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vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#22 Oct 5, 2013
Bob wrote:
The fact of the matter, is that there are laws that require you to insure a home if it has a mortgage loan against it.
The fact of the matter is having a home (and therefore homeowners insurance)is optional. Renters are not required to have insurance and if you own your home outright, you are not required to have insurance. Having a car (and therefore having auto insurance)is optional. Having a body is not.
Leave it to the taco slinging short bus rider to not get it.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#23 Oct 6, 2013
vox veritatis wrote:
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The fact of the matter is having a home (and therefore homeowners insurance)is optional. Renters are not required to have insurance and if you own your home outright, you are not required to have insurance. Having a car (and therefore having auto insurance)is optional. Having a body is not.
Leave it to the taco slinging short bus rider to not get it.
Then it should be easy for you patriots to point to the part of the constitution that says you get free health care for the body you had no choice about having......

Since: Feb 10

Grand Rapids, MI

#24 Oct 6, 2013
Bob wrote:
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Aimless rambling without proven facts from a trusted website doesn't mean squat......
Your contention that everyone will pay the same rates, flies in the face of other blubbering conservatives that say that the ACA is unfair because smokers and fat people will pay more.
Can't you people get your story straight?
What color is the sky in your world? You really don't pay attention and just make stuff up don't you?

One of the big causes for the ACA from the left was that it wasn't fair that women paid more than men, or that fat people paid more than healthy people, or that sick people pay more than healthy people. The cry from the left was that health insurance wasn't fair because smokers and fat people pay more.

We have our story straight. You should try to get your story straight, but that's probaby to great a challenge.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#25 Oct 6, 2013
FLBeaver wrote:
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What color is the sky in your world? You really don't pay attention and just make stuff up don't you?
One of the big causes for the ACA from the left was that it wasn't fair that women paid more than men, or that fat people paid more than healthy people, or that sick people pay more than healthy people. The cry from the left was that health insurance wasn't fair because smokers and fat people pay more.
We have our story straight. You should try to get your story straight, but that's probaby to great a challenge.
In my world, the sky happens to be grey right now with the rain and all. However, there's quite a few days when the sun is shining and the sky is a beautiful blue. Also, in my world, the sky only turns black after the sun has gone down...... You?

I'm going to predict that it will be a long time before the sun shines again in a world where we celebrate profits over people!

Since: Feb 10

Grand Rapids, MI

#26 Oct 6, 2013
Bob wrote:
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In my world, the sky happens to be grey right now with the rain and all. However, there's quite a few days when the sun is shining and the sky is a beautiful blue. Also, in my world, the sky only turns black after the sun has gone down...... You?
I'm going to predict that it will be a long time before the sun shines again in a world where we celebrate profits over people!
Profits are what enables things to get better, whether it is something like a car, farming, medicine or anything else. Profits are what allows doctors and others to donate time to those who can't pay for it. My father-in-law would go with other medical professionals to 3rd and 4th world countries to donate their services. It was their profits and the profits of companies that allowed them to go and provided the medical equipment and supplies they used.

Yes, we celebrate people but profits, both personal and in business allow us to do so. If organizations like Special Olympics or Make A Wish had to earn their own money to do what they do and were not allowed to take the profits that others have made and donate to them, those charitible organizations along with all the others would disappear.

People complain that X makes too much, but they never seem to complain that this actor or that athlete makes too much, just business people. And I've never heard anyone complain that people give too much, yet what allows Bill Gates to give billions of dollars are profits.

Could some people give more? Of course, but that's a personal decision. Just like different people prefer to give to different types of organizations. If there are two very weathly individuals and one gives 1% and the other gives 50%, I don't see that as a reflection on capitalism or profits, but on the character of the individual. I know there are people who make millions and give lots away, and some who give very little. And there are people who make little and give most of it away. And others who give nothing.

How people spend money isn't a reflection on money, it's a reflection on them.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#27 Oct 7, 2013
Has anyone else noticed the hypocrisy from the right wing lunatics?

The ACA, known by these whackos as Obamacare supposedly has DEATH PANELS!!!! And yet they fully support insurance companies and their discrimination against their customers only after they get sick?

Profits before people is the great American way. This fits right in with their demands to abolish agencies like the FDA and EPA. Amazing!
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Fenton, MI

#28 Oct 7, 2013
Bob wrote:
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In my world, the sky happens to be grey right now with the rain and all. However, there's quite a few days when the sun is shining and the sky is a beautiful blue. Also, in my world, the sky only turns black after the sun has gone down...... You?
I'm going to predict that it will be a long time before the sun shines again in a world where we celebrate profits over people!
Profits are made by Productive People Bobbie....... They Earn It....... Get a better job......
free thinker

Farmington, MI

#29 Oct 7, 2013
Bob wrote:
Then it should be easy for you patriots to point to the part of the constitution that says you get free health care for the body you had no choice about having......
Nobody said anything about free health insurance but you and your owser puke pals.
free thinker

Farmington, MI

#30 Oct 7, 2013
Bob wrote:
The ACA, known by these whackos as Obamacare supposedly has DEATH PANELS!!!! And yet they fully support insurance companies and their discrimination against their customers only after they get sick?
You and your pukegressive pals support a system in which the goverment (the same government that can't work together, can't get a website up and running on time and has delayed the rollout of various provisions of this plan) gets to determine what care you do and do not receive. Hope someone you care about is the first to get denied some life-prolonging treatment becuase they're not deemed 'viable' cuz when they do, I'll laugh right in your face.
Dr X

Byron Center, MI

#31 Oct 7, 2013
free thinker wrote:
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You and your pukegressive pals support a system in which the goverment (the same government that can't work together, can't get a website up and running on time and has delayed the rollout of various provisions of this plan) gets to determine what care you do and do not receive. Hope someone you care about is the first to get denied some life-prolonging treatment becuase they're not deemed 'viable' cuz when they do, I'll laugh right in your face.
Bob would just turn around and blame Republicans for the lack of care in that instance. People like himself are nothing but sheeparrots. They live to be led around by Fed Shepard like little, woolly animals and they squawk out repetitious utterances which they learn and repeat from their owners. And the funny thing about it is that they still believe that they're vastly more intelligent than the rest of us. Ah progressives *sighs*, your folly will be your undoing.

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