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West Michigan

United States

#1 Aug 7, 2008
With the growing numbers of children being labeled ADD or ADHD, are they legitimate diagnosis or just an excuse for poor parenting or no parenting?
internet troll

United States

#2 Aug 7, 2008
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pjdutchville

United States

#3 Aug 7, 2008
West Michigan wrote:
With the growing numbers of children being labeled ADD or ADHD, are they legitimate diagnosis or just an excuse for poor parenting or no parenting?
.....blueberries are purple.

They are both waaaay overused in diagnosis. Doctors think Ritalin will cure every problem your child has.
web

Cleveland, OH

#4 Aug 7, 2008
Watch my son for a day..lol..Yea there are probally a lot of kids that shouldn't be on it, but there are kids that should be on it. Untill you have a child that is bouncing off the f-ing walls, keep your commets to yourself. As far as bad parenting come on give me a break. I don't let my son get away with sh*&. Why don't you go buy a phone for your child and let them go to the mall with the rest of the perfect kids and parents. By the way go LMB's.
MDG

Deerfield, IL

#5 Aug 7, 2008
web wrote:
Watch my son for a day..lol..Yea there are probally a lot of kids that shouldn't be on it, but there are kids that should be on it. Untill you have a child that is bouncing off the f-ing walls, keep your commets to yourself. As far as bad parenting come on give me a break. I don't let my son get away with sh*&. Why don't you go buy a phone for your child and let them go to the mall with the rest of the perfect kids and parents. By the way go LMB's.
I had to cut the hair of a child and mother that both had ADHD, it sucked!
I think you are correct in saying that not all children have it though.
hss

Glen Spey, NY

#6 Aug 7, 2008
web wrote:
Watch my son for a day..lol..Yea there are probally a lot of kids that shouldn't be on it, but there are kids that should be on it. Untill you have a child that is bouncing off the f-ing walls, keep your commets to yourself. As far as bad parenting come on give me a break. I don't let my son get away with sh*&. Why don't you go buy a phone for your child and let them go to the mall with the rest of the perfect kids and parents. By the way go LMB's.
If all you can do is turn out freaks, then you need to quit breeding. Try spanking them. Kids understand pain.
A break needed

Lansing, MI

#7 Aug 7, 2008
web wrote:
Watch my son for a day..lol..Yea there are probally a lot of kids that shouldn't be on it, but there are kids that should be on it. Untill you have a child that is bouncing off the f-ing walls, keep your commets to yourself. As far as bad parenting come on give me a break. I don't let my son get away with sh*&. Why don't you go buy a phone for your child and let them go to the mall with the rest of the perfect kids and parents. By the way go LMB's.
Do what you have to do. No one is in your shoes.
Just a thought

Denver, CO

#8 Aug 7, 2008
hss wrote:
<quoted text> If all you can do is turn out freaks, then you need to quit breeding. Try spanking them. Kids understand pain.
Get a clue! This is a actual disorder
. But yeah sometimes doctors are to quick to throw a kid on meds. But they are not freaks!!!!!!!!If I could I would jump through the PC and whoop your a**! And before you judge me or my comments I work in the medical profession I am a Surgical Technician, and have personal experiance with ADD?ADHD, my brother has it. And it does not go away with age, they just learn how to control it for the most part.
Sympathetic mom

Glen Spey, NY

#9 Aug 7, 2008
My son isn't on any drugs and hasn't been diagnosed with anything other than epilespy, but saying that he is "high energy" is an understatement. My other kids are not like him. He is not a bad kid, but he cannot sit still, focus, or concentrate. Even when he is sleeping his body twitches. It even frustrates him that he can't concentrate on one thing at time. He is way behind academically, but he is the sweetest, friendliest kid you could ever meet. I sympathize with parents who are frustrated and don't know where else to turn besides Ritalin. Hopefully, I won't have to turn to drugs, but how far behind do I let him get???(Spankings don't help kids like this, they only make them more violent when they have outbursts). There is no easy solution...
West Michigan

United States

#10 Aug 7, 2008
web wrote:
Watch my son for a day..lol..Yea there are probally a lot of kids that shouldn't be on it, but there are kids that should be on it. Untill you have a child that is bouncing off the f-ing walls, keep your commets to yourself. As far as bad parenting come on give me a break. I don't let my son get away with sh*&. Why don't you go buy a phone for your child and let them go to the mall with the rest of the perfect kids and parents. By the way go LMB's.
It has nothing to do with letting them 'getting away' with anything. Children from a very young age have to be taught what is acceptable behavior and what isn't acceptable. If you just scream 'NO' to them, they learn nothing. Parenting is a huge effort that all to many people are not willing to take on, much easier to pop a pill.
Tiger fan

Grand Rapids, MI

#11 Aug 7, 2008
I also have 2 boys with ADHD. Try watching them do their homework and get frustrated because they can not sit still. 3 years of trying everything before meds. One of the boys would walk around the table doing his math. If kids that really need the meds are not one them they will self medicate with other (sometimes illegal) methods. Caffine is a big one. Why are so many kids into the Red Bull and energy drinks? I agree with web, don't judge till you have lived it.
West Michigan

United States

#12 Aug 7, 2008
Sympathetic mom wrote:
My son isn't on any drugs and hasn't been diagnosed with anything other than epilespy, but saying that he is "high energy" is an understatement. My other kids are not like him. He is not a bad kid, but he cannot sit still, focus, or concentrate. Even when he is sleeping his body twitches. It even frustrates him that he can't concentrate on one thing at time. He is way behind academically, but he is the sweetest, friendliest kid you could ever meet. I sympathize with parents who are frustrated and don't know where else to turn besides Ritalin. Hopefully, I won't have to turn to drugs, but how far behind do I let him get???(Spankings don't help kids like this, they only make them more violent when they have outbursts). There is no easy solution...
And for children such as your son, you are right, spankings are not the thing to do. Children react to their environment and level of stimulation their mind tolerates. Once they get use to a very calm surrounding it will affect behavior. No loud music, sounds, etc and lots of steadfast rules.

“I dont want to be like her!”

Since: Jun 08

Hopkins Michigan

#13 Aug 7, 2008
My oldest was diagnoised adhd, he was a very busy little guy when he was young, you could say a hand full. The school requested me to take him and have him tested well it came back that he was, then the school wanted my other to children tested also. Well that didnt go like they plan and I refused to. My oldest was put on Ritalin for many years until I did some research and found out that Michigan was at the time #1 in prescribing Ritalin and that it is a child cocaine. I stopped the Ritalin my child gained weight and got taller and no more bloody noses. It required me to find more things for him to do and work alot hard with him.

Since: Jul 08

North of GR

#14 Aug 7, 2008
I think a lot has to do with diet, food allergies and/or lack of exercise. There are real cases but these items can cause hyperactivity and short attentin spans.

“Norwegian Blues stun easily!”

Since: Jun 08

United States

#15 Aug 7, 2008
ADD and ADHD are absolutely valid disorders. I think many times, kids that don't acutally have it do get diagnosed with it improperly and I can understand the frustration with that. However, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater - just because some kids are incorrectly diagnosed or medicated for it doesn't mean that the disorder doesn't exist or that it is a case of bad parenting. I think the discovery of ADD and ADHD along with it's subsequent discovery of medication has done more good than harm - there will always be misdiagnoses and even abuse of medication for any sickness or disorder, but it's fantastic that people who actually do suffer from it have an option to deal with it.

Of course, like many things, this is just my 2 cents.:)
Just a thought

Denver, CO

#16 Aug 7, 2008
EMTGirl wrote:
I think a lot has to do with diet, food allergies and/or lack of exercise. There are real cases but these items can cause hyperactivity and short attentin spans.
I agree with this comment. But in my brothers case the doctor (before he put in on meds) went to great lengths. They changed his diet, he came to our house to check out our home life, he couldn't change my brothers activity he lived outside, sunup to sundown.(except for school) The doctor even sent my brother for therapy, all before meds were given. Sadly it seems like they could figure out a cure so to speak. My brother went into the Navy which helped him a great deal, but he still has this disorder sadly, but not to the extent of when he was a child.
Just a thought

Denver, CO

#17 Aug 7, 2008
Another fact with ADD/ADHD is that it more prone in males then girls and can be passed onto offspring. My brother will probably give it to his children, sadly. And I could give it to my children even though I do have it, it is still within my genes, so my children could develop this disorder. Since the gene that causes ADD/ADHD came from one of my parents. As odd as it sounds.

“Let it snow!!!!!!”

Since: Apr 08

Shelbyville, MI

#18 Aug 7, 2008
EMTGirl wrote:
I think a lot has to do with diet, food allergies and/or lack of exercise. There are real cases but these items can cause hyperactivity and short attentin spans.
I think you are 100% correct!

When I was younger (I'm 40) kids were ALWAYS outside playing. Obviously we didn't video games or more than 3 channels so that helped.
We had "hyper" kids way back then, but instead of labeling them and putting them on Ritalin, we called them spazzes and threw them in the pond!! lol
That calmed them down.

Plus, I'm sure we ate better then. Mom's cooked more and we had fast food less.

So, yeah, I'm sure it has a lot to do with diet and lack of exercise.
Bad parenting?? Maybe. Get your fricken' kid outside. Take away Timmy's Nintendo DS for a while!
Sick of stupid people

Canton, MI

#19 Aug 7, 2008
It is over diagnosed. Period. We have a nephew that was out of control whenever he was with his mother. She NEVER disciplined him and temper tantrums would end in rewards. When he would stay with us however, he would have to follow house rules. When he realized temper tantrums and screaming would only land him in the time out chair, he quickly caught on. Unfortunately, his mother decided he was WAY easier to deal with while doped up on Ritalin. All he would do is sit and play video games for 12 hours straight. No going outside to play, no exercise, no social settings. This way she knew right where he was at all times and her job as a mother was a cake walk. He's now 16 and off of all drugs. He's a normal kid with a normal outlook on life. He never needed Ritalin, he needed parents that would be parents. Thanks for reading.
curious

Salt Lake City, UT

#20 Aug 7, 2008
Mustang393w wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you are 100% correct!
When I was younger (I'm 40) kids were ALWAYS outside playing. Obviously we didn't video games or more than 3 channels so that helped.
We had "hyper" kids way back then, but instead of labeling them and putting them on Ritalin, we called them spazzes and threw them in the pond!! lol
That calmed them down.
Plus, I'm sure we ate better then. Mom's cooked more and we had fast food less.
So, yeah, I'm sure it has a lot to do with diet and lack of exercise.
Bad parenting?? Maybe. Get your fricken' kid outside. Take away Timmy's Nintendo DS for a while!
I agree completely with everything you just said. I don't remember any of my classmates having any of these ADD/ADHD symptoms. There wasn't any fidgeting or not doing the homework. And yes, we all went out right afer school and played until it got dark. In winter, we'd play at each other's houses, usually in the basement, which were never finished. I never went to McDonald's (I think there was one back then, LOL), we ate fresh home-made meals. We did not drink pop at all. We didn't use artificial sweeteners. Most of us were breast fed for a long time. We never ate baby food. Mom would put regular food in a blender and we ate that. So basically, I'm thinking preservatives among other things.

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