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7 Million Obamacare Enrollee Goal? EPIC FAIL

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Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#1 Feb 21, 2014
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/201...

["I think success looks like at least 7 million people having signed up by the end of March 2014,"Sebelius said during an interview with NBC News...
The White House has been slowly backing away from that number as health exchanges around the country continue to fail and as few people show interest in the program.

Even Ol Joe "Gaffe Machine" Biden escaped from his cage long enough to admit Obamacare's failure: "We may not get to seven million, we may get to five or six, but that's a hell of a start."]

You've barely crested 3 million, Joe, and that doesn't even detail out how many of those haven't even paid for their coverage.

[Keep in mind the definition of enrolled is a broad one. The federal government counts people putting Obamacare plans in their online shopping carts as "enrolled" before they pay for the plan or check out. According to insurers, 20 percent of people who fully signed up have failed to pay their first month's premium.]

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#2 Feb 21, 2014
Oneal wrote:
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/k atiepavlich/2014/02/20/biden-t hat-7-million-obamacare-enroll ee-goal-is-probably-not-going- to-happen-n1797884
["I think success looks like at least 7 million people having signed up by the end of March 2014,"Sebelius said during an interview with NBC News...
The White House has been slowly backing away from that number as health exchanges around the country continue to fail and as few people show interest in the program.
Even Ol Joe "Gaffe Machine" Biden escaped from his cage long enough to admit Obamacare's failure: "We may not get to seven million, we may get to five or six, but that's a hell of a start."]
You've barely crested 3 million, Joe, and that doesn't even detail out how many of those haven't even paid for their coverage.
[Keep in mind the definition of enrolled is a broad one. The federal government counts people putting Obamacare plans in their online shopping carts as "enrolled" before they pay for the plan or check out. According to insurers, 20 percent of people who fully signed up have failed to pay their first month's premium.]
It's beginning to appear that obama is counting every sucker that even looks at the aca web page as another signup. The numbers are so jaded it's ridiculous.
I'm hoping the insurance companies will step up and give us some real numbers in spite of the probable threats from obama to not pay them under the table the money they will lose if they reveal the truth to the American Public. So far they have been rather quiet which is not a good sign. Unfortunately, obama guaranteed to pay them any loss they incur and they certainly don't want to give that up by revealing the truth.

It's complicated but appears to be the normal situation with regard to either political party and their apparent endless list of associates.

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#3 Feb 21, 2014
Over six million people have had their health insurance policies cancelled due to "Obama Care".
If one were to assume that all of them have enrolled in Obama Care, that would mean that there are only one million "new" enrollees in the plan.
Doesn't really seem like numbers that they would want to brag about.
And what about the age of these new enrollees?
In order for it to work, they need young healthy people to sign up and pay all that money for it, in order to provide insurance for the elderly.
I doubt that is happening.
Thank goodness for employer provided health care, and I don't have to deal with that mess!
I feel sorry for those who have lost their health insurance and have to deal with this mess..
Really

Grand Rapids, MI

#4 Feb 21, 2014
As usual, they (the progressives) first made it mandatory for companies to cover employees' children up to age 26 irrespective of whether said children were able to procure insurance of their own through their own employers. THEN they said, "Wait, we want you to subsidize all the other people that we are going to force to buy insurance." And now they can't figure out why the young people are not buying their load of BS? And Michelle apparently decided that to encourage said young people to purchase insurance through the exchanges and websites, she would go on national TV and call them "knuckleheads"?? Apparently another "new normal" is to insult those you want to follow you blindly?? Guess they are going to find out they have screwed the wrong pooch this time, eh????
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#6 Feb 22, 2014
Gville Jim wrote:
Over six million people have had their health insurance policies cancelled due to "Obama Care".
If one were to assume that all of them have enrolled in Obama Care, that would mean that there are only one million "new" enrollees in the plan.
Doesn't really seem like numbers that they would want to brag about.
And what about the age of these new enrollees?
In order for it to work, they need young healthy people to sign up and pay all that money for it, in order to provide insurance for the elderly.
I doubt that is happening.
Thank goodness for employer provided health care, and I don't have to deal with that mess!
I feel sorry for those who have lost their health insurance and have to deal with this mess..
When the bill comes due for all this you can kiss your employer-provided health care goodbye, Jim. That's been the plan all along. Obama just extended the timeline past the upcoming elections to minimize the immense unpopularity that will result from people who have worked all their lives and paid taxes realizing they're being forced to sign up for a far more expensive, far less quality health plan.

The progressives just want their lie to remain hidden until they elect the next barking moonbat talking head celebrity. The only thing that will change the course we're on is enough Americans pulling their heads out of their keisters and electing these progressive radicals out of office.
pipedream

New York, NY

#7 Feb 22, 2014
Gville Jim wrote:
Over six million people have had their health insurance policies cancelled due to "Obama Care".
Right. people had their junk policies cancelled. 80% of them would have had their policies cancelled regardless of the ACA. Insurance companies routinely cancel policies, especially the junk policies zero's like you bought thinking they had health insurance. That is a well established fact Jimbo.

Guess having a junk policy cancelled is only a big deal to the millions out there as stupid as you Trailer Park Jim.
pipedream

New York, NY

#8 Feb 22, 2014
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
It's beginning to appear that obama is counting every sucker that even looks at the aca web page as another signup. The numbers are so jaded it's ridiculous.
I'm hoping the insurance companies will step up and give us some real numbers in spite of the probable threats from obama to not pay them under the table the money they will lose if they reveal the truth to the American Public. So far they have been rather quiet which is not a good sign. Unfortunately, obama guaranteed to pay them any loss they incur and they certainly don't want to give that up by revealing the truth.
It's complicated but appears to be the normal situation with regard to either political party and their apparent endless list of associates.
You made a number of claims alleging the numbers of signups are phoney, other lies, secret pay offs to name a few. How about providing some proof Wiggles? Baseless claims rumor, and innuendo is all you have but you can't resist flapping your big mouth on here. You're the guy always demanding proof but you never provide any. Typical bagger.

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#9 Feb 23, 2014
pipedream wrote:
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You made a number of claims alleging the numbers of signups are phoney, other lies, secret pay offs to name a few. How about providing some proof Wiggles? Baseless claims rumor, and innuendo is all you have but you can't resist flapping your big mouth on here. You're the guy always demanding proof but you never provide any. Typical bagger.
The only proof we have to this point are the numbers given to us by the obama administration and his cronies. They have offered no proof those numbers are correct so I'd say the burden of proof falls on the original parties making the claims that so far appear to be skewed. This would be normal for someone (obama) who is so desperate to make aca work he has repeatedly changed the law by delaying and modifying requirements and of course the proof that "if you like your current plan and doctor you can keep them" comment that was a lie will echo itself forever. Proof of that is public record.
Unfortunately for you, obama lied from the start of aca and that has forever tarnished his credibility which puts a much larger burden of accuracy and proof on him and those that support him.
It is also very suspicious that obama is also using the FCC to try to monitor what news we get. Actually we should all be very very concerned as this is starting to look like the media are going to be controlled just like many communist and islamic ruled countries.
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#10 Feb 23, 2014
pipedream wrote:
<quoted text>
Right. people had their junk policies cancelled. 80% of them would have had their policies cancelled regardless of the ACA. Insurance companies routinely cancel policies, especially the junk policies zero's like you bought thinking they had health insurance. That is a well established fact Jimbo.
Guess having a junk policy cancelled is only a big deal to the millions out there as stupid as you Trailer Park Jim.
"If you like your plan you can keep your plan."
Go find the millions of people who's insurance was cancelled and prove that they would have had their policies cancelled regardless of Humptycare.
No one recalls the promise Obama made to the American people being, "If you like your current plan, AND WE DEMOCRATS FEEL IT'S RIGHT FOR YOU, you can keep your plan."
You're always prancing around here angrily asking people who they think they are. Well, you little hypocrite, who do you and the democrats think you are creating a law based on a lie and then arrogantly defending it by saying, "well, we know better than you what policy is right for you, so just STFU and pay your higher premiums regardless of what Obama promised" ???

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#11 Feb 23, 2014
Why has the Democratic Party become so arrogantly detached from ordinary Americans? Though they claim to speak for the poor and dispossessed, Democrats have increasingly become the party of an upper-middle-class professional elite, top-heavy with journalists, academics and lawyers.
Camille Paglia

Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/c/c...

And she is no conservative..
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#12 Feb 23, 2014
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
Why has the Democratic Party become so arrogantly detached from ordinary Americans? Though they claim to speak for the poor and dispossessed, Democrats have increasingly become the party of an upper-middle-class professional elite, top-heavy with journalists, academics and lawyers.
Camille Paglia
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/c/c...
And she is no conservative..
Because they've tapped into a weak, ignorant and submissive segment of our society that lies down like doormats for elitists like Obama and the Clintons to scrape their boots free of mud on their way to riches and power. Pipedream and Bob are prime examples of their favorite mark - uneducated, unsuccessful, unhappy, social outcasts who've failed to take care of themselves despite every opportunity afforded by those of us who continue to drag them along like filthy anchors.

Do you really think Obama gives a damn about gays? Remember, back when he didn't need their vote he didn't support their cause. Do you really think some rich, radical, power-hungry elitist like Hillary Clinton gives a hoot about some homosexual Michigan dirtstick like pipedream's existence beyond assuring he's stupid enough to pull the lever for her? Do you think either give a damn about common workers when neither has worked an honest day on their lives and will never have to? They pay people to drive them around and make their meals. They earned that power not from working a job, creating a product, or doing a hard day's work. They're ruling class politicians.

If they have to grant them a few token rights to the starving masses that vote for them in the process, so be it ... let them eat crumbs.

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#13 Feb 23, 2014
pipedream wrote:
<quoted text>
Right. people had their junk policies cancelled. 80% of them would have had their policies cancelled regardless of the ACA. Insurance companies routinely cancel policies, especially the junk policies zero's like you bought thinking they had health insurance. That is a well established fact Jimbo.
Guess having a junk policy cancelled is only a big deal to the millions out there as stupid as you Trailer Park Jim.
What about Obama's promise that if you like your health insurance policy, you can keep it? Also, if you like your doctor, you can keep them.

"especially the junk policies zero's like you bought thinking they had health insurance."

I didn't have to go out and buy a policy, it is provided by my employer. What do you know about the insurance policies of those that had theirs cancelled?
Are you going to go out and sign up for Obama care, or just stay on your mom's policy as long as you can?
My guess is that you will continue to be one of those that abuses the system, and goes to the E.R. for your health care instead of getting insurance.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Fenton, MI

#14 Feb 23, 2014
pipedream wrote:
<quoted text>
Right. people had their junk policies cancelled. 80% of them would have had their policies cancelled regardless of the ACA. Insurance companies routinely cancel policies, especially the junk policies zero's like you bought thinking they had health insurance. That is a well established fact Jimbo.
Guess having a junk policy cancelled is only a big deal to the millions out there as stupid as you Trailer Park Jim.
Had a great policy that was not junk....... You are a mental case who feeds off the makers of this country........ Prove your worth to this society or the Progressive will eventually get rid of you....... Hey! That never happened in the National Socialist Workers Party........ You need help........ And stop touching yourself........
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#15 Feb 24, 2014
I see a full repeal any day now......

It should only take another 4-5K threads!
Oneal

Three Rivers, MI

#16 Feb 24, 2014
Bob wrote:
I see a full repeal any day now......
It should only take another 4-5K threads!
Blah blah blah ....

Stay classless, progressives. It's not the 4-5k threads that you need to fear, it's the 4-5 million previous Obama supporters who will have their insurance cancelled and have to pay far more for a policy they don't want, while being told , "we lied to you, but really we know what's best for you and your family, so just STFU".

The mid-terms are approaching, and I don't think another astro-turfed Trayvon race-baiting gimmick by the Party of Skin Color is going to negate the impact on voters' wallets that Obamacare is currently inflicting.

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#17 Feb 24, 2014
Oneal wrote:
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Because they've tapped into a weak, ignorant and submissive segment of our society that lies down like doormats for elitists like Obama and the Clintons to scrape their boots free of mud on their way to riches and power. Pipedream and Bob are prime examples of their favorite mark - uneducated, unsuccessful, unhappy, social outcasts who've failed to take care of themselves despite every opportunity afforded by those of us who continue to drag them along like filthy anchors.
Do you really think Obama gives a damn about gays? Remember, back when he didn't need their vote he didn't support their cause. Do you really think some rich, radical, power-hungry elitist like Hillary Clinton gives a hoot about some homosexual Michigan dirtstick like pipedream's existence beyond assuring he's stupid enough to pull the lever for her? Do you think either give a damn about common workers when neither has worked an honest day on their lives and will never have to? They pay people to drive them around and make their meals. They earned that power not from working a job, creating a product, or doing a hard day's work. They're ruling class politicians.
If they have to grant them a few token rights to the starving masses that vote for them in the process, so be it ... let them eat crumbs.
I posted that quote because there are people like Camille who know what is really going on. Its a facade created by the democrats and their to fool the millions of people who really pay no attention, they think BHO cares because they think or have been told by the media that he came from humble beginnings and knows what it is like to live in poverty of course it is and always was a lie. Now we have a law PP/ACA that really no one not even congress knows the full extent because the rules and regs. are being written as we go along. This thing is going to rear its ugly head soon and then watch the media scramble to protect the one. Hey all he did was sign it the rest will fall back on one of his cronies. The creep in chief will finally be shown as the fraud he is but it will be to late for the rest of us..
Oneal

Three Rivers, MI

#18 Feb 24, 2014
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
<quoted text>I posted that quote because there are people like Camille who know what is really going on. Its a facade created by the democrats and their to fool the millions of people who really pay no attention, they think BHO cares because they think or have been told by the media that he came from humble beginnings and knows what it is like to live in poverty of course it is and always was a lie. Now we have a law PP/ACA that really no one not even congress knows the full extent because the rules and regs. are being written as we go along. This thing is going to rear its ugly head soon and then watch the media scramble to protect the one. Hey all he did was sign it the rest will fall back on one of his cronies. The creep in chief will finally be shown as the fraud he is but it will be to late for the rest of us..
It's a matter of wresting senatorial control from these barking moon bats. The media and the throngs of uneducated skin-color voters can sit and spin at that point. Obama will have his proverbial pen and phone shoved up his keister until he's unceremoniously booted from the White House. Then it's on to the net dilemma...
Unless the republicans can find a way to combat the liberal media in promoting their ideas they stand little hope of winning a primary election. The left is content on running a bitchy, saggy, pasty Hillary Clinton in hopes of pandering to the female voter - so we can expect the news to be flooded with heroic Hillary tales and more astro-turfed "war on women" shinola, similar to the ginned-up media frenzy over poor little Trayvon getting popped by a "white hispanic" guy.
It's as predictable as Obamacare falling well short of their 7 million enrollee goal, but it starts with another midterm waxing of the progressive Party of Liars.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#19 Feb 25, 2014
Oneal wrote:
<quoted text>
Blah blah blah ....
Stay classless, progressives. It's not the 4-5k threads that you need to fear, it's the 4-5 million previous Obama supporters who will have their insurance cancelled and have to pay far more for a policy they don't want, while being told , "we lied to you, but really we know what's best for you and your family, so just STFU".
The mid-terms are approaching, and I don't think another astro-turfed Trayvon race-baiting gimmick by the Party of Skin Color is going to negate the impact on voters' wallets that Obamacare is currently inflicting.
In other words, the countless whining threads aren't doing any good, but you still have to keep creating them to earn your Koch Sucker Bucks

I've also noticed that you've given up on those brave NAVY SEALS. Must be the pay wasn't as good!
Oneal

Three Rivers, MI

#20 Feb 25, 2014
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
In other words, the countless whining threads aren't doing any good, but you still have to keep creating them to earn your Koch Sucker Bucks
I've also noticed that you've given up on those brave NAVY SEALS. Must be the pay wasn't as good!
LOL ... how are the Bush/Cheney war crime witch hunts going again?? Oh yea ... I guess you guys just retreated back to whining like pussies again!

As for the Benghazi victims, no doubt their bravery will be front and center when Swillary is standing before the American people blathering angrily away about 4am phone calls. Oh ... well, that ploy might not go over too well this time either.

Maybe she can arrogantly pitch the success of Obamacare?... oops!

I guess she can just go back to her "It takes a village" crap.

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#21 Feb 25, 2014
They count every "hit" on the website as a new "enrollee".
There is no proof that everyone that got through on the website actually signed up. And the fact is, if they have not PAID for it, they don't HAVE it.
Sad thing is, is that these 7 million people that were able to get on to the website are Obama supporters that are looking for the free health care that he promised them. Now that they learn that it's going to cost them a lot of money that they were expecting for free, they don't actually sign up for it.
I bet a lot of them are still waiting for their free obama phones.
It's sad that people fall for these lies, and cast their vote in the belief that those lies are the truth.

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