills, then they can tell me what I need to do with my kids.
I agree with what you are saying. However, I just hope that s.panking is not your first choice for discipline. There are other much more effective ways to discipline than s.panking. It is always the last resort with my kids. But when they really need it, they get it! Especially when it comes to them being disrespectful to others.

Since: Jul 07

Grand Rapids, MI

#80 May 2, 2008
No! Spanking should not be illegal! I'm sick and tired of this! The schools even preach this to the kids at school. Telling the kids that parents aren't allowed to spank their kids. I do not spank my kids because of this. So right now my 12 year old thinks that she can do whatever her little heart desires and not get in to trouble. Well she is learning the hard way now, even though I don't spank her, she never thought of groundings! She's on punishment as we speak for walking to Burger King during 2nd hour. 4 weeks of not playing on the computer and not allowed to use the phone is seeming to straighten her tail out right now. But she might wise up and think other things down the road.

I would love to be able to spank her! She needs one here and there it seems like!

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