IRS Scandal Widens Beyond Tea Party

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Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#1 Jun 1, 2013
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/05/break...

[The Obama IRS Scandal widens:

** Nearly 500 conservative groups targeted
** At least 5 pro-Israel groups targeted
** Constitutional groups targeted
** Groups that criticized Obama administration were targeted
** At least two pro-life groups targeted
** A Texas voting-rights group was targeted
** Conservative activists and businesses were targeted

A group of anti-abortion activists in Iowa had to promise the Internal Revenue Service it wouldn’t picket in front of Planned Parenthood.

Catherine Engelbrecht’s family and business in Texas were audited by the government after her voting-rights group sought tax-exempt status from the IRS.

Retired military veteran Mark Drabik of Nebraska became active in and donated to conservative causes, then found the IRS challenging his church donations.]

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If these were liberal/progressive groups that the IRS targeted under a republican administration the same Useful Idiots who have been ridiculing and denying the importance of this scandal would be demanding the election was rigged and they'd be screaming for impeachment hearings.

You know it. They know it.
Rob

United States

#2 Jun 1, 2013
Oneal wrote:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.co m/2013/05/breaking-obama-irs-s candal-widens-conservative-act ivists-and-businesses-targeted -too/

[The Obama IRS Scandal widens:

** Nearly 500 conservative groups targeted
** At least 5 pro-Israel groups targeted
** Constitutional groups targeted
** Groups that criticized Obama administration were targeted
** At least two pro-life groups targeted
** A Texas voting-rights group was targeted
** Conservative activists and businesses were targeted

A group of anti-abortion activists in Iowa had to promise the Internal Revenue Service it wouldnÂ’t picket in front of Planned Parenthood.

Catherine EngelbrechtÂ’s family and business in Texas were audited by the government after her voting-rights group sought tax-exempt status from the IRS.

Retired military veteran Mark Drabik of Nebraska became active in and donated to conservative causes, then found the IRS challenging his church donations.]

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If these were liberal/progressive groups that the IRS targeted under a republican administration the same Useful Idiots who have been ridiculing and denying the importance of this scandal would be demanding the election was rigged and they'd be screaming for impeachment hearings.

You know it. They know it.
Start a National sales tax and get rid of 75% of the IRS. This is a huge in justice to to the American people. I will even be radical on this one and say they should hang the guilty. This kind of abuse of power is something that should be dealt with harshly. Those in power should have fear from this sort of activity and so should every American. This is the government controlling the people. It is totally unexceptable and in excusable.
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#3 Jun 1, 2013
Rob wrote:
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Start a National sales tax and get rid of 75% of the IRS. This is a huge in justice to to the American people. I will even be radical on this one and say they should hang the guilty. This kind of abuse of power is something that should be dealt with harshly. Those in power should have fear from this sort of activity and so should every American. This is the government controlling the people. It is totally unexceptable and in excusable.
Not sure about hanging people, but they should be punished - and a reasonable, rational discussion needs to occur regarding ridding the American people from what has turned into an altogether un-American entity within our government.

None of this will never happen. Those involved will be shifted around and the IRS will go on being what appears to be a wing of the democratic election army.
Rob

United States

#4 Jun 1, 2013
Oneal wrote:
<quoted text>Not sure about hanging people, but they should be punished - and a reasonable, rational discussion needs to occur regarding ridding the American people from what has turned into an altogether un-American entity within our government.

None of this will never happen. Those involved will be shifted around and the IRS will go on being what appears to be a wing of the democratic election army.
The IRS has not been trusted by the American people for many years. Ask any agent if they don't even understand majority of the tax laws they enforce. They have used their power to harass people for decades. This is actually nothing new. It has only got more extreme. Simplify the tax code and cover more people in the tax code by a national sales tax. Then we will not need such a big IRS department. Holder is a danger to America I strongly believe that. Wether it is the Black Panthers, Fast and Furious or whatever he has done America no justice.
Rob

United States

#5 Jun 1, 2013
Oneal wrote:
<quoted text>Not sure about hanging people, but they should be punished - and a reasonable, rational discussion needs to occur regarding ridding the American people from what has turned into an altogether un-American entity within our government.

None of this will never happen. Those involved will be shifted around and the IRS will go on being what appears to be a wing of the democratic election army.
Something more I should add to backup my words.
Besides every other scandal and him trying to have off the record meetings or negotiations with any willing media outlet he is responsible for the deaths of boarder patrol agents and hundreds maybe even thousands of Mexicans. Possibly even American civilians. This was done by directing gun dealers to sell guns to the straw purchasers and allow those guns to go across the border with out tracking them and directing the FBI agents not to follow or track those guns. All this while keeping the Mexican government in the dark on it all. This is in itself against international law. Do you now trust Holder to investigate himself on the IRS scandal? I sure as hell don't! But that is what he is asking for.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Oxford, MI

#6 Jun 1, 2013
Most corrupt Administration since Woodrow Wilson. I think the current one is worse.....
Dr X

Byron Center, MI

#7 Jun 1, 2013
Obama is a Nazi.
Holder is a Nazi.
Sibelius is a Nazi.
Those involved at the IRS(at the direction of holder and Obama) are Nazis.
The list grows by the day.
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#8 Jun 2, 2013
Dr X wrote:
Obama is a Nazi.
Holder is a Nazi.
Sibelius is a Nazi.
Those involved at the IRS(at the direction of holder and Obama) are Nazis.
The list grows by the day.
Far better to call these radicals what they are, progressives, than nazis, a term that has been morphed over time into a sick cartoon insult of a fanatic with a tiny mustache. The more we relate the term PROGRESSIVE to the radical and un-American socialist platform that has given us the IRS attack on free press and the targeting of citizens, death taxes and Obamacare, the more modern day citizens can relate to the left's steady nudging of America toward that of a weak, socialist, government-dependent nation.

Obama is a progressive, not a Nazi. We want to challenge his progressivism, which indeed has some of the same philosophies as yesterday's Nazi platform (central control of the financial system, eminent domain, death taxes, controlling the press, control of education, etc.), but does not invoke the image of millions of dead Jews and a crazy maniac with a tiny mustache.

Replace Nazi with Progressive and your argument will be more effective.
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#9 Jun 2, 2013
In addition ... once people realize the radical and anti-American PROGRESSIVE platform for what it is (a dangerous socialistic nightmare) it will be to tie progressivism to the term DEMOCRAT, which obviously is a term far more relatable to most Americans than Nazi. If Americans begin to accurately relate the democrat party with radical progressivism, and all of the anti-American philosophies that come with progressivism, the better educated they will be when it comes to not only voting, but standing up for the basic principles of America that progressivism attacks.
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#10 Jun 2, 2013
Correction:

(it will be easier to tie progressivism to the term democrat...)
Dr X

Byron Center, MI

#11 Jun 2, 2013
Oneal wrote:
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Far better to call these radicals what they are, progressives, than nazis, a term that has been morphed over time into a sick cartoon insult of a fanatic with a tiny mustache. The more we relate the term PROGRESSIVE to the radical and un-American socialist platform that has given us the IRS attack on free press and the targeting of citizens, death taxes and Obamacare, the more modern day citizens can relate to the left's steady nudging of America toward that of a weak, socialist, government-dependent nation.
Obama is a progressive, not a Nazi. We want to challenge his progressivism, which indeed has some of the same philosophies as yesterday's Nazi platform (central control of the financial system, eminent domain, death taxes, controlling the press, control of education, etc.), but does not invoke the image of millions of dead Jews and a crazy maniac with a tiny mustache.
Replace Nazi with Progressive and your argument will be more effective.
I understand your point. I however, still feel as if they mirror the Nazi party of 1923-1933, you know, before they started killing Jews and invading other peoples private property? The term "progressive" is rather new and I can't really relate to Obama and his foot-soldiers with anything other than in a historical context. Perhaps Nazi is too harsh a term seeing that he hasn't ordered the "ghettos" yet, but I firmly believe that it is the Constitutional government and the people like us that has prevented him from becoming the next Adolf Hitler. He wants power and total control. They want power and total control. They will receive neither.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Oxford, MI

#13 Jun 3, 2013
Federal Govt is in trouble.......

Since: Oct 12

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#14 Jun 3, 2013
Don't suppose there is any possibility to see disclosure of every group, seeking tax-exempt status, over say....the last twenty years?....or just the tea party incident?
Really

Grand Rapids, MI

#15 Jun 3, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
Don't suppose there is any possibility to see disclosure of every group, seeking tax-exempt status, over say....the last twenty years?....or just the tea party incident?
It has gone beyond "just the tea party" and if you buy the line that it was only "rogue agents" when there are people from the IRS themselves saying the orders came from DC, then you have the worst case of "ostrich syndrome" to be seen to date. Of course, if GW had been the President when this took place, the tantrums would be something to truly behold. Along with screaming for impeachment and tar and feathering from the left and the ostrich lovers.

Since: Oct 12

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#16 Jun 3, 2013
....Small, Petty, Snotty................
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#17 Jun 3, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
....Small, Petty, Snotty..........
And this isn't? http://www.topix.com/forum/city/grand-rapids-...
Go Blue Forever wrote:
what is this, Fourth grade?...Grow the f*ck up.....
Pot....kettle....black.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#18 Jun 3, 2013
vox veritatis wrote:
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And this isn't? http://www.topix.com/forum/city/grand-rapids-...
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Pot....kettle....black.
Are you SandyII? I was'nt speaking to you.....
cannonfodder

Comstock Park, MI

#19 Jun 3, 2013
obama equals One Big Ass Mistake America
Really

Grand Rapids, MI

#20 Jun 3, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
....Small, Petty, Snotty..........
Yup because you so mature that you don't get "small, petty, snotty" with anyone who disagrees with you, do you? Your immaturity makes Pipedream look mature, and that's going some Blue.
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#21 Jun 4, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Are you SandyII? I was'nt speaking to you.....
Talk about small petty and snotty! You were called out on your hypocrisy, Go Blue. Deal with it like a man for once.

It's about time you liberals grew up and stopped playing this "our team vs your team" game of ignoring the scandals and corruption simply because Obama is president and you think it's funny that conservatives are angry over this administration's ridiculous mismanagement.

There are serious ramifications to a government entity like the IRS that so blatantly targets certain Americans because of their personal views. If this group targeted black people under a republican president you'd be the first to go through the roof and demand impeachment.

Whether you want to admit it or not there will be a time going forward where the political worm turns and a republican president will again sit in the oval office. History has proven this time and again and nothing you liberals have done is effective enough to change that cycle. Consider the precedent you Obama excuse-makers are setting for the future, when the power and corruption you are ignoring with this administration is given to a ... gulp ... conservative president.

If you liberals had even half a brain you'd be acting like Americans and supporting the investigations into the IRS, demanding the truth be revealed instead of taking the fifth, and no longer acting like this is a high school football game of your team vs ours.

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