I Love My Son

United States

#125 Aug 13, 2008
My son has ADHD and is in 5th grade. He is not out of control on or off his medication. He has trouble concentrating and just sitting still. Homework time is hard. I have him on a 15 minute schedule. 15 minute homework 15 minute break. That helps with the frustration. He takes medication in the morning that lasts until around 3:00. He has problems with a lot of sound. If he is reading it needs to be quiet or he can not concentrate. Also kids with ADHD need a firm schedule and lots of organization in their life.

I think parenting a child with ADHD is anything but a lazy parent. The medicine does not make them obey...it gives them the ability to obey.

We went to counceling at Pine Rest and went through many hours of testing, multiple packets of info to fill out by me and the school. Then reveiwed again by Pine Rest and then his doctor before we even talked about medication. Made such an improvement in his life with friends and in school. Would make the same decision again.
OMG

Riverside, CA

#126 Aug 13, 2008
Some have differently developed brains, absolutely. Unfortunately, almost 0% of people diagnosed with ADD and ADHD are diagnosed with a brain scan.

Some pseudoscientist aka psychologist looks at them, has a checklist of what used to be a good description of what a boy is and then perscribes speed.

Children do become dependant on the drug and many times when it is removed initially misbehave. THe good news is if you continue to talk to children, and work a very healthy diet, you will find many never needed the drugs to start with and can live very productive lives. I have two examples of this in my family.

Unfortunately, our schools are chock full of pseudo-teachers that want our kids medicated to the point of zombies rather than deal with them. Be very wary about this and prior to just accepting a perscription for your child, get the brain scan.
also

Pueblo, CO

#129 Aug 13, 2008
Red_Fist wrote:
I could say mabye 1% may need a pill, the rest is balderdash.
I LOVE how you know how many are in need of meds! Please tell us, was it the endless case studies you have done or your many years as a physician that has given you the arrogance to belittle these parents who have been dealing with a disorder that you clearly have no first hand knowledge of.

Since: Jun 08

United States

#130 Aug 13, 2008
4boys-1princess wrote:
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Well Red, Im glad you can acknowdedge that. It is hard to diagnose problems like ADHD, because there is such a range of behavior involved and every child is different. There also is no blood test for a definitive diagnosis, like with so many other diseases. Like I said in a previous post, there is a difference between naughty children and those with ADHD.(In my opinion, naughty ones could use a good crack on the keister.) I have heard it explained that for a child with ADHD, stimuli from the world enters his brain differently than for others. It would be like listening to a radio and tv at the same time, and having the stations change every 3 seconds. Not only does it get annoying, but it is confusing, and impossible to grasp and process the information entering. The meds slow the brain down and allow the child to focus.
Amphetamines do not slow the brain down.

“Lost my mind”

Since: Apr 07

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#131 Aug 13, 2008
ShouldaWouldaCoulda wrote:
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Amphetamines do not slow the brain down.
If someone has ADHD/ADD it will. The brain works opposite on the medication than if a 'normal' person would take it.

A 'normal' person would be higher than a kite on a windy day if they were to take it. With ADHD/ADD, it has the exact opposite effect and calms a TRUE case down. It's not a matter of 'drugging' them up to get them to mind or behave. It helps with concentration and other activities that would normally be next to impossible and frustrating for them to do.. like homework, or even just to sit still.

Caffeine and sugar also have the exact opposite effect. Doesn't make them hyper but slows them down.
say what

Farmington, MI

#132 Aug 13, 2008
I Love My Son wrote:
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I think parenting a child with ADHD is anything but a lazy parent. The medicine does not make them obey...it gives them the ability to obey.
We went to counceling at Pine Rest and went through many hours of testing, multiple packets of info to fill out by me and the school. Then reveiwed again by Pine Rest and then his doctor before we even talked about medication. Made such an improvement in his life with friends and in school. Would make the same decision again.
The people who do not have children with ADD or ADHD and like to spout off about how those of us who do choose to help our kids cope with the condition need to read this a couple of times so they understand that the diagnosis is not handed out by a teacher, a parent or even a pediatrician and it is not made without a thorough evaluation by more than one party. If you think you can just take your kid to the doctor and ask for a prescription for ADD, I'd like to challenge those with kids to try that sometime and see what your doctor tells you. I think you might find it enlightening.
Medications for ADD or ADHD do not make a child a 'zombie'; if they do, the doctor should be sued for overmedicating the kid.
My child takes ADD meds and the last word I would use to describe them is 'zombie'. Most people would not be able to tell the difference between her and any other normal kid.

Ignorance...it's curable through education.

“DRILL FOR OIL?, "YES WE CAN"”

Since: Jul 08

Grand Rapids, MI

#135 Aug 13, 2008
How about those crappy fast image cartoons these days, damn that would give anyone a brain attack.

Wild music, toss in junk food, parents needing to work, daycare ,other kids whos parents are clueless.

If people can hand out speed to kids, they might as well give them beers or pot instead, at least it aint manmade.

Drunk kid with ADD lol.

“DRILL FOR OIL?, "YES WE CAN"”

Since: Jul 08

Grand Rapids, MI

#136 Aug 13, 2008
I meant sending your kids to daycare with other kids whos parent don't teach them.
say what

Littleton, CO

#137 Aug 13, 2008
Red_Fist wrote:
How about those crappy fast image cartoons these days, damn that would give anyone a brain attack.
Wild music, toss in junk food, parents needing to work, daycare ,other kids whos parents are clueless.
Yeah...Wil E Coyote, Yosemite Sam and Elmer Fudd were so much more intellectually stimulating.

Here's where your little theory has a flaw: if the things you say were responsible, then all kids in the same family, who presumably have the same TV viewing and eating habits would be equally affected. But they aren't.
I have two children...one with ADD and one without.

Daycare and working parents don't necessarily mean doom to a kid, either. Both parents in this household work full time and went to [gasp] day care, but my kids have managed to be A students since they hit school.
Maybe it's because we have rules and hold them accountable? Hmmm...what a thought.

“DRILL FOR OIL?, "YES WE CAN"”

Since: Jul 08

Vulcan, MI

#139 Aug 13, 2008
A kid on "Nanny" TV show tonight, has adhd,pure BS, pure nonsense.
Nanny said it was 12% of kids have it, what a crock, that means 4 kids out of 30, no friggin way, more like 4 bad parents who have no clue.

Damn little punk throwing things, hell I would go in his room and smash everything he had in front of his face to show him how others can act like a turd as well.

fight fire with fire I say, how the hell is the kid ever going to know that what he does affects other people if he doesn't expirience it himself.

My neice about 6 or 7 kicked my grandma,she was in a kicking phase, she kicked her back, and that little witch ran off to daddy as if she was so offened.Guess what, she never kicked again !!!

“DRILL FOR OIL?, "YES WE CAN"”

Since: Jul 08

Vulcan, MI

#140 Aug 13, 2008
No the cartoons of today are way to fast,and don't make sense, prolly give you epilepsy.
They don't have a good guy or a bad guy, just a bunch of graphics whipping by, not even close to a good cartoon, like spaceghost or underdog or Johnny quest.
Rufis

Grand Rapids, MI

#141 Aug 13, 2008
Recently, I was diagnosed with A.A.A.D.D.- Age Activated Attention Deficit Disorder. This is how it manifests: I decided to wash my car. As I start toward the garage, I notice that there is mail on the hall table. I decide to go through the mail before I wash the car. I lay my car keys down on the table, put the junk mail in the trash can under the table, and notice that the trash can is full. So, I decide to put the bills back on the table and take out the trash first.

But then I think, since I'm going to be near the mailbox when I take out the trash anyway, I may as well pay the bills first. I take my cheque book off the table, and see that there is only one check left. My extra cheques are in my desk in the study, so I go to my desk where I find the bottle of beer that I had been drinking. I'm going to look for my cheques, but first I need to push the beer aside so that I don't accidentally knock it over. I see that the beer is getting warm, and I decide I should put it in the refrigerator to keep it cold.

As I head toward the kitchen with the beer, a vase of flowers on the counter catches my eye - they need to be watered. I set the beer down on the counter, and I discover my reading glasses that I've been searching for all morning. I decide I better put them back on my desk, but first I'm going to water the flowers. I set the glasses back down on the counter, fill a container with water and suddenly I spot the TV remote.

Someone left it on the kitchen table. I realize that tonight when we go to watch TV, we will be looking for the remote, but nobody will remember that it's on the kitchen table, so I decide to put it back in the den where it belongs, but first I'll water the flowers. I splash some water on the flowers, but most of it spills on the floor. So, I set the remote back down on the table, get some towels and wipe up the spill. Then I head down the hall trying to remember what I was planning to do.

At the end of the day: the car isn't washed, the bills aren't paid, there is a warm bottle of beer sitting on the counter, the flowers aren't watered, there is still only one check in my cheque book, I can't find the remote, I can't find my glasses, and I don't remember what I did with the car keys. Then when I try to figure out why nothing got done today, I'm really baffled because I know I was busy ALL DAY LONG, and I'm really tired.

I realize this is a serious problem, and I'll try to get some help for it, but first I'll check my e-mail...
JustMom

United States

#143 Aug 13, 2008
lori wrote:
<quoted text>My daughter is special needs and has been involved in Special Olympics for the last 3 years. This is a truly wonderful organization. I always get emotional when I see that athlete that comes in last place and still has a smile on their face.
Same here. I truly believe that more so called normal people could learn from these kids and adults.
JustMom

United States

#144 Aug 13, 2008
neecer wrote:
<quoted text>
If someone has ADHD/ADD it will. The brain works opposite on the medication than if a 'normal' person would take it.
A 'normal' person would be higher than a kite on a windy day if they were to take it. With ADHD/ADD, it has the exact opposite effect and calms a TRUE case down. It's not a matter of 'drugging' them up to get them to mind or behave. It helps with concentration and other activities that would normally be next to impossible and frustrating for them to do.. like homework, or even just to sit still.
Caffeine and sugar also have the exact opposite effect. Doesn't make them hyper but slows them down.
I agree with you on the caffeine. I had a nurse at the hospital tell me to give my son caffeine and it would have an adverse affect on him. She was referring to coffee or tea without the sugar. And go figure he won't drink either one.
say what

Farmington, MI

#145 Aug 14, 2008
JustMom wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you on the caffeine. I had a nurse at the hospital tell me to give my son caffeine and it would have an adverse affect on him. She was referring to coffee or tea without the sugar. And go figure he won't drink either one.
My child's doctor suggested Mountain Dew/Diet Dew and said it worked better than coffee. My dd prefers the coffee, though, at least in the morning.
AnotherPoster

United States

#146 Aug 14, 2008
I had an old lady tell me years ago that her hyper kid got into his brothers mini-thins and that the day he took one was one of the only days the kid was ever calm.
Does that mean I should give my kid a mini-thin?

“I married R1 on 9/7/08!”

Since: Mar 08

Love you honey! Smooches! :)

#147 Aug 14, 2008
West Michigan wrote:
With the growing numbers of children being labeled ADD or ADHD, are they legitimate diagnosis or just an excuse for poor parenting or no parenting?
i am against the meds and over labeling/diagnosing children with ADD/ADHD, however it so happens that one of my children does have ADD. I really voiced my concerns with the school, doctor and family, and although against the meds and the over stereotyping, my child benefits greatly from the medication!!! my husband and i tried everything we could think of, but to get our child to pay attention was next to impossible or we couldn't keep that attention for more than 30 seconds. I don't think its a fact in poor/no parenting! maybe in some cases but not in mine.
and did you ever think that more and more kids are showing symptoms or that people are now more aware and trained to detect it than previously???

“I married R1 on 9/7/08!”

Since: Mar 08

Love you honey! Smooches! :)

#148 Aug 14, 2008
hss wrote:
<quoted text> If all you can do is turn out freaks, then you need to quit breeding. Try spanking them. Kids understand pain.
i believe spanking can teach a child that hitting is ok. you need to use other forms of discipline, like time out, taking things away, taking priviliges away, paying you for the problems that you have to solve, etc. spanking should be used as a last resort and not with anything, just your hand, and shouldn't be carried out into the teen years, my kids won't be freaks, and understanding pain? did you abuse children and that is your twisted idea that kids like that?

“I married R1 on 9/7/08!”

Since: Mar 08

Love you honey! Smooches! :)

#149 Aug 14, 2008
Just a thought wrote:
<quoted text>
Get a clue! This is a actual disorder
. But yeah sometimes doctors are to quick to throw a kid on meds. But they are not freaks!!!!!!!!If I could I would jump through the PC and whoop your a**! And before you judge me or my comments I work in the medical profession I am a Surgical Technician, and have personal experiance with ADD?ADHD, my brother has it. And it does not go away with age, they just learn how to control it for the most part.
its also hereditary as i have it and so does at least one of my kids! its a disorder, not a basis to refer to someone as a freak

“I married R1 on 9/7/08!”

Since: Mar 08

Love you honey! Smooches! :)

#150 Aug 14, 2008
Sympathetic mom wrote:
My son isn't on any drugs and hasn't been diagnosed with anything other than epilespy, but saying that he is "high energy" is an understatement. My other kids are not like him. He is not a bad kid, but he cannot sit still, focus, or concentrate. Even when he is sleeping his body twitches. It even frustrates him that he can't concentrate on one thing at time. He is way behind academically, but he is the sweetest, friendliest kid you could ever meet. I sympathize with parents who are frustrated and don't know where else to turn besides Ritalin. Hopefully, I won't have to turn to drugs, but how far behind do I let him get???(Spankings don't help kids like this, they only make them more violent when they have outbursts). There is no easy solution...
exactly! and ya know my child went to two years of preschool, young 5's, kindergarten, then first grade twice until they caught up to 1st grade level, they needed glasses and was diagnosed with ADD, its the attention issue, fidgits, can't sit still, has a hard time concentrating on things, needs things explained over and over and broken down into simpliest terms, they get violent if you spank them!

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