Michigan Sued Over Gay Marriage from New York

Jun 12, 2014 Full story: WILX-TV Lansing 221

Two men in the Grand Rapids area are suing to try to force Michigan to recognize their same-sex marriage performed in New York state.

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“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

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#1 Jun 12, 2014
The "Full Faith and Credit" clause of the U.S. Constitution requires each state to legally recognize the acts of every other state. There are NO exceptions.
TheKaisho

Grand Rapids, MI

#2 Jun 13, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
The "Full Faith and Credit" clause of the U.S. Constitution requires each state to legally recognize the acts of every other state. There are NO exceptions.
So, according to your interpretation of the Constitution, if South Carolina resurrects slavery, Michigan is required to recognize that?

Sounds like the gays are not only sodomizing each other, they're also sodomizing the Constitution.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Howard City, MI

#3 Jun 13, 2014
They are getting paid to do this.

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#4 Jun 13, 2014
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
They are getting paid to do this.
Really?? Support?? Evidence of this claim??
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#5 Jun 13, 2014
Michigan is so broke; it will have to sell Grand Rapid's water tower on craigslist to pay the lawyers fees
.
Republicanism doesn't pay
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Howard City, MI

#6 Jun 13, 2014
eJohn wrote:
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Really?? Support?? Evidence of this claim??
Elementary my dear eJohn, who I haven't seen on this forum before and must be trolling all the gay community related topics. These guys move here from NY get a house while one guy has inoperable brain cancer so. They have resources for an attorney and for bringing this suit on top of MEDICAL EXPENSES. Property taxes come along and paying the premium for the ACA since they have enough income. That means they don't get subsides. The obvious question is how do they do it? Outside resources from an activist group. If the partner wants rights there are legal documents that can give him authority to make decisions at the CLERKS office that are next to nothing in cost. A lot less hassle than clogging the court with something that has solutions.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#7 Jun 13, 2014
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>Elementary my dear eJohn, who I haven't seen on this forum before and must be trolling all the gay community related topics. These guys move here from NY get a house while one guy has inoperable brain cancer so. They have resources for an attorney and for bringing this suit on top of MEDICAL EXPENSES. Property taxes come along and paying the premium for the ACA since they have enough income. That means they don't get subsides. The obvious question is how do they do it? Outside resources from an activist group. If the partner wants rights there are legal documents that can give him authority to make decisions at the CLERKS office that are next to nothing in cost. A lot less hassle than clogging the court with something that has solutions.
With more than 2 TRILLION annual disposable income; gays have plenty of jack; Jack
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_money
.
We would buy the whole cheap-a$$ state of Michigan and give it a fabulous rainbow makeover if it wasn't loaded down with hissy-fit pitching homophobic evangelical fundamentalist republican morons dragging society to the ash heap
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#8 Jun 13, 2014
TheKaisho wrote:
<quoted text>
So, according to your interpretation of the Constitution, if South Carolina resurrects slavery, Michigan is required to recognize that?
Sounds like the gays are not only sodomizing each other, they're also sodomizing the Constitution.
Sodomy schodomy; if only South Carolina could be so lucky
.
South Carolina is powered by economic slavery to this day
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It is a labor intensive agricultural and industrial sweat-shop state with only enough money to keep the ATM machines running until noon on sunny days
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Would you like to purchase Pay Per Stop Traffic Light Meters for Detroit?
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South Carolina will give you a good deal in trade for some new turnip trucks for public transportation
South Beach

Miami, FL

#9 Jun 13, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
The "Full Faith and Credit" clause of the U.S. Constitution requires each state to legally recognize the acts of every other state. There are NO exceptions.
Good thing for the "evil" Democrats (as you would say) who are the only one's pushing for equality .

I have only seen hate coming from your "less" government conservatives .

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#10 Jun 13, 2014
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>Elementary my dear eJohn, who I haven't seen on this forum before and must be trolling all the gay community related topics. These guys move here from NY get a house while one guy has inoperable brain cancer so. They have resources for an attorney and for bringing this suit on top of MEDICAL EXPENSES. Property taxes come along and paying the premium for the ACA since they have enough income. That means they don't get subsides. The obvious question is how do they do it? Outside resources from an activist group. If the partner wants rights there are legal documents that can give him authority to make decisions at the CLERKS office that are next to nothing in cost. A lot less hassle than clogging the court with something that has solutions.
Trolling the gay community related topics?? Okay. Whatever.

You much have either read a different article than I did, or you were smoking some serious good stuff when you read it. I didn't see ANY of that information you're bringing into the discussion in the article that *I* read. Where did you dream all that stuff up from??

My husband and I were married in New York, too, and we would LOVE to have our marriage recognized by the State of Michigan. Does that mean someone is paying me to say that??
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#11 Jun 13, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
The "Full Faith and Credit" clause of the U.S. Constitution requires each state to legally recognize the acts of every other state. There are NO exceptions.
There are exceptions. While I don't think the FFCC applies to marriage the fact is that all Michigan must do is recognize that these men were married in New York. But states can refuse, by virtue of the public policy exception, to “enforce” those same records. The public policy exception, traditionally limited to public acts, therefore applies to the full
spectrum of state records covered by the Clause.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Howard City, MI

#12 Jun 13, 2014
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
With more than 2 TRILLION annual disposable income; gays have plenty of jack; Jack
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_money
.
We would buy the whole cheap-a$$ state of Michigan and give it a fabulous rainbow makeover if it wasn't loaded down with hissy-fit pitching homophobic evangelical fundamentalist republican morons dragging society to the ash heap
Did I say I was against the Homo community? Did I miss something here. Do gays have some kind of magic beans that makes them immune from organizing? No

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

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#13 Jun 13, 2014
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
There are exceptions. While I don't think the FFCC applies to marriage the fact is that all Michigan must do is recognize that these men were married in New York. But states can refuse, by virtue of the public policy exception, to “enforce” those same records. The public policy exception, traditionally limited to public acts, therefore applies to the full
spectrum of state records covered by the Clause.
The U.S. Constitution states in Article IV, Section 1:

"Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof."

Now please point out where it says "except for public policy exceptions". Please point that out for me. READ THE PLAIN TEXT ! The U.S. Constitution SAYS WHAT IT MEANS AND MEANS WHAT IT SAYS. No more, and no less.

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#14 Jun 13, 2014
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>Elementary my dear eJohn, who I haven't seen on this forum before and must be trolling all the gay community related topics. These guys move here from NY get a house while one guy has inoperable brain cancer so. They have resources for an attorney and for bringing this suit on top of MEDICAL EXPENSES. Property taxes come along and paying the premium for the ACA since they have enough income. That means they don't get subsides. The obvious question is how do they do it? Outside resources from an activist group. If the partner wants rights there are legal documents that can give him authority to make decisions at the CLERKS office that are next to nothing in cost. A lot less hassle than clogging the court with something that has solutions.
So wait--you're not going to support all your fantastic claims that aren't mentioned at all in the story??? No source for all this who-ha about MEDICAL EXPENSES and the ACA??? C'mon, now! Don't get us all excited and then drop it like that! Enquiring minds want to know!!
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#15 Jun 13, 2014
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>Did I say I was against the Homo community? Did I miss something here. Do gays have some kind of magic beans that makes them immune from organizing? No
Because you're posting in the TOPIX Gay/Lesbian chat room you can expect gay-centric responses to your posts; sugar
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#16 Jun 13, 2014
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
There are exceptions. While I don't think the FFCC applies to marriage the fact is that all Michigan must do is recognize that these men were married in New York. But states can refuse, by virtue of the public policy exception, to “enforce” those same records. The public policy exception, traditionally limited to public acts, therefore applies to the full
spectrum of state records covered by the Clause.
FFCC is most certainly applicable where the checkmark meets the 'married' box on IRS tax returns; sugar
.
The states will just have to knuckle under and face reality
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So will you ;o)
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#17 Jun 13, 2014
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>Did I say I was against the Homo community? Did I miss something here. Do gays have some kind of magic beans that makes them immune from organizing? No
We were born organized
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#18 Jun 13, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
The U.S. Constitution states in Article IV, Section 1:
"Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof."
Now please point out where it says "except for public policy exceptions". Please point that out for me. READ THE PLAIN TEXT ! The U.S. Constitution SAYS WHAT IT MEANS AND MEANS WHAT IT SAYS. No more, and no less.
Believe what you want to. Just don't do any research, you'll be disappointed.
The constitution is and always was open to interpretation. Why was the law instituted in the first place? How has it evolved? What do gays want to use it for these days? The fact is that Michigan has no obligation beyond recognizing that these men were married in New York. So they are married in New York, they should move there.

"Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. Yup, each state recognizes that they were married in New York. Period.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Brighton, MI

#19 Jun 13, 2014
eJohn wrote:
<quoted text>
Trolling the gay community related topics?? Okay. Whatever.
You much have either read a different article than I did, or you were smoking some serious good stuff when you read it. I didn't see ANY of that information you're bringing into the discussion in the article that *I* read. Where did you dream all that stuff up from??
My husband and I were married in New York, too, and we would LOVE to have our marriage recognized by the State of Michigan. Does that mean someone is paying me to say that??
eJohn, why move from NY to Georgia? Must be the taxes. I read the article on woodtv.com . You should too. More info than Topix. Also, I did review your ID and your interest in responding to topix subjects does lean heavily on gay related subjects....... Heavily........

DNF

“Judge more and you love less”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH-Baltimore MD-S.Fla

#20 Jun 13, 2014
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>Elementary my dear eJohn, who I haven't seen on this forum before and must be trolling all the gay community related topics. These guys move here from NY get a house while one guy has inoperable brain cancer so. They have resources for an attorney and for bringing this suit on top of MEDICAL EXPENSES. Property taxes come along and paying the premium for the ACA since they have enough income. That means they don't get subsides. The obvious question is how do they do it? Outside resources from an activist group. If the partner wants rights there are legal documents that can give him authority to make decisions at the CLERKS office that are next to nothing in cost. A lot less hassle than clogging the court with something that has solutions.
Many of these suits are done pro bono.

Law firms flock to same-sex marriage proponents, while shunning conservatives
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