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#45 Nov 3, 2012
Elephant Gun wrote:
<quoted text>Your clueless as well. bush demolished a surplus and ran deficits in his first year and they continued to increase 8 years running.
Just imagine, though delusional thinking, may be in vogue, on this forum....the Reich's lying about the President, will be outta style, in only 4 days, as he earn's his second term....and there's not a thing, all their partisan belly-acheing can do.....
Really

Grand Rapids, MI

#46 Nov 3, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Just imagine, though delusional thinking, may be in vogue, on this forum....the Reich's lying about the President, will be outta style, in only 4 days, as he earn's his second term....and there's not a thing, all their partisan belly-acheing can do.....
And what are you going to do if he loses?? Apologize for all the profanity and lies you told???? I rather doubt that you would be man enough to apologize for your lies. Once again, you and your thought process are NOT the majority in this country.

“Russian ties?”

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#47 Nov 3, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Just imagine, though delusional thinking, may be in vogue, on this forum....the Reich's lying about the President, will be outta style, in only 4 days, as he earn's his second term....and there's not a thing, all their partisan belly-acheing can do.....
All of the "belly-acheing" seems to come from you,..and your progressive buddies on here.
Still blaming Bush for everything!
It's like a broken record.
What about all of the jobs Obama sent oversea's with his so called "stimulus" plan?
You whine, and whine about Bain, but refuse to admit to the fact that your beloved messiah has sent way more job's overseas that Bain ever did!
But thats O-K in libbieland!

Since: Sep 07

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#48 Nov 3, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Just imagine, though delusional thinking, may be in vogue, on this forum....the Reich's lying about the President, will be outta style, in only 4 days, as he earn's his second term....and there's not a thing, all their partisan belly-acheing can do.....
Yeah, that's delusional thinking, alright

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#49 Nov 3, 2012
Gville Jim wrote:
<quoted text>All of the "belly-acheing" seems to come from you,..and your progressive buddies on here.
Still blaming Bush for everything!
It's like a broken record.
What about all of the jobs Obama sent oversea's with his so called "stimulus" plan?
You whine, and whine about Bain, but refuse to admit to the fact that your beloved messiah has sent way more job's overseas that Bain ever did!
But thats O-K in libbieland!
Jim, he'd blame FDR if he could
SOS in Mesa

Phoenix, AZ

#50 Nov 4, 2012
Lucy in Rockford wrote:
<quoted text>
Jim, he'd blame FDR if he could
Probably not, he was a democrat.

“Russian ties?”

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#51 Nov 4, 2012
SOS in Mesa wrote:
<quoted text>Probably not, he was a democrat.
Agreed. Blue would Never blame a democrat.
Even while Obama was in the democratic controlled Senate during the last two years of the Bush presidency, and when presant, Obama voted for all of the spending bills that helped get us in the so-called "mess" it is still Bush's fault!
What Obama inherited was the mess that he himself helped cause.
Blue, much like Obama, continue to put the blame on republicans, when they really should be looking at the actions of their own party.
Just look at the dozens of jobs bills stalled in the Senate!
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Grand Rapids, MI

#52 Nov 5, 2012
yes everything is Bush's fault because he was president, according to to the left nuts.

But now That Obama is President it is the House's fault. The Senate is perfect, except for those nasty right wingers.....

Sarcasm suspended for now!
Elephant Gun

Three Rivers, MI

#53 Nov 9, 2012
Steelie wrote:
<quoted text>
Good Day,
News alert. There was no surplus.
Steelie
If not then why was your boi newty trying to take credit for it during the primaries? Newty had nothing to do with the surplus. Oh and there was a surplus. You must be reading forbes distroted denial version of the truth
Really

Grand Rapids, MI

#54 Nov 9, 2012
Elephant Gun wrote:
<quoted text>If not then why was your boi newty trying to take credit for it during the primaries? Newty had nothing to do with the surplus. Oh and there was a surplus. You must be reading forbes distroted denial version of the truth
If you were as educated as you boast you are, you would be able to find the truth for yourself on the government's own website. We know, however, that wouldn't fit with your revisionist history agenda, so carry on.

Since: Feb 08

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#55 Nov 9, 2012
Elephant Gun wrote:
<quoted text>If not then why was your boi newty trying to take credit for it during the primaries? Newty had nothing to do with the surplus. Oh and there was a surplus. You must be reading forbes distroted denial version of the truth
Good Day,

Facts:

As of 2001 we have the following numbers.

Public Debt:$3.339310T $66.0B (Down from $230 B)

Intra-Government Holdings:$2.468153T (Up $199.3B)

Total National Debt:$5.807463T (Up $133.3B)

Link: http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16

Steelie
Sassy

Grand Rapids, MI

#56 Nov 9, 2012
Does anyone really know what has become of the lower wages? IMO companies have been bought out from foreign companies and forced it be it union or not. Rapistan is a perfect example. Cousins worked there for over 20 years. After Rapistan was bought out they layed off tons of workers, then to the union employees, it was either take a 50% rate cut and pay 50% more for benefits after 20 years. After years of helping this company grow they get this. Yet the consistat blame on the current President for this is stupid. This happened prior to this administration. It has become the norm to hire temps and keep them temps for years. It used to be that temps could only be temps for a short time, and you could hire them or not. That is not how it works anymore. Steelcase is another example of this. They don't hire anymore either. They use Temps so they don't have to pay benefits. I know people that have been temps for years, even though they do good jobs, the company won't hire in so they don't have to give benefits. This has been going on since well before Obamacare.

Since: Feb 08

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#57 Nov 9, 2012
Sassy wrote:
Does anyone really know what has become of the lower wages? IMO companies have been bought out from foreign companies and forced it be it union or not. Rapistan is a perfect example. Cousins worked there for over 20 years. After Rapistan was bought out they layed off tons of workers, then to the union employees, it was either take a 50% rate cut and pay 50% more for benefits after 20 years. After years of helping this company grow they get this. Yet the consistat blame on the current President for this is stupid. This happened prior to this administration. It has become the norm to hire temps and keep them temps for years. It used to be that temps could only be temps for a short time, and you could hire them or not. That is not how it works anymore. Steelcase is another example of this. They don't hire anymore either. They use Temps so they don't have to pay benefits. I know people that have been temps for years, even though they do good jobs, the company won't hire in so they don't have to give benefits. This has been going on since well before Obamacare.
Good Day,

With all due respect - it is only going to get worse with "Obamacare".

Steelie

Since: Oct 12

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#58 Nov 10, 2012
...Gez, as if four years of threats and fear-mongering was'nt enough....now eight years....
Really

Grand Rapids, MI

#59 Nov 10, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
...Gez, as if four years of threats and fear-mongering was'nt enough....now eight years....
What threats and fear mongering? There have been enough links put up proving the points to keep you busy for 6 months just reading. Apparently because they don't agree with you, you can't be bothered to read them?? I guess the ostrich syndrome is still alive and well. Good for you! Enjoy yourself.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#60 Nov 10, 2012
Steelie wrote:
<quoted text>
Good Day,
With all due respect - it is only going to get worse with "Obamacare".
Steelie
With all due respect - it will continue to get worse until American workers are paid so little that even they can't afford to buy American products.

Until that time business owners will reap bigger and bigger profits and the employees will be asked to sacrifice more and more.
Mark

Rockford, MI

#61 Nov 10, 2012
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
With all due respect - it will continue to get worse until American workers are paid so little that even they can't afford to buy American products.
Until that time business owners will reap bigger and bigger profits and the employees will be asked to sacrifice more and more.
you dunbass. The American workers are never going to get paid with all this cheap labor coming across the border everyday in legal and illegal immigration...and your side is the one that supports it...for votes.

The other side of the equation is trade agreements that push manufacturing to 3rd world countries.

Keep voting democrap
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#62 Nov 10, 2012
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>you dunbass. The American workers are never going to get paid with all this cheap labor coming across the border everyday in legal and illegal immigration...and your side is the one that supports it...for votes.
The other side of the equation is trade agreements that push manufacturing to 3rd world countries.
Keep voting democrap
No matter how hard I tried, you're trying to put the bagger back in the tea party!

Since: Oct 12

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#63 Nov 10, 2012
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
No matter how hard I tried, you're trying to put the bagger back in the tea party!
At least, most of us, dunbass democrap's know, we are #1 in manufacturing.....
Mark

Rockford, MI

#64 Nov 10, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>At least, most of us, dunbass democrap's know, we are #1 in manufacturing.....
how many people have gotten their pinkslips in the last 4 days? Hard to keep employing the ever expanding populace with less and less employers huh?
I see youve put on your spelling nazi hat....yes dumbass democraps. so much for chores.

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