Since: Feb 08

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#85 Nov 11, 2012
Bob wrote:
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With all due respect - it will continue to get worse until American workers are paid so little that even they can't afford to buy American products.
Until that time business owners will reap bigger and bigger profits and the employees will be asked to sacrifice more and more.
Good Day,

It is already happening thanks to "Obamacare". Several companies are telling us they will have to cut employees hours to cover the costs involved. Then people are calling to boycott those companies. HELLO! You aren't hurting the company as much as the employees by boycotting. The staff at the restaurant chains need those tips.

Steelie
to be announced

United States

#86 Nov 13, 2012
Really wrote:
<quoted text>And the Democratic Senate which refuses to consider anything the House sends to them. Do you want the link for Harry Reid's statement? How about his statement about refusing to work with Romney if Romney was elected? Do you want the link for that statement as well? As for everyone suffering, you will get what you voted for...a President who doesn't give a darn about anyone but the unions and himself. Get out your wallet, your taxes are going up in 2013 to pay for your foolishness. Unfortunately, the rest of us (nearly 50%) have to also pay for your foolishness, but you don't really care about that.
These left wingers don't even know how government works. Might as well give it up Really!

if they even understood the house ( of Representatives ) is where it all starts. It then gets voted on, and if approved sent on to the senate, and eventually to the President to sign.

Now if the senate refuses to even look at it ( DOA ) But yet somehow convince the sheep that it is the Republicans in the House's fault, well we are screwed!!

The senate cannot even begin without the house, and compromise is something else the left doesn't understand. Compromise works both ways, it is NEVER one sides fault. These knuckle draggers seem hell bent on blaming one President and one party, yet still want congress to work together? laughable at best!
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#88 Nov 13, 2012
Steelie wrote:
<quoted text>
Good Day,
It is already happening thanks to "Obamacare". Several companies are telling us they will have to cut employees hours to cover the costs involved. Then people are calling to boycott those companies. HELLO! You aren't hurting the company as much as the employees by boycotting. The staff at the restaurant chains need those tips.
Steelie
The point is that a boycott isn't needed. There comes a time when the workers won't make enough to afford these businesses products whether they want them or not.

It's not too hard to figure out that if a business owner whines about losing 3% of profits to higher taxes how bad an employee must be hurting when there private equity owners decide to force a 40% pay cut on them!

Since: Feb 08

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#89 Nov 13, 2012
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
The point is that a boycott isn't needed. There comes a time when the workers won't make enough to afford these businesses products whether they want them or not.
It's not too hard to figure out that if a business owner whines about losing 3% of profits to higher taxes how bad an employee must be hurting when there private equity owners decide to force a 40% pay cut on them!
Good Day,

You forgot the fines and or fees those employees will have to pay because Obamacare priced current coverage out. Extra costs they currently don't have taken out of their paycheck. Oh, and don't forget the 1099 debacle...

Steelie

Since: Oct 12

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#90 Nov 13, 2012
...Wonder how much and how long Corporate greed has been going on in this country? Never heard anything when Comcast was making huge profits, enough to buy NBC....is it, just an item we ignore?
Sassy

Grand Rapids, MI

#91 Nov 13, 2012
Do you mean that so much deregulation has gone on that monopoly's have occured. Remember when Ma Bell had to be split because of that?
Go Blue Forever wrote:
...Wonder how much and how long Corporate greed has been going on in this country? Never heard anything when Comcast was making huge profits, enough to buy NBC....is it, just an item we ignore?

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#92 Nov 13, 2012
Sassy wrote:
Do you mean that so much deregulation has gone on that monopoly's have occured. Remember when Ma Bell had to be split because of that?
<quoted text>
No...but it seems we all look the other way, when they are making record profits, year after year...then when something comes along that makes waves in their profit dreamscape, then they feel the need to effect legislation...a bit too one-way....
Really

Holland, MI

#93 Nov 13, 2012
And the whining about "Corporate Greed" continues. I will give Obama all the credit in the world. He did exactly what he wanted to do. He divided this country so deeply it may never be repaired. I raise my glass of scotch to him. "A country divided against itself cannot stand." Obama knows this and he has used it to his advantage. However, the half that disagrees with him? Somehow, I don't they are going away.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#94 Nov 13, 2012
Really wrote:
And the whining about "Corporate Greed" continues. I will give Obama all the credit in the world. He did exactly what he wanted to do. He divided this country so deeply it may never be repaired. I raise my glass of scotch to him. "A country divided against itself cannot stand." Obama knows this and he has used it to his advantage. However, the half that disagrees with him? Somehow, I don't they are going away.
Somehow, I don't they are going away. Really?

Just how many times have you raised that glass of scotch?
Really

Holland, MI

#95 Nov 13, 2012
Bob wrote:
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Somehow, I don't they are going away. Really?
Just how many times have you raised that glass of scotch?
Not enough, Bob, not enough. The 50% of Americans that don't agree with Obama are here to stay. So, perhaps you should learn how to put on your big boy pants and just deal with it? Or, you could continue with the whining about everyone that doesn't agree with you.

Since: Oct 12

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#96 Nov 14, 2012
...47%....symbolically significant....lol....
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#97 Nov 14, 2012
Really wrote:
<quoted text>Not enough, Bob, not enough. The 50% of Americans that don't agree with Obama are here to stay. So, perhaps you should learn how to put on your big boy pants and just deal with it? Or, you could continue with the whining about everyone that doesn't agree with you.
According to today's FAUX News website, the President's approval rating was at 51%. That's only 43 points higher than the approval rating for the teabagger led House.

BTW, not all of your phantom supporters want to stay, according to all the whiners who want to secede...... Unless of course you don't know what that really means!

Since: Oct 12

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#98 Nov 14, 2012
Bob wrote:
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According to today's FAUX News website, the President's approval rating was at 51%. That's only 43 points higher than the approval rating for the teabagger led House.
BTW, not all of your phantom supporters want to stay, according to all the whiners who want to secede...... Unless of course you don't know what that really means!
How self-important, can some people be? Don't they know, there are flights leaving the country daily?...Secede, what a joke....

Since: Feb 08

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#99 Nov 14, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>How self-important, can some people be? Don't they know, there are flights leaving the country daily?...Secede, what a joke....
Good Day,

Hey Blue! Not to be arguementative - but this whole secession thing really doesn't suprise me. I am not saying it will actually come to fruition but when we look at certain numbers the picture becomes clear. There are politicians, media personalities and members of the Administration (including POTUS) that almost immediately declared that the election was a "mandate". In fact, while Obama did win, he recieved nearly 9 million votes less than in 2008 and won the popular vote with 50.5% to Romney's 48%. Hardly a mandate or a landslide. Obama won the important States in terms of the electoral vote (NY, California, Ohio, etc.). And so he got re-elected.

Steelie
Really

Holland, MI

#100 Nov 14, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>How self-important, can some people be? Don't they know, there are flights leaving the country daily?...Secede, what a joke....
Careful what you wish for Blue. You could be left to pay the $16 Trillion debt yourself with your buddies. As for leaving the country, you don't like the Conservative/Republican thought process, YOU leave. The 47% of Americans who voted AGAINST Obama have the right to protest in any fashion they choose. Guess you and all your best buddies will just have to put on your big boy/girl pants and deal, won't you?

Since: Oct 12

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#101 Nov 15, 2012
Steelie wrote:
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Good Day,
Hey Blue! Not to be arguementative - but this whole secession thing really doesn't suprise me. I am not saying it will actually come to fruition but when we look at certain numbers the picture becomes clear. There are politicians, media personalities and members of the Administration (including POTUS) that almost immediately declared that the election was a "mandate". In fact, while Obama did win, he recieved nearly 9 million votes less than in 2008 and won the popular vote with 50.5% to Romney's 48%. Hardly a mandate or a landslide. Obama won the important States in terms of the electoral vote (NY, California, Ohio, etc.). And so he got re-elected.
Steelie
Steelie....please be anything, if not arguementative...lol....the only time i heard mandate mentioned, was Obama saying, the people wanted him to do a better job, and frankly i don't see any problem in that(BTW, Romney got an ironic 47%)....Between you and i, i am getting so tired, of waiting for someone to say the wrong thing....there is so much, that needs to be done in Washington, so much that need's bi-partisan cooperation...But you are right, these are big and important issues about this country's future.....And what do we get, in less than a week after both partie's agreeing to work together.....We get, John McCain and Lindsey Graham, at the microphone, screeching about how Susan Rice, might have misspoke about the origin of the Benghazi attack.....How disappointing, is that?

Since: Feb 08

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#102 Nov 15, 2012
Good Day,

Hey Blue... Graham and McCain are two RINOs that need to go. That said, I think they were wrong to attack Susan Rice so quickly and vehemently. However, I think it was a HUGE mistake by the administration to send her out there and fall on the spear. Any chances of her now becoming the next Secretary of State has been damaged.

One of the reasons I support term limits, Blue.

Steelie
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#103 Nov 15, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Steelie....please be anything, if not arguementative...lol....the only time i heard mandate mentioned, was Obama saying, the people wanted him to do a better job, and frankly i don't see any problem in that(BTW, Romney got an ironic 47%)....Between you and i, i am getting so tired, of waiting for someone to say the wrong thing....there is so much, that needs to be done in Washington, so much that need's bi-partisan cooperation...But you are right, these are big and important issues about this country's future.....And what do we get, in less than a week after both partie's agreeing to work together.....We get, John McCain and Lindsey Graham, at the microphone, screeching about how Susan Rice, might have misspoke about the origin of the Benghazi attack.....How disappointing, is that?
Oh, it gets even better.....

It seems that while numbnuts McCain was holding his press conference to demand more information on THE BENGHAZI DISASTER....

He passed on attending a two hour classified briefing...... On Benghazi!

This is the republican party at work!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/15/john...
Really

Grand Rapids, MI

#104 Nov 15, 2012
Bob wrote:
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Oh, it gets even better.....
It seems that while numbnuts McCain was holding his press conference to demand more information on THE BENGHAZI DISASTER....
He passed on attending a two hour classified briefing...... On Benghazi!
This is the republican party at work!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/15/john...
Yeah, Huffpo is a truly reliable source, Bob. You know how much you trust Fox and Breitbart? Well, Huffpo and NYT are two of the biggest frauds out there.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#105 Nov 16, 2012
Really wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, Huffpo is a truly reliable source, Bob. You know how much you trust Fox and Breitbart? Well, Huffpo and NYT are two of the biggest frauds out there.
Yeah, right....

So here are two other sources.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/838...

I'm sure that you won't accept either source, so I will gladly accept your source that proves that this same story, spread across numerous news sources, is a flat out lie.

Show us proof that McCain did go to that meeting, or better yet, how about proof that it never happened and is a flat out lie by the media to slander a great american war hero that would have done better to pass on that bailing out option!

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